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It told me that a Mac Studio 64GB 1TB or a MacBook Pro 16" at 48GB and 1TB SSD would cover my needs...

Ummm, going from a 28 Core Xeon Mac Pro with Dual W6800X Duos and heaps of internal SSD storage...

I wonder what needs to be selected for it to recommend the 2023 Mac Pro, or perhaps they actively want to discourage people from buying it.
 
This is what happens when the lineup is somewhat bloated and overlapping. I remember when I bought my first Mac. A Mac mini… and I spent zero time deciding which one to buy. That was 2006 and the lineup was so clear.
That’s exactly what I’d buy, a Mac mini. And that’s what this tool recommended to me. Except when I start specing up the RAM and storage to match the amount I have now it’s too expensive and competes poorly with the Mac Studio. (The tool actually did not recommend the 32 GB one but instead the 16 GB one).
 
Good. Help me choose an iMac that at least matches the storage, memory, and screen size of my 2019 27". Not going to settle for a 5-year "upgrade" to anything less.

Oh wait, you don't make one? Some help. And no a Studio+display (or worse laptop+display) isn't an option; have specific needs for an all-in-one.
 
The budget question is pretty funny, you could eliminate most of the questions with that one. Really the only questions you need are:
  1. laptop?
  2. budget?
As if people’s entire budget was to be spent on their computer, and we didn’t also need a monitor, peripherals and instruments, food, shelter.

And the blurbs are asininely relative.
  • 16GB of unified memory, so everything you do is fast and fluid
  • 512GB of superfast SSD storage launches apps and opens files in an instant
How about sharing some benchmarks about how many virtual instruments and audio tracks it can handle?
 
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That’s exactly what I’d buy, a Mac mini. And that’s what this tool recommended to me. Except when I start specing up the RAM to match the amount I have now (32 GB) it’s too expensive and competes poorly with the Mac Studio. (The tool actually did not recommend the 32 GB one but instead the 16 GB one).
Apple custom build options are so expensive that they then make the device you’re customizing just as expensive as the next device up in the lineup.

Said it before and I’ll say it again. They are kings of the up sell.

The only good thing is that for the average consumer with a light to moderate workflow can actually get by easily on the base RAM spec. Even if the system starts using virtually memory heavily the subsystems are so fast that for an average consumer the impact would be negligible, and the SSD wear is a non issue these days.
 
It suggested a 13" MacBook Air with 16gb/1tb. Same specs as my current m1 air.

Looks good to me, though I'm not upgrading for a couple more years, at minimum.
 
Apple custom build options are so expensive that they then make the device you’re customizing just as expensive as the next device up in the lineup.

Said it before and I’ll say it again. They are kings of the up sell.

The only good thing is that for the average consumer with a light to moderate workflow can actually get by easily on the base RAM spec. Even if the system starts using virtually memory heavily the subsystems are so fast that for an average consumer the impact would be negligible, and the SSD wear is a non issue these days.
8 GB is really not enough for any new Mac anymore. There was some doubt before but not now with all the on-device AI stuff.
 
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The mods in the Reddit Apple threads are cheering. The question posted three million times: "Should I buy the Apple X with 8 gigs of memory and 512 gig of storage or 16 gigs of memory and 256 gigs of storage."
 
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8 GB is really not enough anymore. There was some doubt before but not now with all the on-device AI stuff.
They keep releasing Mac’s with 8 GB RAM.

I suspect later this year or next year we start to see the base RAM spec increase. 12 GB maybe but i suspect it could jump to 16 GB more likely.

I still have an older 2018 Mac Mini with 8 GB RAM and with Sonoma and various office and web browser windows open it still flies and uses minimal virtual memory. It’s actually doing pretty damn well compared to my MacBook Air M2… just goes to show how well optimized Apple computers are. Even before Apple Silicon I found their performance on intel to be stellar.
 
They keep releasing Mac’s with 8 GB RAM.

I suspect later this year or next year we start to see the base RAM spec increase. 12 GB maybe but i suspect it could jump to 16 GB more likely.

I still have an older 2018 Mac Mini with 8 GB RAM and with Sonoma and various office and web browser windows open it still flies and uses minimal virtual memory. It’s actually doing pretty damn well compared to my MacBook Air M2… just goes to show how well optimized Apple computers are. Even before Apple Silicon I found their performance on intel to be stellar.
Yeah you don’t need much for some use cases. I’ve a 2013 Core i5 21.5” iMac in my kitchen that I use for the occasional video streaming or call, for that it works perfectly fine. Definitely think the bar should be higher for brand new Macs especially as upgrades aren’t possible later.
 
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It's a pity this is needed.

That said, since Apple silicon came out I think the right answer for most people is a MacBook Air. Unless you KNOW you need more in which case you already know which one you want.
 
8 GB is really not enough for any new Mac anymore. There was some doubt before but not now with all the on-device AI stuff.

I really hope we will be able to disable all that. I won't buy less than 16gb, but I don't want gigabytes wasted on AI that I have zero interest in.
 
The mods in the Reddit Apple threads are cheering. The question posted three million times: "Should I buy the Apple X with 8 gigs of memory and 512 gig of storage or 16 gigs of memory and 256 gigs of storage."
But how does it answer that question? I need to see their internal benchmarks, how many tracks and virtual instruments can it play while still record more tracks in a 80 degree room, before the fans come on and the error screen come on. How many Chrome tabs running ads with videos before the fans come on?
 
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What is the point of this? Buyers know what they want! It is just a question of budget.

No they don't. They often don't have a clue.

One of the things I get paid for is picking an appropriate system for my clients' needs. They have no idea how much RAM or storage they need, they have no idea which processor they need, they don't really know the difference between a MacBook Pro and MacBook Air.

I've had clients who were prepared to buy the most expensive MacBook Pro, and after figuring out what they were going to be doing with it I've steered them to the cheapest MacBook Air. I've had clients who thought they needed a Mac Pro, I've saved them enough money to buy a couple extra Mac mini workstations. And I've had them try to get the cheapest Mac mini when they needed a loaded Mac Studio.
 
Apple suggested me either the $1,099.00 MacBook Air (M3) or $999.00 MacBook Air (M2). At home, I'm using a 14-inch MacBook Pro (M1 Pro with 32GB memory and 1TB storage) in conjunction with an Apple Studio Display. Guess I paid way too much.
 
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I have $450 to spend. What's the right Mac for me?

Used M1 MacBook Air or Mac mini. If you want to go slightly older (Intel) you can pick up a nice MacBook Pro or 2018 mini.

There's a Mac for every budget. Even if that budget is $0. (But you've got to be in the right place at the right time for $0.)

And OpenCore Legacy Patcher will be your friend.
 
this sounds like the move a company would make right before the CEO fires all the retail staff.
If there's writing on the wall, then this would be it.

Not saying they will, but not saying they won't either.
 
Apple suggested me either the $1,099.00 MacBook Air (M3) or $999.00 MacBook Air (M2). At home, I'm using a 14-inch MacBook Pro (M1 Pro with 32GB memory and 1TB storage) in conjunction with an Apple Studio Display. Guess I paid way too much.

Maybe you paid way too much. Or maybe you have needs that this thing didn't take into account.
 
i chose only browsing online, with 3500 budget, and it suggested the 1299 iMac and Mac mini 599

at least, they don't screw people over
 
What makes anyone think Apple even know what's going on with their lineup? It looks like Steve Ballmer is behind it.
 
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