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Apple Keyboard and Mouse Prices Cut

As long as Apple doesn't use the same paint they used for the TiBooks that is... I have one and although I love the computer, those chips and scratches and bubbles irritate the hell out of me.

Originally posted by Rx7 Fan
But Unlike Microsoft, I think Apple has the ability to get things right the first time. With that said, I believe if apple should choose the the aluminum look for both mouse and keyboard, the paint wont be coming off any time soon:D
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Originally posted by SiliconAddict
This isn't to bad of an idea. Well the leash idea at any rate. :p The mouse is talking to the computer once every few milliseconds right? Just have the Mac sound an alarm if it loses connection to the Mac for more then 2 seconds. *runs down to the patent office*
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And I never thought my stupidity would be useful :p
 
Originally posted by foniks2020
All I know is that the Kensington PocketMouse Pro Wireless is the best optical wirelss mouse ever made.

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Id love to see how accurate it is compared to my Gyration cordless optical mouse when doing classroom presentations or watching DVDs from your armchair. This ergonomic beauty works in the air every bit as accurately as on the desktop and I take it off the charger in the morning and use it all day before dumping it back on the cradle at night. If Apple or Kensington or god can produce something better than that then fair play to them.
 
Originally posted by Chef Ramen
where exactly does it say "wired"? i cant find it anywhere on the apple store
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It's not on the Apple Store pages, and my G5 order confirmation also simply mentions Apple mouse and keyboard, but when I check my order status on the (European) Apple Store website there is a line with:
'Keybd Wired+Wired MS 065-4161'
 
i personally don't see the big deal about wireless keyboards and mice. I've got one of each and never use them for anything. There is so much dust between the keys i can scoop it out with a straw.

I would LOVE to see a backlit keyboard though. That i would buy in a second. The mouse is just not a big deal for me.
 
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Originally posted by nickmcghie
umm.. "wired" and "weird" are two different words
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Introducing the Apple Weird Mouse, ergonomically shaped like an Apple core. Bluetooth emitting leaves on the tip, and powered by fuel pips.

$59.99. Available soon.

:D :D :D
 
obviously this would remove the option of using your USB ports on the keyboard, but would it at all be possible to power the keyboard/mouse kinetically, like those Seiko watches?

This would seem to be a viable option for the keyboard, but not the optical sensor in a modern mouse, as far as I can imagine.....
 
Originally posted by jouster
I still don't understand why people are so desperate for a two button mouse from Apple. There are plenty to choose from already. I just got a Kensington and it is excellent. Just buy a third party solution.......
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Because if Apple moved to a two button "pro" mouse (leave the one button on the iMac, etc), there'd be a good chance that they'd also move to two buttons on the Powerbook (leaving one on the iBook). I refuse to carry a mouse (or, indeed, any space-consuming accessories) with my laptop, which means that the one button powerbooks are quite irritating at times.

-Richard
 
It's my impression that Apple isn't going to waste time/$ on niche markets unless they can bring something new to the table.

The current generation of high-end mice/keyboards are mature products with little room left for innovation. I have no doubt that Apple could produce or license a variant of what's already out there but its only advantage would be cosmetic.

The reality is, Apple has alot on its plate and it's unrealistic to expect them to whizbang every product with an Apple logo on it.
 
I would like to have a wireless desktop setup for my PowerBook. With the titanium models it's quite difficult to insert the usb wires in the back each day when I get at work. And using a wired mouse on the lame chair is also not slick or easy.
 
I don't like the trackpad on the powerbook either. And if they split the button in two, with a nearly-impossible-to-find boundary between the two sides, it will be nearly unusable. That's the crap design we see on PCs. Next they'll put a scroll wheel between the two buttons. (BARF)

You guys ever try any of Logitech's optical trackballs? They are excellent - easy to rotate with one finger, and no backlash. Far more accurate than a mouse, and no hand movement. What Powerbook users need is a smaller, bluetooth version of that.

As a lefty, I can't use any asymmetrical mice or trackballs. That eliminates a surprising number of new designs.
 
I don't think this is really a price cut. The $49 keyboard and mouse are the new, cheaper versions that come with the eMac -- not the $59 Pro versions.
 
negative ratings

Originally posted by Kid Red
Why are there 2 negative ratings for this? Man, lol, I can't get over this ratings thing.
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Well, I normally don't click the (+/-) ratings buttons on a thread, but now that I've read this thread, I'm going to go give this one a Negative.


Why? Because of what's not said.


Yes, I know that some people love wireless, but I consider them to be a net liability, because the batteries become one more hassle that I *must* manage.

As such, if my only option for a Pro Keyboard/Mouse is wireless *only*, then I consider that to be a "negative".


But I would find it acceptable if the Pro keyboard/mouse can be used either wired or wireless, depending on the User's preferences.

And that's what's unknown here.

So for me, for now, this is a "negative", with the obliquatory wait-and-see to see what Apple actually ends up delivering. The last thing I want is to be stuck, unable to boot up a G5 for want of a couple of friggen stupid AAA's.


