I'm not worried about them making a cloud OS for Mac OS X, but I am worried they may try to make more of Mac OS X's features be cloud focused. Maybe I'm crazy but I don't want my iTunes on the cloud, and I don't really want much else of mine tied to the cloud either.
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Apple Job Posting Suggests 'Revolutionary' New Mac OS X Feature
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I'm not worried about them making a cloud OS for Mac OS X, but I am worried they may try to make more of Mac OS X's features be cloud focused. Maybe I'm crazy but I don't want my iTunes on the cloud, and I don't really want much else of mine tied to the cloud either.
Thanks. I guess we'll find out more as things progress. I am very excited about 10.7. People on here seem to lack logic often. There is a lot of wild speculation with little basis a lot of times by posters!
I think if people would watch Steve Jobs more closely and learn to read him, even though he keeps his mouth shut about the future, he still reveals quite a bit between the lines if you know how to understand him! Take that plus the other pieces and rumors and it becomes a lot more clear. I have about a 90% accuracy rate with my Apple predictions because of that!
Since Cut & Paste has already been mentioned. How about "Print Selection"?
Mac OS is missing so many features that Windows have had for years and years I wonder what they can create that is truly "Revolutionary".
Sounds more like a ploy to me from keeping Mac users from jumping ship to Windows 7
please no one shoot me, but an address-bar option on the finder would be nice.
and not one like Win 7 or Vista's, just simple like XP's or evey web browser has
Here are some ideas to get the ball rolling:
Plan9 Filesystem (Protocol based similar to TCP/IP)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9P
DragonFly BSD (Clustering capabilities)
http://www.dragonflybsd.org/
lustreFS (distributed filesystem)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lustre_(file_system)
New FreeBSD routing architecture
http://www.internetnews.com/dev-new...reeBSD-8-Getting-New-Routing-Architecture.htm
FreeBSD Jails
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/jails.html
FreeBSD Capsicum
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/research/security/capsicum/
Sun Grid Engine
http://gridengine.sunsource.net/
My guess is that Apple be working on adding distributed/clustering capabilities along with security enhancements for sand boxing and resource management directly into the kernel. Maybe even the native P2P/Torrent capabilities software updates capabilities that were rumored a while back along with virtualization via Jails or another mechanism.
I would love to see a new feature that allows multiple user to remotely login with a GUI. A new SystemUI server would be needed, possibly an advanced version of X11 with Aqua.
It would also be nice if Apple would unite their development platform wit JIT using LLVM. I want to uses the Cocoa frame work to target desktop, web and mobile platforms similar to .Net. These look promising:
Bombax (obj c server side)
http://www.bombaxtic.com/
Frothkit
http://code.google.com/p/frothkit/
WebObjects Clone
http://wiki.gnustep.org/index.php/GNUstepWeb
Titanium
http://www.appcelerator.com/products/titanium-cross-platform-application-development/
I'd love to hear some thoughts/comments.
thx!
Plan9 Filesystem (Protocol based similar to TCP/IP)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9P
DragonFly BSD (Clustering capabilities)
http://www.dragonflybsd.org/
lustreFS (distributed filesystem)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lustre_(file_system)
New FreeBSD routing architecture
http://www.internetnews.com/dev-new...reeBSD-8-Getting-New-Routing-Architecture.htm
FreeBSD Jails
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/jails.html
FreeBSD Capsicum
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/research/security/capsicum/
Sun Grid Engine
http://gridengine.sunsource.net/
My guess is that Apple be working on adding distributed/clustering capabilities along with security enhancements for sand boxing and resource management directly into the kernel. Maybe even the native P2P/Torrent capabilities software updates capabilities that were rumored a while back along with virtualization via Jails or another mechanism.
I would love to see a new feature that allows multiple user to remotely login with a GUI. A new SystemUI server would be needed, possibly an advanced version of X11 with Aqua.
