Brilliant idea. We definitely shouldn’t tell the people who put us into this or using it as an excuse. Typical tired old attitude of blame avoidance and expectation of having something handed to them.Tell that to China!
Brilliant idea. We definitely shouldn’t tell the people who put us into this or using it as an excuse. Typical tired old attitude of blame avoidance and expectation of having something handed to them.Tell that to China!
This is true of most US and European manufacturing. The short term pros outweighed the long term cons of having all your manufacturing in a totalitarian country but now the cons are coming. Everywhere has its problems but it's past time to divest from China and their problems. Easier said than done....Apple is terribly exposed to manufacturing disruptions in China. Covid is the tip of the iceberg. Wait for the coming crisis and possibly war over Taiwan. One of Tim's biggest mistakes was allowing the China exposure to worsen. He does not have much of a contingency plan. In the meantime, President Xi can virtually shut Apple down tomorrow if he wishes.
Thanks for your reply. But actually, in the latest reporting year, less than 20% of US manufactured imports came from China. For Apple, that number is much, much higher. And hence it's lion sized problem.This is true of most US and European manufacturing. The short term pros outweighed the long term cons of having all your manufacturing in a totalitarian country but now the cons are coming. Everywhere has its problems but it's past time to divest from China and their problems. Easier said than done....
And China trying CV19 lockdowns after so much data shows the futility and damage they did to the countries who engaged in them. Devastating impacts on education and economy with unproven benefit on saving lives....I dont understand what data they are relying on that motivates a failed intervention.
You do realize building the infrastructure and supply chain as well build factories, hire and train a force from scratch to complete with decades of tech building ecosystems in China will not happen as 3 years or 5 for that matter. The cost to sever China completely would extremely to consumers. You think inflation is high now. Remember, Foxcon and others manufacture for Samsung and othersThis wouldn’t have been a problem if Apple had not solely relied on China. Apple had 3 years to move its assembly plant to India or other counties such as Vietnam But they didn’t take advantage of it back then. Now the demand is high and the supply is low. By the time Apple catches up with the supply. Rest assured, People will be waiting for the iPhone SE 2023 or iPhone 15 model.
So happy I Pre-ordered my iPhone 14 Pro Max. Loving it!!!
This year however is a little different. The news reported that workers at Foxccon were walking out because of being locked down in their dorms because of a COVID outbreak. Not good. Not good. Get ready for a market tear on AAPL tomorrow.
Might as well wait for the USB-C iPhone 15? 🤥🤥MID DECEMBER?????
wait… (checks calendar)…
Oh, that’s only six weeks away. That’s not too bad 🤷♂️
Still though.. yikes. 😬
One not all that minor point about China, for those being critical. And I know ppl will doubt the statistics (tho funny, china hawks were terrified of Chinese gov GDP data as recently as 5 years ago), but the Chinese death rates from covid are a tiny fraction of the US, and significantly better than European figures, too. Now, I think every country gets to decide this for themselves. But the Chinese seem to value life more than phones. Maybe it's something to think about?
Tim Cook and all the other smart people at Apple should have seen this coming with the rise of Xi.How? The statement said strong demand, which means a lot of people still want to buy iPhones despite the delays.
I mean remember how the MacBook Pros took months to ship, yet it didn’t faze the Apple buyers.
I had thought supply was going to be a big problem for me since I didn't order the 14 Pro Max until October 12, but I got it last week. IOW, I got it about three weeks after ordering which not bad at all considering I ordered almost 4 weeks after everyone else here.Disagree… supplies of the Pro models are abnormally constrained this year. I checked Apple Store stock out of curiosity a few hours ago, and there wasn’t a Pro Max model available within 4 hours of me in any direction.
The Zero COVID policy is definitely keeping people alive in China.And China trying CV19 lockdowns after so much data shows the futility and damage they did to the countries who engaged in them. Devastating impacts on education and economy with unproven benefit on saving lives....I dont understand what data they are relying on that motivates a failed intervention.Worldwide COVID deaths are at ~3.3 Million.
Thanks for the laugh, The west are a bunch of cheap bastards and killed domestic manufacturing with their wallets and voting for politicians who told them what they want to hear.Made in China is over.
I don't want to veer too far off into politics, etc. but most believe Covid infection rates and deaths are vastly underreported in China. However, on the flip side, China has significantly higher vaccination rates than in the US. US vaccination rates aren't as good as some might believe. For example, I live in Canada and according to Johns Hopkins' data, 89% of the population in Canada has had at least one dose, whereas it's 81% in the US. In contrast, it's higher in China than both our countries, at 93%. Some may rightly argue that the Chinese vaccines are less effective, but a 93% vaccination rate with a less effective vaccine is still a significant benefit.The Zero COVID policy is definitely keeping people alive in China.
Worldwide COVID deaths are at ~3.3 Million but China COVID deaths are at ~5.2 Thousand.
China has the largest population living in a single country by far at ~1.4 Billion, they are all unvaccinated and nearly all unexposed. Compare that with a USA population of ~335 Million, all who are vaccinated and/or have been exposed, yet well over 1 million COVID deaths have occurred here.
I don’t believe China has the resources to let COVID run wild there. The death toll would overwhelm them in weeks and create unbearable issues for the current leadership.
China is also unwilling to purchase vaccines from outside their borders, and the ones they have don’t work, at least so far...
Yet Zero COVID absolutely has many negative impacts and costs. However it’s clear China’s leadership is not changing its mind on Zero COVID anytime soon.
Not yet, but reliable manufacturing in China seems to be over. Now, Apple just needs to figure out how to move enough of their eggs out of China’s basket before something even bigger occurs there that disrupts their production.Made in China is over.
Apple should’ve kept some production in the USA. Tim Cook was being too greedy.This wouldn’t have been a problem if Apple had not solely relied on China. Apple had 3 years to move its assembly plant to India or other counties such as Vietnam But they didn’t take advantage of it back then. Now the demand is high and the supply is low. By the time Apple catches up with the supply. Rest assured, People will be waiting for the iPhone SE 2023 or iPhone 15 model.
So happy I Pre-ordered my iPhone 14 Pro Max. Loving it!!!