Apple Launches iPhoto for iPad with Photo Editing and Organization Features

[buckers]

Why would I edit photos on a phone and then have to sync and import them into the Mac iPhoto, unless I was on holiday and away from the computer for a while? Is there direct syncing, be it over WiFi, an internet connection or the USB cable?

If I had an iPad, how would I get my DSLR photos on there? Surely I'd have to import them into iPhoto for Mac, and then sync the iPad with iTunes. How could I fit my entire library on it?

Am I missing something here? What happened to iCloud?

Don't get me wrong, though. The app looks really slick and I'm really glad they've done it (not to mention the awesome £2.99 price point), but these are the small things that would stop me putting it to real use.

 

[Enori]

Good God, syncing looks like a mess. I sync album from iPhoto, make changes in iPhoto on iPad, then I need to export this photo to camera roll on iPad, then it syncs with Photo Stream, then I go to pc, copy photo from photo stream to album and finally delete original photo from album. Phew.
Or, I take photo with my iPhone, edit it on iPhoto, export to camera roll, syncs with Stream, nice, but I'm left with 1 original photo on my camera roll, one edited in my camera roll, and two, same edited photos in iPhoto on iPhone.

 

[buckers]

Good God, syncing looks like a mess.

Which is a real shame, because I've just been playing around with it on my iPhone 4, and it's a brilliant app.

 

[steviem]

Why would I edit photos on a phone and then have to sync and import them into the Mac iPhoto, unless I was on holiday and away from the computer for a while? Is there direct syncing, be it over WiFi, an internet connection or the USB cable?

If I had an iPad, how would I get my DSLR photos on there? Surely I'd have to import them into iPhoto for Mac, and then sync the iPad with iTunes. How could I fit my entire library on it?

Am I missing something here? What happened to iCloud?

Don't get me wrong, though. The app looks really slick and I'm really glad they've done it (not to mention the awesome £2.99 price point), but these are the small things that would stop me putting it to real use.

Answers for you!

I just got the iPad Camera Connection Kit - I know, what a strange concept.... It has 2 connectors, one for an SD Card and another for a USB cable. Using the SD card connector, I imported RAW photos and a couple of 1080i MP4 files.

In iPhoto, it tells me that the images are from RAW files, but it only shows the jpg versions, which are annoyingly stripped of metadata.

iPhoto doesn't seem to sync with the desktop version. Also, at the moment, iCloud is limited to sharing.

Hopefully there will be a $20 Aperture app, which will let me properly edit and manage RAW files and put my entire photo library into iCloud.

So far, for $5 it's a great concept, the Journal portion is really nice, but I'd like to see 'faces' in there too.

 

[steviem]

Good God, syncing looks like a mess. I sync album from iPhoto, make changes in iPhoto on iPad, then I need to export this photo to camera roll on iPad, then it syncs with Photo Stream, then I go to pc, copy photo from photo stream to album and finally delete original photo from album. Phew.
Or, I take photo with my iPhone, edit it on iPhoto, export to camera roll, syncs with Stream, nice, but I'm left with 1 original photo on my camera roll, one edited in my camera roll, and two, same edited photos in iPhoto on iPhone.

Just edit the one in Photostream?

*sorry for double post. Mods, please merge them together if you don't mind

 

[Enori]

Nope. If I edit the one in the photo stream I still need to export it to camera roll, then photo stream. Edits doesn't sync with photos app.

 

[buckers]

Answers for you!

Thanks for that!! +1

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There still needs to be some storage solution. My library is 40-50GB of family photos. iPhoto for iCloud would be ideal!

 

[Cory Bauer]

Answers for you!

I just got the iPad Camera Connection Kit - I know, what a strange concept.... It has 2 connectors, one for an SD Card and another for a USB cable. Using the SD card connector, I imported RAW photos and a couple of 1080i MP4 files.

In iPhoto, it tells me that the images are from RAW files, but it only shows the jpg versions, which are annoyingly stripped of metadata.

iPhoto doesn't seem to sync with the desktop version. Also, at the moment, iCloud is limited to sharing.

Hopefully there will be a $20 Aperture app, which will let me properly edit and manage RAW files and put my entire photo library into iCloud.

So far, for $5 it's a great concept, the Journal portion is really nice, but I'd like to see 'faces' in there too.

Thanks for that. This is a very cool App, but pointless for me if it can't:

1. Work with RAW files
2. Maintain and sync non-destructive edits between the iOS and desktop App

 

[steviem]

The edits are non destructive.