It would also be nice if Apple would unite their development platform wit JIT using LLVM. I want to uses the Cocoa frame work to target desktop, web and mobile platforms similar to .Net. These look promising:
Bombax (obj c server side)
http://www.bombaxtic.com/
Frothkit
http://code.google.com/p/frothkit/
WebObjects Clone
http://wiki.gnustep.org/index.php/GNUstepWeb
Titanium
http://www.appcelerator.com/products/titanium-cross-platform-application-development/
I'd love to hear some thoughts/comments.
thx!
AppleInsider points to a new Apple job listing that appeared on Monday looking for a software engineer to work on a "revolutionary" new Mac OS X feature.While Apple is always very careful to not give away too much information about its product development plans in its job posting and this latest one is sufficiently vague that it is impossible to glean any real details on the new feature from it, the new listing does carry a sense of enthusiasm and intrigue not often found in Apple's job postings.About the only hint of the new feature's focus comes from Apple's qualification preferences seeking engineers experienced in HTTP and related protocols, with suggestions of a large-scale Internet-focused perspective.
Evidence of Apple's work on Mac OS X 10.7 first appeared late last year, with increasing evidence of the OS being used on Apple's campus showing up in web logs beginning in January of this year. Hopes for a developer preview at this year's Worldwide Developers Conference were dashed, however, with the event being primarily focused on the iOS platform amid claims that Apple had diverted resources from the Mac OS X in order to focus on iOS 4 development.
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Sure there is! Its dog slowwwwwww.... Doesn't have Jails built in and doesn't scale to high. I would love to see Apple adopt the FreeBSD kernel or perhaps OpenSolaris.
L4 is a modern faster version of ideas from mach without the performance hit:
http://ertos.nicta.com.au/software/darbat/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L4_microkernel_family
DragonFlyBSD is also interesting with clustering built in:
http://www.dragonflybsd.org/
Don't close your mind to ditching XNU/Mach it isn't perfect!
L4 is a modern faster version of ideas from mach without the performance hit:
http://ertos.nicta.com.au/software/darbat/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L4_microkernel_family
DragonFlyBSD is also interesting with clustering built in:
http://www.dragonflybsd.org/
Don't close your mind to ditching XNU/Mach it isn't perfect!
No, it is the name. OS X, that's the name and branding, and has been for a decade now. 10.4, 10.5, 10.6 etc. are the version numbers.
--Eric
They used OS before OS X with OS 8 and OS 9. There's more than likely going to be an OS 11 in the future.
One of the big problems with cross-OS compatibility is actually just skin deep: it's not that hard to make a cross-platform command-line app, but add a GUI and sunddenly you've wrapped yourself in that toolkit's particular way of thinking about UIs, including everything from individual widgets to the way events are handled. Further, every OS has different "feels" for what's right (hence, Mac users' abilities to sniff out badly ported apps).
There already is something that lets you do more or less this, and it's called Java. There's also Qt and wxWidgets (both toolkits, not programming langauges in themselves), among others. IMHO Qt tends to produce the best apps of the three, but good Java apps aren't bad, either. (Java's built-in UI is Swing, which more or less skins the widgets according to the OS or theme of choice, but IBM also makes SWT, which wraps around underlying native widgets.) wxWidgets will get you something like Audacity, which I think works well on Windows and maybe OS 9 ... but not so much on OS X. Unless you really wany to write a UI for every platform, however, you really need a toolkit to accomplish this. (Netscape 4 did the former; Netscape 6, based on Mozilla which eventually gave rise to Firefox, wrote a UI language called XUL to be able to do the latter.)
Again, it's hard to make an app that behaves acceptably across platforms--you can normally tell, especially on the Mac where users are very picky about GUIs. And this is ignoring other things like arbitrary OS features and compiling across different CPUs (although for OS X and Windows nowadays you can pretty much assume x86 or x64), an issue OS X itself experienced with the recent Intel transition. In fact OS X experienced something like to the other issue, too, with the OS 9 to OS X transition, except they gave you Carbon to help out. (And you can STILL smell a bad Carbon app, like the old AIM, when you see it.