-hh
 
Originally posted by soggywulf
That is what we do. But there is another advantage. If Apple ships a 2-button scroller with the Macs, the standard will be set in stone and all apps and all parts of the OS will pretty much be guaranteed to support it in a uniform way.
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That's a very bad thing as it then locks out people who can't use 2 button mice.

Don't be fooled into thinking developers will still code to support just 1 as well, they won't.

People are very selfish and short-sighted on this issue. Apple making the lowest common denominator 1 means everybody can use a Mac easily.

I've no problem with a BTO 2 button Apple Mouse, but I'm strongly against bundling it.
 
Originally posted by Blackcat
That's a very bad thing as it then locks out people who can't use 2 button mice.

WAKE UP !!!!!

We are talking about a mouse and keyboard that comes with the G5!!!
A PROFESSIONAL Working Machine.
Granny and other people that don't know how to use a 2 button mouse or want a 1 button have NO NEED FOR A G5!!!!!
Buy an imac.
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My keyboard and mouse perfectly match the form factor of my iMac. I also have a herd of mice from other sources including a wireless Kensington mounse. My quibble is this: the new mice and keyboard will be PLASTIC right? So the mettalic "look" will be just that: a look.
Not metal. (probably because of weight, cost, etc.). That said, I prefer plastic that says plastic; not plastic that says "I'm pretending to be metal."
 
Originally posted by rjstanford
Because if Apple moved to a two button "pro" mouse (leave the one button on the iMac, etc), there'd be a good chance that they'd also move to two buttons on the Powerbook (leaving one on the iBook). I refuse to carry a mouse (or, indeed, any space-consuming accessories) with my laptop, which means that the one button powerbooks are quite irritating at times.
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Extremely good point. I would say go to 2 buttons on the iBook and iMac as well. This isn't 1984, most people are quite comfortable with 2-button mice at this point. And really, it was never much of a learning curve to begin with--certainly compared to using a mouse in the first place. We're not talking Mensa here.
 
Originally posted by cubist
And if they split the button in two, with a nearly-impossible-to-find boundary between the two sides, it will be nearly unusable.
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I find it quite easy to use. The boundary is very distinct between the two buttons, and it is detectable with only a touch.

What I find to be nearly unusable is trying to use the iBook I bought my folks. Every time I want to pull up a contextual menu, I have to hunt around for the control key. Lame. To make it worse, the control key is not at the edge of the keyboard, it is inset by "fn". Barf indeed. Unfortunately, I won't consider an Apple laptop for myself, just for this reason.

Originally posted by cubist
You guys ever try any of Logitech's optical trackballs? They are excellent - easy to rotate with one finger, and no backlash. Far more accurate than a mouse, and no hand movement.
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Personally I hate trackballs; I find them to be exactly opposite to the way you describe. No matter, to each their own. But on this issue (as opposed to 2-button mice) I see no advantage to Apple releasing their own. 3rd parties will suffice here.
 
Originally posted by zoozx
Originally posted by Blackcat
That's a very bad thing as it then locks out people who can't use 2 button mice.

WAKE UP !!!!!

We are talking about a mouse and keyboard that comes with the G5!!!
A PROFESSIONAL Working Machine.
Granny and other people that don't know how to use a 2 button mouse or want a 1 button have NO NEED FOR A G5!!!!!
Buy an imac.
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Thank you, Mr Knowall.

I'm a pro user, I'm also severely disabled and can't use a 2 button mouse (or ANY mouse).

As I do a lot of DV work a G5 appeals but I'll lose the benefit of speed if I'm struggling to use the system.

You wakeup. The world is a varied place with lots of people in it with needs different from yours.
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Originally posted by Blackcat
That's a very bad thing as it then locks out people who can't use 2 button mice.
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Not true. The 1-button users can use control click, as they have for years. There's no need to change that.

Originally posted by Blackcat
People are very selfish and short-sighted on this issue. Apple making the lowest common denominator 1 means everybody can use a Mac easily.
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Do you really believe that using a 2-button mouse is physically or intellectually difficult? If you are handicapped, then perhaps...but in that case, again you can get a 1-button mouse and control-clicks, like we have now.

Remember that most *beginner* computer users are buying PC's these days. PC's with 2 buttons. They manage just fine. If they can, beginners on the Mac side can too; and they will enjoy the benefits it provides.

Edit: I saw in your last post that you are indeed handicapped. Even so, I believe my arguments above are still valid.
 
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Originally posted by cesar
oohh, I was think like wired, strange or something like that
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No, that would be WEIRD. Learn how to spell.
 
off-topic

Originally posted by Blackcat
Thank you, Mr Knowall.

I'm a pro user, I'm also severely disabled and can't use a 2 button mouse (or ANY mouse).

As I do a lot of DV work a G5 appeals but I'll lose the benefit of speed if I'm struggling to use the system.

You wakeup. The world is a varied place with lots of people in it with needs different from yours.
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Do you mind me asking what your input device of choice is, Blackcat?

Are there any notable elements of OS X that could be improved to make the lives of handicapped people easier?

Dunepilot
 
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