Apple just crapped on Pebble Time

3rdiguy

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Just that quickly showed how it should be done. If I had any doubt about getting a Apple Watch that's gone!
 

JPIndustrie

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Time will tell of course, but if current experience is anything to go on with watchOS 1.0.x, version 2 should bring us one step closer to feature 'parity' with Pebble and other wearable offerings.

I, for one am excited for the possibilities of sleep tracking - that would finally seal the coffin for fitbit/jawbone/etc...
 

DynamicSausage

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Time will tell of course, but if current experience is anything to go on with watchOS 1.0.x, version 2 should bring us one step closer to feature 'parity' with Pebble and other wearable offerings.

I, for one am excited for the possibilities of sleep tracking - that would finally seal the coffin for fitbit/jawbone/etc...
It seems like Apple is moving in the complete opposite direction of sleep tracking by allowing you to use the watch as a nightstand clock, unless of course they implement this as presuming you are asleep whilst in this mode. From what I've seen, they'd rather you wear your watch all of the time during the day and take it off to sleep.
 

ifarlow

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I, for one am excited for the possibilities of sleep tracking - that would finally seal the coffin for fitbit/jawbone/etc...
Sleep tracking was never identified as a feature or even a possibility. What makes you think this is coming?

It seems like Apple is moving in the complete opposite direction of sleep tracking by allowing you to use the watch as a nightstand clock...
Yep. I doubt that Apple will add sleep tracking until the watch hardware can support lasting longer that most of the day on a single charge.
 

Bargle

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sleep tracking apps are all pseudo-science bordering on magical thinking. How much you move in your sleep is not correlated to REM sleep or getting a good nights rest or anything else really. Brain wave activity is the only real test of sleeping and that ain't coming to AW anytime soon. So, I gather that apple is not going to plan on people sleeping with their watches ever and good for them for not following unscientific popular trends.
 
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Mobster1983

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I, for one am excited for the possibilities of sleep tracking - that would finally seal the coffin for fitbit/jawbone/etc...
I completely agree. I have been out in the field for the last 10 days and have been wearing my watch all night and using it as an alarm clock. Having the capablity to track sleep using heart rate and movement will be great. Yes, it is not totally accurate, but in my experience, it does give a pretty good general picture of sleep quality.

It seems like Apple is moving in the complete opposite direction of sleep tracking by allowing you to use the watch as a nightstand clock, unless of course they implement this as presuming you are asleep whilst in this mode. From what I've seen, they'd rather you wear your watch all of the time during the day and take it off to sleep.
Sleep tracking was never identified as a feature or even a possibility. What makes you think this is coming?

Yep. I doubt that Apple will add sleep tracking until the watch hardware can support lasting longer that most of the day on a single charge.
Apple is not adding sleep tracking as a capability. It is opening up the sensors, including HRM, to developers, which will allow them to add sleep tracking to their apps (such as Jawbone does now).
 

x-android

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I, for one am excited for the possibilities of sleep tracking - that would finally seal the coffin for fitbit/jawbone/etc...
Sleep tracking was never identified as a feature or even a possibility. What makes you think this is coming?
i wear mine to bed. i have about 30% battery everyday even after running with listening to music. then just charge it the next day while i shower before going to work and have breakfast and read some stuff then off to work.

sleep tracking? i use the activity app to tell me how well i slept during the night.
 

pooleman

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i wear mine to bed. i have about 30% battery everyday even after running with listening to music. then just charge it the next day while i shower before going to work and have breakfast and read some stuff then off to work.

sleep tracking? i use the activity app to tell me how well i slept during the night.
How does the activity tracker on the watch provide this data?
 

dotnet

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sleep tracking apps are all pseudo-science bordering on magical thinking. How much you move in your sleep is not correlated to REM sleep or getting a good nights rest or anything else really. Brain wave activity is the only real test of sleeping and that ain't coming to AW anytime soon. So, I gather that apple is not going to plan on people sleeping with their watches ever and good for them for not following unscientific popular trends.
If I play "Nightswimming" in an endless loop while I sleep, does that count as a REM cycle?
 

Ben_Dover

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How does the activity tracker on the watch provide this data?
I bet his doing what I'm doing. The activity tracker provides graphs right? So I interpret that like fitbits graph I had a thread apple watch has sleep tracker to view some illustrations lol
 

Michael CM1

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Sleep tracking was never identified as a feature or even a possibility. What makes you think this is coming?
Developers who will want to sell thousands of sleep tracking apps for a buck or two. I've got one on my iPhone and it works pretty well, tracking "quality" of sleep. It's not really defined perfectly, but it's based on how much you move I guess. Anyway, I tried sleeping with mine on last night after someone mentioned the alarm working so much better on your wrist compared to just noise alarms. I had my noise alarms set at the same time, but the alarm buzzing on my wrist did seem to wake me up quicker.

Also I don't see how any of this would be a problem with approval since you would just need access to the accelerometer and maybe a few other pieces of hardware. The only problem would be Apple saying "we won't approve of apps that are meant to be used overnight," and I really don't see that happening. I charged my watch to 90 percent before I went to sleep, and 18 hours later it was at 30 percent. It takes about an hour to charge, so people who charge their phone at some point in the evening could easily use these.
 

ZoeLou

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Time Travel is Pebble's Timeline... sorta. Nice implementation, using the Digital Crown.
Exactly what I thought when I was watching the keynote. Much nicer way of doing it I think. Definitely glad I cancelled my Pebbl Time Kickstarter to get my Apple Watch!
 
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