)Have you used Mac OS X? In Finder, you just click Go > Connect to Server (⌘K) and type in ftp://site and you have FTP access to that site just like it was part of your own file system.
It's also UNIX, so you have the FTP command.
Spotlight search across all macs in existence.
The Apple Hive Mind. Why use your documents when you can use your neighbors?
But seriously, I hope it has to do with their acquisition of Siri. Having somethings like Jarvis from Iron Man would be pretty awesome (Of course, without the awesome 3d displays and controls.) Though the experience with HTTP part seems to suggest that it probably won't be this, unless they need someone to work on some sort of search mechanism for it.
The Apple Hive Mind. Why use your documents when you can use your neighbors?
But seriously, I hope it has to do with their acquisition of Siri. Having somethings like Jarvis from Iron Man would be pretty awesome (Of course, without the awesome 3d displays and controls.) Though the experience with HTTP part seems to suggest that it probably won't be this, unless they need someone to work on some sort of search mechanism for it.
A nice thing would be if you were using your ipad/iphone with safari or mail etc and you moved onto your mac the same page or window would be displayed on your mac ready for you to continue.
I know it wouldn't apply to games etc but could be done with Apple apps.
I know it wouldn't apply to games etc but could be done with Apple apps.
I never said it was perfect, nor did I say there weren't better technologies out there. I'm not close minded.
The kernel offers acceptable performance, there are other areas where the same/less effort would improve Mac OS X before Apple looks at the kernel.
If Apple believes that grossly compressed 720p is "HD", and nobodly wants Blu-ray Discs - do you really thing "not gonna happen"?
The Lord God Jobs has 24 Mbps at his home in Palo Alto, so he doesn't care about you.
Mark my words:
"Apple is not going to release a multi-touch OS X. We won't have a iMac or Cinema Display with touch support. Ever."
Apple, is, going to change the user input for the next iteration of the OS. Instead of Keyboard/Mouse, its going to be Keyboard/Touchpad. The touchpad of the current MBPs supports multi-touch and the newly released touchpad also supports multi-touch. This is going to provide 100% of the OS XI(?) users with their new input, using their current machines.
After the release of the new OS, Apple is going to release a new multi-touch touchpad, with the size of a full keyboard which will be used as both as keyboard and let us perform gestures with the two hands at the same time. Using all our 10 fingers.
Indeed, revolutionary and magical.
"Apple is not going to release a multi-touch OS X. We won't have a iMac or Cinema Display with touch support. Ever."
Apple, is, going to change the user input for the next iteration of the OS. Instead of Keyboard/Mouse, its going to be Keyboard/Touchpad. The touchpad of the current MBPs supports multi-touch and the newly released touchpad also supports multi-touch. This is going to provide 100% of the OS XI(?) users with their new input, using their current machines.
After the release of the new OS, Apple is going to release a new multi-touch touchpad, with the size of a full keyboard which will be used as both as keyboard and let us perform gestures with the two hands at the same time. Using all our 10 fingers.
Indeed, revolutionary and magical.
Magical
Maybe something a la "Magic Mirror"
...or would a "Magic Mirror" be the 27" glossy display?
Maybe something a la "Magic Mirror"
...or would a "Magic Mirror" be the 27" glossy display?
I agree, but on a related note, is there an app that lets you make your own gestures? I would like one where you place your fingers apart and scale down like an isosceles triangle to minimize a window.
That's my Apple!
Apple is my favourite company by a long shot and they just keep producing. You can say what you want about the Mac Pro case, but 7 years of being a sitting duck and no PC case maker can come close. The new iMacs are awesome. Their laptops are the best. OSX is still my favourite OS (and I've used the others, thanks). The iPhone is awesome. iPods are still a class ahead.
I don't just follow blindly because when my favourite companies stop producing, they fall out of favour with me. I used to love Sony, but they stopped making interesting stuff. Sony makes an awful MP3 player that rolls on the floor and no one says a word. Exploding batteries? Dell makes crap MP3 players and not a peep. Microsoft got relatively no flak for almost every XBOX 360 getting a red ring of death compared the the iPhone problem (fixed with a free case). The Kin? Google Buzz? Google Wave?
