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Apple Launches 'Apps for Earth' Promotion in Support of World Wildlife Fund
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Right behind Vegan guy is Cross-Fit guy...Both types will try to sell you on their obsessions ad nauseum.
As for food, the best way for now plainly is to promote eating more veggies, but psychologically it doesn't work so well when we tell each other to just stop eating something. As part-time vegan, I have discovered SO much incredibly delicious food that I wasn't aware of from being raised as a meat-eater. Just bring home some greens that you haven't tried much before. Familiarize yourself with them, learn from others. It will enrich your life and health.
In defense of Harrycooke, he's simply stating verifiable facts which sometimes tend to offend people. The carbon (and biospheric) footprint of industrial meat production is staggering, and the health benefits of a balanced diet and more greens can not be overstated.
Here's a study of a population without heart disease, for instance. http://www.staffanlindeberg.com/TheKitavaStudy.html
In defense of Harrycooke, he's simply stating verifiable facts which sometimes tend to offend people. The carbon (and biospheric) footprint of industrial meat production is staggering, and the health benefits of a balanced diet and more greens can not be overstated.
Here's a study of a population without heart disease, for instance. http://www.staffanlindeberg.com/TheKitavaStudy.html
Yep, the poster was stating factual information backed up by science, then attacked for it because it apparently upset some people. Human nature I suppose, but it's sad nonetheless.
And the fact that a vegan diet doesn't supply the minerals, vitamins, and other nutrients humans need to survive. What part of humans are carnivores don't people get. Oh, yeah, it's not politically correct. Got, it. Sorry I forgot it. Shame on me.
Though I can see how some people may be put off by some of Apple's stances on social and environmental issues, it's still definitely great to see that they are encouraging its consumers to be more informed and involved in those causes. Being at least conscious of the issues is a big step forward
How then do you account for the demonstrable fact there there are vegans, they are human, and they do survive?
Not meaning to step on anyone's toes here, really. But I don't understand the backlash some people have to ideas that they are opposed to, even though those ideas are backed by science and evidence.
How do you know if someone isn't a vegan? They keep telling that same stale old joke over and over again.
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I am just delivering the facts. That's not preaching. It's educating.
This is all well and good if you live in a more suitable to growing veggy all year long, but it doesn't make any sense in northern countries. Having to ship in your food is costly and energy enneficient and so are hydroponic farm that needs to be heated and watered during -30c winters. This is why we consume meat which beside being able to live in badly heated barns and being fed dried grass and grains as also the bonus of providing us with some needed extra fat that we ourselves burn up while working to keep us warm. The whole Canadian colonization rest on the shoulder of our friend the pigs which gave us the needed energy to burn while working outside. Now if I was living in a tropical climate I may get that you can make do without meat, but since I'm living in a country where spring as yet to finally come and the soil is still frozen... I don't.
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Either they have a life style that isn't energy intensive or they cheat by taking supplements. Humans aren't herbivore, we are omnivore. We have to get a bit of everything to get our nutritional needs fulfilled.
Then you have not looked at the health problems that strict vegans have after years of not getting proper nutrition. If you are so open, then go read about the problems. Like anything else people are different, some get really sick on a vegan diet and some don't get noticeably sick, but it is well established that there are certain nutrients that you can not get from a strictly vegan diet. There are some people that will convince you that you don't need said nutrients because vegan, just like anything else, is a product that has to be sold.
Nothing wrong with eating your veggies, but anything eaten at the sole exclusion of a balanced diet (for a healthy person) is not healthy. Humans are meant to be meat eaters, no matter how much that upsets your sensibilities.
Cows and pigs taste so good though. Bison isn't bad either.
Provide your evidence please?
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You realise animals raised for consumption are given the supplements for it (B12 for example) to be passed down the chain into humans, who then destroy the nutrient by cooking the meat. I'd rather skip the middle man. Especially when doing so has endless benefits.
It's not so much the idea itself as it is the people with elitist attitudes who seem to want to push remind others about their personal ideals every chance they get. These responses are likely more geared towards those people than it is the idea of veganism or vegetarianism.
So mentioning a fact is 'pushing' and having an 'elitist attitude'. You might forget that most of us were in fact in the same position as you at some point. We don't hate you, or think we are better than you because we WERE you.
Delivering the facts to an audience that never really asked or cared to hear them in the first place can be considered preaching.
Googling the definition of preaching turned this up:
"give moral advice to someone in an annoying or pompously self-righteous way"
Those who spoke out against your original post probably felt you did so in that manner.
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I don't care for people preaching most anything, as it can feel grating and turn people off. I get that. But the poster wasn't being preachy. He made a valid scientifically backed claim, and is then accused of preaching and being elitist.
I think some people react emotionally to strongly held beliefs as if they are being attacked, when in fact that's not true.
That's cognitive dissonance, my friend.
The same could be said of us. There are some those of us (myself included) who may have tried out being a vegan or vegetarian as well and, for whatever reason, found that it didn't fit in with their lifestyle. I WAS you as well. Some people just don't like being preached to.
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Agreed. The response is likely tied to experiences they may have had in public.
"It's educating" there it is; the Vegan 'superiority complex' coming to illuminate the world with their vast knowledge of vegetables and climate change data.
You are no different from any other radical preacher group, you use the same methods fear, guilt, an alleged solution and of course the 'higher purpose' bit (or in your case mother earth).
I applaud these kindhearted efforts, selling apps, supporting WWF, not reproducing (the actual biggest thing you can do for our environment), and going vegetarian or vegan. All sweet, well meaning, and long term may amount to something, if there's anything left by then.
However, I think there has to be real, direct, personal consequences at stake to change the main offenders behavior. I look forward to supporting guerilla tactics in my retirement years, as we support for far less positive causes our entire taxpaying lives.
However, I think there has to be real, direct, personal consequences at stake to change the main offenders behavior. I look forward to supporting guerilla tactics in my retirement years, as we support for far less positive causes our entire taxpaying lives.
Let me chime in; as I probably got most annoyed at that person's post, every time I hear a Vegan it's some failed attempt at emotional guilt; it does not help that it is Vegan's in the UK lobbying for a 'meat tax', i.e. trying to force their way on everyone else.
When I read his post it was the same garbage rhetoric I'm constantly hearing which just gets my back up.
Vegetarians on the other hands don't preach, I don't know about your upbringing personally but I knew a few vegetarians and what was great about them was if engaged they did not preach they reached for recipes, some they would say has a similar texture to meat; plus they would always be upfront about the supplements they would have to take you just don't get that with Vegans.
Save the life of thousand of innocent vegetables, EAT BACON. Sodding hypocritical hippy wannabees.
We believe in saving the planet, here buy our latest and greatest iPad and iPhone every year. If Apple truly want to help save the planet, stop releaseing a new product every 6 months. Release a product with cutting edge technology every 18 - 24 months.
We believe in saving the planet, here buy our latest and greatest iPad and iPhone every year. If Apple truly want to help save the planet, stop releaseing a new product every 6 months. Release a product with cutting edge technology every 18 - 24 months.
They get recycled. But thanks for spreading the misinformation and lies.
The vast majority don't get recycled. In case of smart phone they are cleaned and resold in third world country where they end up in landfills when they reach their end of life ( I deal with company that "recycle" such devices ).