10.8.3 did fix bugs, and some notable ones. If your computer is hanging once a week, you are having a different problem that an OS update may not solve; it's not normal operation.
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10.8.3 did fix bugs, and some notable ones. If your computer is hanging once a week, you are having a different problem that an OS update may not solve; it's not normal operation.
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Why we have to go back to PC? Why can't OS X be like what it used to be in past? Stable, reliable and intuitive to use!
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Yeah it did fix some bugs and it's a lot better to use compared to 10.8.2. However, the system hanging thing still remains. I have made clean installation of 10.8.3 last week, spoke with an Apple expert (who doesn't seem to have any idea on how to fix this problem). Maybe you're right that it's not a normal operation, but it's very annoying and I don't know how should I fix this..
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So you're saying no rumour website article writer, no government member, no member of the press, no analyst of any kind, no one from gizmodo etc etc can ever be an Appleseed member. Cause they all leak information/rumours regularly.
And most of them mistakenly claim their leaked rumours are fact too. But that's a total other issue and a little off topic.
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Better then gamma females. If you have to ask what the alpha is, then you don't get it. (hint, it's not human).
This is indeed true. For me 10.8, .1, .2 and .3 has been rock solid. Each release over a months uptime unless some software demands a reboot. If it's hard locking then there's going to be a hardware issue causing it.
But saying that, I will never know ones computers habits. Don't know if they install everything and whatnot or always tinkering.
Checked to see if it's your hard drive? hard locks can usually be a slow death to the drive. I had one on a PC and the SMART status wasn't picking it up, even though it's a motherboard from last year. Only the Western Digital utility was finding failed tests and lots of unreadable and retiring blocks.
Sound advice. This was happening to me. Disk Utility found nothing but if you download SMART Utility for Mac (google it) it'll soon tell you if your drive is failing.
One new HD later and OS X is as good as ever
what version imac you have? I have the 2.7 Quad core from later 2011 and since i upgraded to X.8.3 only slow start up and shut down has been the very first one. I let Spotlight finish indexing before doing anything else - Once that was done the shut down and start ups were on par with X.7.5 maybe even a little faster in the start up and shut down. Did you ever have OS X.6 on the machine? I am wondering if those who had X.6 are the ones having all the issues. my iMac came shipped with X.7 so no issues as i never installed any PPC software (you could under X.6) - I think removing all software that is not compatible saves alot of headaches in the end. I have a 2007 MBP that i got with X.6 but immediately wiped the drive and did a clean install of X.7 and never had a single issue. I am thinking it is best to do a clean install from X.6 to X.7. Just wish they would fix the wifi issues with the 2007 2008 MBPs then i would update that too.
Sound advice. This was happening to me. Disk Utility found nothing but if you download SMART Utility for Mac (google it) it'll soon tell you if your drive is failing.
One new HD later and OS X is as good as ever
Well I just installed SMART utility for Mac on my rMBP and it says that my Macintosh HD (SSD) has passed the test. So it doesn't look that the SSD is failing. I have been told by the Apple technical advisor to take it to a Apple authorised service provider and he says either SSD or the logic board might have some problems. Anyway, this is the first time I'm having so much trouble with a MBP and even after 4 months of purchasing, I'm yet to start enjoying it
I'd take it in right away because the more you get problems with it the more you'll get pissed with it and ruin your experience. Because honestly, 10.8 is solid for stability but you're having hardware problems thats killing your whole view and experience on it.
For all you know there could be an intermittent sata port problem on the logic board. But you'll never know for sure until you take it in. It's not doing you any good the longer you put up with it.
For all you know there could be an intermittent sata port problem on the logic board. But you'll never know for sure until you take it in. It's not doing you any good the longer you put up with it.
update basic functions?
Copy Paste has not been updated since OS *
Quick time has no audio record function
Mail has lost reject function
I would like to see this paid attention to
Copy Paste has not been updated since OS *
Quick time has no audio record function
Mail has lost reject function
I would like to see this paid attention to
I've had several bug reports marked "Fixed in 10.8, no fix for 10.7". And also "will be fixed in 10.9, no fix for 10.8".