All the uproar about Apple using marketing speak really annoys me. Just because all the other tech companies are ****** at marketing, it doesn't mean Apple has to stop using emotion-getting words. No one complained when McDonald's asked if we "believe in magic", and I didn't hear a peep from anyone when Coca-Cola launched "the happiness factory" campaign. Dove got praise for their "Real Beauty" campaign (they sell soap and makeup). How is Apple's "Revolutionary" any more hokey than Google's "Don't be Evil"?
Maybe Apple should start using "smart" product names like IPX400-M5 or A520. There are several types of intelligences and the mob on the internet seems to be lacking most of them.
I, for one, like that there are still pre-internet companies who remember how to market themselves.
Apple is my favourite company by a long shot and they just keep producing. You can say what you want about the Mac Pro case, but 7 years of being a sitting duck and no PC case maker can come close. The new iMacs are awesome. Their laptops are the best. OSX is still my favourite OS (and I've used the others, thanks). The iPhone is awesome. iPods are still a class ahead.
I don't just follow blindly because when my favourite companies stop producing, they fall out of favour with me. I used to love Sony, but they stopped making interesting stuff. Sony makes an awful MP3 player that rolls on the floor and no one says a word. Exploding batteries? Dell makes crap MP3 players and not a peep. Microsoft got relatively no flak for almost every XBOX 360 getting a red ring of death compared the the iPhone problem (fixed with a free case). The Kin? Google Buzz? Google Wave?
All the uproar about Apple using marketing speak really annoys me. Just because all the other tech companies are ****** at marketing, it doesn't mean Apple has to stop using emotion-getting words. No one complained when McDonald's asked if we "believe in magic", and I didn't hear a peep from anyone when Coca-Cola launched "the happiness factory" campaign. Dove got praise for their "Real Beauty" campaign (they sell soap and makeup). How is Apple's "Revolutionary" any more hokey than Google's "Don't be Evil"?
Maybe Apple should start using "smart" product names like IPX400-M5 or A520. There are several types of intelligences and the mob on the internet seems to be lacking most of them.
I, for one, like that there are still pre-internet companies who remember how to market themselves.
Native Blu-Ray movie playback in OSX!
iOS device syncing over wifi!
Pageup/pagedown key support!
Maximize button on windows!
Application uninstaller!
Built-in FTP!
my wishlist.. in order..
Maximize button... I suppose the green button doesn't truly maximize, so you've got a point.
Page up page down support is already in there... at least it is in Safari and iPhoto and Word. what do you want it to do?
It also already has a built in FTP. ( albeit a shoddy one ) What do you want?
Application uninstaller... what's that? Just drag the app to the trash.
The 10 GUI concept is nice, but it might not consider very well users with disabilities, and 
has been pretty good on this.
The cloud thing is nice when it is free always available and secure, so you don't loose anything and get a lot. Sad and doomed to fail if it is ad based, as by what that patent shows. I hope it is not, it might be working for the mobile things that many are used to, and that we already have to pay to use them, the iPhone/iPad wireless data service but for a professional work/personal activity it needs to be seamless, and when needed fully operational when not connected.
The cloud thing has some limitation when you travel out of the country or out of the grid. Even nowadays many flights have an internet connection and most of the times you can find a connection it is still limited and will cost you extra to use it.
If they find a way to keep your stuff safely and perfectly available for you anywhere anytime, then the cloud will really work.
A much tighter security for whatever cloud thing they do, will be a key element in whatever "magical, revolutionary, whatever new word they use" next OS releases.
I just hope that it is released sooner than what it took them to release the leopards.
They know how to make things change to the right path.