Also, using an image in Photostream which came from my camera uploaded to my iPad, I edited it on my iPhone and it updated across to my iPad without any of the shenanigans listed by the poster above.

I have to say, so far, this is great to work with on the go and if I take some time to consider the details, it may change the way I work with my photos. *not a pro by any stretch of the imagination, but always looking to find ways of freeing myself from my desk when not at work...

 

[HarryPot]

The edits are non destructive.

Non-destructive is really just a way of saying "iPhoto makes a duplicate of the file". Eventually you end with thousands of duplicates.

The real beauty of Aperture, besides handling RAW, is that it has real non-destructive editing. Were no duplicates are made.

 

[liquidsuns]

Well unless the iPad version is different from the iPhone version, this does NOT have any (other then Photo Journal) organization features. Which sucks cause that is the last missing ingredient (as well as iClouding that organization) to actually make iOS PC-free....and it's a BIG missing ingredient.

This just another (albeit pretty sweet) photo editing app.

 

[steviem]

Non-destructive is really just a way of saying "iPhoto makes a duplicate of the file". Eventually you end with thousands of duplicates.

The real beauty of Aperture, besides handling RAW, is that it has real non-destructive editing. Were no duplicates are made.

Doesn't seem to be how it's presenting edited images... Seems to present it in a way similar to Aperture.

 

[gazonk]

People who down-voted this are retards.

I usually avoid such wording, but yeah, they are. Or at least they haven't been paying attention to camera announcements for at least one year.

5dmkii = 21mp.
5dmkiii = 22mp.

Where the hell is the ipad for these people?

Some may want to argue that with those cameras, you're not going to use iPhoto anyway (There is basically no RAW support: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5182?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US) - BUT even for power users, iPhoto could have been interesting for quick image fixes when you're traveling light (you can always shoot RAW+JPEG).

But it's not like some ignorants here presumably assume, that cameras with more than 19mp are pro cameras! Nokia just announced a camera phone with 40mp... Most people will produce only 5mp images from that camera, but then there are cameras like the Samsung NX200 with 20mp, clearly targeted at consumers and the Sony NEX-7 with 24mp, also a high end camera, but not exactly a "pro" camera.

Retina display huh?
That would sure make a great DSLR monitor/controller.

Well, that will certainly still be possible (with the right software) even if you're not using iPhoto!

Oh right, it's just an overgrown toy that inherently illogically lacks functional use.

I guess that despite all the "post PC" marketing BS, the iPad is still very far from being a PC replacement if your computing needs are a little more than web browsing and mailing. E.g. if you're serious about photography above the camera phone snapshot level.

 

[Nimrad]

People who down-voted this are retards.

5dmkii = 21mp.
5dmkiii = 22mp.

To respond you in the same retarded way:
People who don't understand that there are limitations on a photo editing app on a mobile device are retarted.

 

[kitenski]

Can anyone tell me if this changes the way photos are synced/displayed on the iPad around sub folders?

Ie if I have a subfolder

Summer, with subfolders under that of 2010 2011 2012, the iPad flattens them all into one folder called Summer.

Does this keep the subfolder structure?

Thanks,

Greg

 

[gazonk]

People who don't understand that there are limitations on a photo editing app on a mobile device are retarted.

Everybody understands that, and nobody expects it to support medium format cameras in the 40-80mp range, but the point is that the 19mp limit is just a little too low. There are even point and shoot cameras at 18mp now, so let's hope Apple is able to stretch this limit within a few months - before 20-24mp cameras are the new norm. People who want high quality in a small package already buy cameras like the Sony NEX-7 (24mp) or the Samsung NX200 (20mp), and exactly these customers - who prefer to travel light, but who won't compromise on quality - are of course also right in the target group as iPad buyers.

(And don't forget that Nokia is able to process 40mp of image data in a phone)

 

[Fandongo]

To respond you in the same retarded way:
People who don't understand that there are limitations on a photo editing app on a mobile device are retarted.

The iPad 3 is not a mobile device.

It's is a quad-core computer that forgot to be tethered to the wall.

Any limitations are purely retarded.

 

[Nimrad]

Everybody understands that, and nobody expects it to support medium format cameras in the 40-80mp range, but the point is that the 19mp limit is just a little too low. There are even point and shoot cameras at 18mp now, so let's hope Apple is able to stretch this limit within a few months - before 20-24mp cameras are the new norm. People who want high quality in a small package already buy cameras like the Sony NEX-7 (24mp) or the Samsung NX200 (20mp), and exactly these customers - who prefer to travel light, but who won't compromise on quality - are of course also right in the target group as iPad buyers.