So, it's safe to assume that 10.7.5 was the last version of Lion. Will 10.8.4 be the last version of Mountain Lion?
I guess that means half the number of bug fixes before you have to buy the new OS version to get your bugs fixed. Oh, and you might need new hardware for that.
QuickTime Player has "New Audio Recording" in the File menu.
Don't know what you mean about "reject" function in Mail.
So, it's safe to assume that 10.7.5 was the last version of Lion. Will 10.8.4 be the last version of Mountain Lion?
I guess that means half the number of bug fixes before you have to buy the new OS version to get your bugs fixed. Oh, and you might need new hardware for that.
What needs updating about Copy and Paste? Rest assured that if Apple did completely revise it, there would be a million threads about "how to get the old Copy/Paste back".
QuickTime Player has "New Audio Recording" in the File menu.
Don't know what you mean about "reject" function in Mail.
Hope to finally see it on my 3k euros 15" rMBP. I think it should shutdown as fast as SL was on my 5.400rpm - 2010 13 mbp (1-2 seconds).
10.8.3 for me didn't solve that issue (still 15/20 secs to shutdown/reboot).
Bye,
Andrea
Safari seems to crash every time there are 8 or more tabs open.
Last time I checked the call trace, it was something in the javascript interpreter.
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You mean "bounce"?
I missed bounce too, but apparently that simply contributes to mail server congestion.
It makes things worse, overall, than simply ignoring spam.
Last time I checked the call trace, it was something in the javascript interpreter.
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You mean "bounce"?
I missed bounce too, but apparently that simply contributes to mail server congestion.
It makes things worse, overall, than simply ignoring spam.
Why update copy and paste? It works!
Audio recording can be done with Garageband (comes free with every single mac since ages ago)
The bounce on mail was useful, and it would be nice to see it return, but it isn't on my priority list.
Hope to finally see it on my 3k euros 15" rMBP. I think it should shutdown as fast as SL was on my 5.400rpm - 2010 13 mbp (1-2 seconds).
10.8.3 for me didn't solve that issue (still 15/20 secs to shutdown/reboot).
Bye,
Andrea
Queue all the "why shut down at all?" responses in 3, 2, 1....
And I agree, it's an issue.
I have 21.5 inch Mid-2011, 2.7 GHz Intel Core i5 and it has a pretty slow start up time but shutting down has been fixed on my end after x.8.3 update.
Is there some master list of all the bugs that will be fixed in 10.8 and 10.9? That would be rather useful to have.
For me, Mountain Lion's slow shutdowns were fixed when I got rid of Steermouse in favor of Logitech's own gaming software.
Nobody knows yet. Since 10.9 hasn't even had a beta released yet, it's months from release. With that kind of a window, it's still possible that we see .5 or even higher.
When I run Apple Hardware Test, it finds no problems with my rMBP, so I don't understand what is causing system hangs on my rMBP. Do you think there could still be a problem even if Apple Hardware Test says no trouble found?
Queue all the "why shut down at all?" responses in 3, 2, 1....
And I agree, it's an issue.
I shutdown at all in order not to drain my battery leaving my mac in sleep when i carry it with me.. Yes I know that I could leave it in sleep which is faster but I prefer shutting down my machine in order not to forgot it in sleep mode.
And during the night I prefer to shutdown at all leaving it not attached to power chord.
But I would like to know why an old O.S. like SL had so brilliant shutdown performances and ML not... Was it wrong?
Maybe the right thing is now with 20 seconds to wait, ok Bye,
Andrea
Someone correct me if I'm wrong (I know most people here don't need an invitation ;-)), but I was under the impression that OS X runs a number of daily maintenance scripts at night while a Mac is connected to power, even while sleeping, similar to how iCloud works for iDevices.
I usually leave my iMac on until it starts behaving weirdly, which isn't very often and my MacBooks I plug in at night and close the lid. I was assuming that this was allowing them to run the necessary maintenance scripts to keep things healthy. Usually don't have any problems, but maybe it's a placebo effect.
I would still take it to a Apple Repair center if I was you. It is possible that you have a bad machine if you are seeing these problems.
Hugh