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Ironic. I bought an iphone last year to see what all the fuss was about as my last one was an iPhone 4. I lasted about 2 weeks before I got annoyed with all the limitations and returned it. People might give their right arm, but thats only because they don't know better.

Same thing happens to me every time i try an Android phone.
Although i usually last 6 months and try to break old habits first.

It's just a matter of preference.
 
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But, I thought all of the experts on the Internet forums said that Apple was doomed?!

Crackberries. Some parents were so addicted to their Blackberry phones, they'd ignore their own children. Look at how all of that was washed away. Hubris is all it takes to erode success. Everything Steve built the first time was nearly washed away too.
 
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Two days ago I posted on MR that Cook is the best CEO, and numerous people went bananas. I said it before, he's not a product visionary or genius, but he sent Apple into the stratosphere as a company.
He certainly is a great CEO like Nadella and Pichai, but I don’t think they are the ones who sent their companies into the stratosphere. They took the lead when the “travel to the stars” had already begun.
 
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Ironic. I bought an iphone last year to see what all the fuss was about as my last one was an iPhone 4. I lasted about 2 weeks before I got annoyed with all the limitations and returned it. People might give their right arm, but thats only because they don't know better.
If you think people buy iPhones only because they don't know better, you are either failing to understand the iPhone itself or why many people buy them, or both.
 
Check out what Charlie told Elon a few years ago. He’s not always right.

But I agree that Apple is well managed. The only problem is there does not appear to be passion anymore.
 
If I own 5.5% of a trillion dollar company, I’m going to tell you its the best thing since sliced bread even if we are killing baby pandas behind closed doors.
Apple treats their employees very well and there’s a bunch of professionalism in corporate as well as their stores. Amazon is ungodly disorganized. In their warehouse’s they make terrible decisions because the manager’s hide behind a computer all day long rather than physically looking at the scenario. Amazon also treats their employees like crap.
 
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Yes. He is an incredibly good CEO; he excels at managing as nobody else does.

Steve Jobs was a products guy. He was a visionary. And he cared deeply about the products. He made products that would make him happy, and he had an incredible sense of design and ergonomics. Steve Jobs was absolutely against a stylus for the iPad and a touch screen for the Mac; he had strong feelings about this and never let those features into the final product. He put Apple's products at his sky-high standards and made the company really innovative.

Tim Cook cares about the company. He does not care so much about each product. He wants to make products that will make customers happy. He is not really interested in the features of a given product. He does not care whether the iPad uses a stylus or not. What he wants is to see the wheels turning. And that is what a company is in the end.

Although Tim Cook is not an innovative genius, his great management skills compensate for that. As a result of good management, Apple has more resources to invest in things such as its own chip. Tim Cook's Apple may not come up with the next iPhone or iPad, but it can make a better iPhone or iPad.
Steve Jobs was not against a stylus, he was against an interface where you had to use a pen/stylus to navigate it. If Jobs were still around he would have hailed the Apple Pencil as the best thing since sliced bread and everyone would have ate it up. But that’s because there’s a cult around Steve Jobs. He could sell dog poop and someone would buy it.
 
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Ironic. I bought an iphone last year to see what all the fuss was about as my last one was an iPhone 4. I lasted about 2 weeks before I got annoyed with all the limitations and returned it. People might give their right arm, but thats only because they don't know better.
Having a preference has nothing to do with "knowing any better".
 
Apple's management is amazing, but I feel like that's also its biggest risk- what happens after Tim? What happens to the company if it doesn't have great management in the future?

Curious how Apple management will respond to this:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/02/18/apple-retail-stores-union-labor/
Apple made it after Steve, apple will make it after Tim.

As far as unionization apple might not have a choice, however it will turn those jobs into true dead end jobs.
 
What I like to say about Tim and his influence on Apple is this:

Using a Mac used to feel like you were floating above the crap pile that is using technology (my objective view is that technology doesn't really make our lives better, it makes people money).

Tim Cook realized they could make a lot more money if they brought the quality down to the point where the Mac experience SITS at the top of the crap pile.

So it stinks more, but it's still the best choice.

The result: Way more profit.

