Apple Jailbreak Kill Switch / Switch to Android?

Discussion in 'Jailbreaks and iOS Hacks' started by smacman, Aug 22, 2010.

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If I can't jailbreak anymore my next phone would be an Android phone.

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Maybe

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    17.6%
  1. smacman macrumors 6502

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    #1
    If Apple is successful with their endeavors to detect jailbroken phones and shut them down, would you consider switching to an Android handset for your next smartphone?
     
  2. LiveFreeDie macrumors regular

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    Gah, this is stupid. It sucks because I just recently jb my 3GS and i'm loving it. Only now to find out Apple is trying to get a patent to brick jailbroken iPhones.

    I just wonder how long it will take them to get approved or denied on this matter?
     
  3. maflynn Moderator

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    I think you should look at a phone that meets your needs, and if the iPhone doesn't, look to see if android does.

    by the way, Motorola already employs this with the DX/D2 phones, so going there won't help you any. In fact Motorola not only has a kill switch but encrypts the bootloader so you have little chance of loading any custom roms.
     
  4. Dwalls90 macrumors 601

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    If apple finds a way to permanently disable jail-breaking, then I will buy an android phone.
     
  5. fuzion11 macrumors 65816

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    but wouldn't the "disable Apple kill switch" in SBSettings combat this??
     
  6. bigjnyc macrumors 601

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    Jailbreaking is great and I love everything it adds to my iphone, that being said though I like the plain vanilla iphone over any other phone so I would definitely stick with a regular iphone even if I couldn't jailbreak.
     
  7. TMar macrumors 68000

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    You and everyone else are reading way to much into then what it really is. Apple will never implement it. It is not a direct target to JB devices. Everything points to it being completely software base, so it would be patchable.
     
  8. sidewinder macrumors 68020

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    In the USA anyway, it's not illegal to Jailbreak your iPhone. So Apple could NEVER legally detect and shutdown an iPhone that had been Jailbreaked.

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  9. BergerFan macrumors 68020

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    For me, jailbreaking has always been a bonus. I've never got an iPhone because it could be jailbroken.
     
  10. TMar macrumors 68000

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    This isn't actually correct. The act of JB is not illegal nor is the device. Apple can patch security holes anytime they feel like it by any means.
     
  11. sjinsjca macrumors 68000

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    Don't believe everything you read. Seems to me this patent application has more to do with (automatically?) bricking a stolen or tampered-with phone. Say you're a titan of industry (or a big-name celebrity) and there's lots of information and contacts on your phone. It would be a major selling point when you're shopping for a phone if one had the capability of detecting unauthorized usage, including attempts by a thief to hack into your phone via the USB port. Trust me, there are plenty of corporate types who will swoon at the thought of such a feature. The Mobile Me remote-wipe feature is great but thieves and spies are learning to quickly put phones in Airplane Mode to block it.

    As for me, the iPhone 4 (and the 3GS running iOS 4) addresses the reasons I jailbroke my previous 3G: backgrounding and tethering, mostly. I do miss the cable-free convenience of MyWi but "official" tethering on AT&T is inexpensive and doesn't suck my battery dead the way MyWi did. All in all, I feel no compulsion to jailbreak this new phone.
     
  12. dhlizard macrumors G4

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    Apple is never gonna restrict jailbroken phones in this manner. This whole thing is about a patent application filed a year and a half ago.
     
  13. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    Why? Every platform has a kill switch.
     
  14. chargit macrumors 6502a

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    this is such a joke! this will never fly cause what they are saying your wife, kid, friend, could not use the phone and you couldnt even sell it. this is only about jailbreaking cause they are losing revenue from the app store. and now with the new law it will never happen so dont worry.
     
  15. thelatinist macrumors 603

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    It'd just be one more thing to patch during the jailbreak process. Might slow the Dev Team down a day or two at most. Don't worry.
     
  16. Sleazy E macrumors 65816

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    stop worrying about things that are not going to happen :p
     
  17. sidewinder macrumors 68020

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    Read what was written. Yes, Apple can patch all the security holes they want. But they can't shutdown your iPhone because it is Jailbreaked.

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  18. Warbrain macrumors 603

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    This.

    It's just like when Apple used Where To in one application. It doesn't mean anything.
     
  19. thelatinist macrumors 603

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    Why couldn't they? The DMCA exception only protects you from prosecution for jailbreaking, it doesn't give you an affirmative right to jailbreak, nor does it protect you from actions by a private individual or corporate entity. Jailbreaking still violates your license; at most they would have to add a provision to the license authorizing them to do this and which you would have to agree to in order to use the software.
     
  20. sidewinder macrumors 68020

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    Read the decision. It specifically makes it lawful to circumvent controls designed to block jailbreaking. It would be unlawful for Apple to deactivate your iPhone for Jailbreaking.

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  21. sidewinder macrumors 68020

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    Also, Apple cannot add verbiage to the contract to circumvent this ruling. Nor can they add provisions that allow them to deactivate your phone.

    They can claim it violates the iPhone's warranty because it modifies code.

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  22. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    Uh, there are no controls to prevent jailbreaking. Jailbreaking only occurs because there are exploits found and manipulated. Apple has every right (and frankly a duty) to patch up holes. They can't force you to apply the patch, but they are under no pressure to keep them open.

    This is from someone who's been jailbreaking since the slightly more simple 78 command line jailbreak.
     
  23. fsck-y dingo macrumors 65816

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    Well, I'm not really worried about this patent application. If you view the actual PDF it shows the submit date as February 19th, 2009. It's most likely another one of the many patents filed by Apple that never go past submission.

    Even if their intention was to stop jailbraking the federal ruling to allow it has been past since this was submitted. They don't have to like it but I'm pretty sure the most they can do is attempt to patch vulnerabilities and void your warranty.
     
  24. sidewinder macrumors 68020

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    Sure there are. Apple wants the phone locked up tight so end users cannot do what Jailbreaking allows. The phone is not locked up by accident.....

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  25. Worf macrumors regular

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    Jailbreaking has been a plus for me too. I could live without it again. Also with new iOS iteration i'll hopefully have less and less reason to jailbreak. So no i would not switch to Android and take my chances at an upgrade once every 6 months if i'm lucky.
     

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