If you had been using stuff for a while, you had seeing the different leaps made from the Apple II to Mac OS, multifinder, OS Xs, Leopards plus all the things they had done in parallel Newton OS, iPod, iPhone OS, iOS 4, you know what I mean.
has been pretty good on this.The cloud thing is nice when it is free always available and secure, so you don't loose anything and get a lot. Sad and doomed to fail if it is ad based, as by what that patent shows. I hope it is not, it might be working for the mobile things that many are used to, and that we already have to pay to use them, the iPhone/iPad wireless data service but for a professional work/personal activity it needs to be seamless, and when needed fully operational when not connected.
The cloud thing has some limitation when you travel out of the country or out of the grid. Even nowadays many flights have an internet connection and most of the times you can find a connection it is still limited and will cost you extra to use it.
If they find a way to keep your stuff safely and perfectly available for you anywhere anytime, then the cloud will really work.
A much tighter security for whatever cloud thing they do, will be a key element in whatever "magical, revolutionary, whatever new word they use" next OS
releases.I just hope that it is released sooner than what it took them to release the leopards.
They know how to make things change to the right path.
If you had been using
stuff for a while, you had seeing the different leaps made from the Apple II to Mac OS, multifinder, OS Xs, Leopards plus all the things they had done in parallel Newton OS, iPod, iPhone OS, iOS 4, you know what I mean.Q: What's the obvious direction of Apple?
A: Mobility and control of all that can be monetized. Cloud computing is obvious.
Q: What's the biggest obstacle in doing this?
A: Bandwidth, connection speeds and all that.
The answer has to be that Apple has a way to provide high connection speeds that will make the whole mobility thing work for most people. If they haven't then what are they expecting?
The next step is to work all this into the OS, all the OSs, so that fast connections are imbedded into the whole experience, seamlessly just like it was coming straight out of the hard drive.
Apps, software, etc will all be "rented" for pennies per use, but that will add up as the average person will then have access to really expensive programs and will have unlimited storage.
This will also involve all of Apple's software and that of others who want to agree to Apple's terms.
The new engineers' job will be to integrate this.
A: Mobility and control of all that can be monetized. Cloud computing is obvious.
Q: What's the biggest obstacle in doing this?
A: Bandwidth, connection speeds and all that.
The answer has to be that Apple has a way to provide high connection speeds that will make the whole mobility thing work for most people. If they haven't then what are they expecting?
The next step is to work all this into the OS, all the OSs, so that fast connections are imbedded into the whole experience, seamlessly just like it was coming straight out of the hard drive.
Apps, software, etc will all be "rented" for pennies per use, but that will add up as the average person will then have access to really expensive programs and will have unlimited storage.
This will also involve all of Apple's software and that of others who want to agree to Apple's terms.
The new engineers' job will be to integrate this.
Oh... and my wish list for OSX (or OSXI)
IOS to replace Dashboard.
Built in AppZapper. Dragging to the trash does not uninstall, but it could.
Better installation (dragging from a disc image makes sense until you explain why to someone). It should be like trash's Empty Trash button... just "Install".
Built in SVN that's crazy simplified so it makes sense to everyone. Versions is awesome until that happens.
A green maximize button that always does the same thing.
If that's not full screen, then give me the ability. Sometimes I want to concentrate on one thing.
The equivalent of Microsoft's snap feature. This is one they got right. Cinch is a great help for now.
Here's the craziest one... self contained apps, similar to IOS. Icons with badges and system wide notification like Growl. Ability to update all my software from the OS itself.
IOS to replace Dashboard.
Built in AppZapper. Dragging to the trash does not uninstall, but it could.
Better installation (dragging from a disc image makes sense until you explain why to someone). It should be like trash's Empty Trash button... just "Install".
Built in SVN that's crazy simplified so it makes sense to everyone. Versions is awesome until that happens.
A green maximize button that always does the same thing.
If that's not full screen, then give me the ability. Sometimes I want to concentrate on one thing.
The equivalent of Microsoft's snap feature. This is one they got right. Cinch is a great help for now.
Here's the craziest one... self contained apps, similar to IOS. Icons with badges and system wide notification like Growl. Ability to update all my software from the OS itself.