I accept this, not because I like it, but because I have no choice.
I've been a long time Mac user and had to move to PC, then around 10 years ago we bought all iMacs for our small business and never looked back. Apple used to be very innovative and they still are - but I recall reading an important part in Steve Job's book - he said that he learned a lot about timing - so he feel back into innovation. If we look back over 10 years, we can see better what apple did to improve technology for both our lives and work $$. It's taken tons of stress of my business as things just work all the time, so if I'm not stressed because of a computer, my life has improved, if I'm not stressed, more clients want our services which translates to more money.
Everyone's life is better on apple.
Just my two cents.
 
Apple treats their employees very well and there’s a bunch of professionalism in corporate as well as their stores. Amazon is ungodly disorganized. In their warehouse’s they make terrible decisions because the manager’s hide behind a computer all day long rather than physically looking at the scenario. Amazon also treats their employees like crap.


The sky is usually blue, water is wet, my wife nags me to death daily. All probably true but irrelevant to the point I was making. Good life advice: give credence to who is saying something before what it is they are saying.
 
Spot on!

And testament to that assesment are Apple's many millions of customers, many repeat, who willingly open their wallets and pay premium prices for Apple products and services, producing record revenues for the company. Year after year after year.

The market has spoken. Those who are unhappy with Apple's success will continue to whine in order to find a bit of joy in their lives to latch onto.
 
Steve Jobs was not against a stylus, he was against an interface where you had to use a pen/stylus to navigate it. If Jobs were still around he would have hailed the Apple Pencil as the best thing since sliced bread and everyone would have ate it up. But that’s because there’s a cult around Steve Jobs. He could sell dog poop and someone would buy it.

Ah the Apple Pencil; the last Apple product that actually “just works”…
 
Except for when it doesn't. Last year, I had to wipe my iPad Pro and set it up as a new device after my Apple Pencil just stopped connecting out of the blue.


Really? That’s odd. Except for when I broke the charging portion off the first gen model I’ve never had an issue with the product.
 
Really? That’s odd. Except for when I broke the charging portion off the first gen model I’ve never had an issue with the product.
Yup. Never had any issues with it before or since, but this was a pretty annoying one as issues go. Honestly, I’m not sure if it was a bug on the iPad side or the pencil side either (not that it really matters in practice).
 
Yup. Never had any issues with it before or since, but this was a pretty annoying one as issues go. Honestly, I’m not sure if it was a bug on the iPad side or the pencil side either (not that it really matters in practice).

Nothing pisses me off more then having to factory reset any of my devices. We had reset our fridge(yes, really) recently and it gave me a few moments of reflection on how far we have come.
 
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That's some bad English from Munger. "Ungodly" is an adjective. The phrase demands an adverb, which could be "ungodlily." The problem is that not all sources agree that there is such a word, and the second and more obvious problem is that it makes the phrase awkward.

Munger probably assumes that anything that ends with "ly" is an adverb, which is not true. He is a billionaire, so maybe he can just say it any way he wants. I don't have to like it though. That said, I have seen this quote on a number of articles now, not written by billionaires, and none of them has the presence of mind to [sic] him.

If I am wrong, perhaps an English expert here can correct me.
think different
 
98 year old Charlie Munger has some "interesting" views on a number of issues.

- it is perfectly ok to build student dormitories in which none of the rooms have a window
- he compares bitcoin to a venereal disease
- stated that the gentleman in charge of a certain country when some students had unfortunate encounters with tanks was one of the world's greatest leaders

Probably best if Charlie moves into a "facility". Windowless to keep him happy...
I take it you disagree with these things? How about whether Apple is well managed, which is actually the point of this article? Just so you know, and I know it is difficult for people to appreciate in this day and age, but attacking the man does not undermine the argument.

Edit:typo
 
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What I like to say about Tim and his influence on Apple is this:

Using a Mac used to feel like you were floating above the crap pile that is using technology (my objective view is that technology doesn't really make our lives better, it makes people money).

Tim Cook realized they could make a lot more money if they brought the quality down to the point where the Mac experience SITS at the top of the crap pile.

So it stinks more, but it's still the best choice.

The result: Way more profit.

I accept this, not because I like it, but because I have no choice.
Going out on a limb here. You probably don’t own a MacBookPro with M1 pro or max. Because everything about the machine is as Apple used to be. And then some.
 
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