(And don't forget that Nokia is able to process 40mp of image data in a phone)

I do understand, and as a photographer I also understand how frustrating it must be for those using especially Sony cameras which tend to use 20+ MP. As I pointed out I replied in a retarded way. But as naïve as I am I tend to trust Apple to make the right decision. What I base that conclusion on is that all my other Apple Apps tend to work more fluently then when I purchased other products without those "stupid" limitations. Apple dares to make these kind of hard decisions. Many don't like it, but I think that kind of decisions is what makes Apple be Apple and not everybody else.

 

[Macman45]

This one I will try when I get my newbie. It looks impressive...Coupled with the camera I may well use it in the studio. Of course, it will be more like £5 here in the UK, but I'll give it a try.

 

[Fandongo]

I usually avoid such wording, but yeah, they are. Or at least they haven't been paying attention to camera announcements for at least one year.



Some may want to argue that with those cameras, you're not going to use iPhoto anyway (There is basically no RAW support: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5182?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US) - BUT even for power users, iPhoto could have been interesting for quick image fixes when you're traveling light (you can always shoot RAW+JPEG).

But it's not like some ignorants here presumably assume, that cameras with more than 19mp are pro cameras! Nokia just announced a camera phone with 40mp... Most people will produce only 5mp images from that camera, but then there are cameras like the Samsung NX200 with 20mp, clearly targeted at consumers and the Sony NEX-7 with 24mp, also a high end camera, but not exactly a "pro" camera.



Well, that will certainly still be possible (with the right software) even if you're not using iPhoto!



I guess that despite all the "post PC" marketing BS, the iPad is still very far from being a PC replacement if your computing needs are a little more than web browsing and mailing. E.g. if you're serious about photography above the camera phone snapshot level.

Ok, iphoto can blow all it wants, what's important (for photographers) is photoshop touch, and it's (in)ability to support raw.

Thunderbolt was a big opportunity that totally whizzed passed everyone's head this generation of electronics.

Monitoring is a simple request... over USB 2.0 you can monitor/control DSLRs **when attaching DSLR to ipod touch to a COMPUTER** but it's what, 8fps? Phones can control it on their own now, but only the dual core ones.

The entire filmmaking industry has been monopolized for over a hundred years until Canon threw Kodak in an alley and urinated in their mouth, but price gauging is still VERY prevalent in accessories (5" monitors are still $500-$20,000+).

DSLRs and ipads are DANGEROUSLY powerful technological revolutions, born to work together...why the hell aren't they?

Chris Dodd, the MPAA, Hollywood. All in immediate danger of dissolution.
That's why.
That's also why the revolutionary jump in video encoding in Ivy bridge will somehow cease to be... or fail to be integrated into FCP.

We take pride in our anti-competition task force (DOJ). It makes it seem like we're not getting f$%%ed in the "a", no lube, no saliva...sand.

That's why Canon sat on the 5Dii for 3.5 years, unlimited data is gone, physical media is gone--which is good, but--the iPad3 stores less than the ipod touch 1.0, and I'm pretty sure Billie Mayes was still alive the last time the Mac Pro was updated...SAND

They're using sand.

**This just in. DOJ warns Apple the suits are coming.

Price fixing ebooks, tsk tsk.

 

[Cory Bauer]

The edits are non destructive.

Also, using an image in Photostream which came from my camera uploaded to my iPad, I edited it on my iPhone and it updated across to my iPad without any of the shenanigans listed by the poster above.

But do the edits remain non-destructive between iOS iPhoto and OS X iPhoto? That to me is the key. Being able to edit your photos on the iOS version is pointless if the output to the OS X iPhoto is the original image plus a flattened adjusted image.

The real beauty of Aperture, besides handling RAW, is that it has real non-destructive editing. Were no duplicates are made.

This is exactly right, and more of what I was expecting. As it's the only thing that makes sense from a functionality standpoint. The photos cannot reside permanently on the iOS device due to space limitations, so it would be crazy if the edits there are permanent. Those photos eventually need to move to your Mac, where you'd want the non-destructive editing to remain in-tact.

 

[gazonk]

I do understand, and as a photographer I also understand how frustrating it must be for those using especially Sony cameras which tend to use 20+ MP. As I pointed out I replied in a retarded way. But as naïve as I am I tend to trust Apple to make the right decision. What I base that conclusion on is that all my other Apple Apps tend to work more fluently then when I purchased other products without those "stupid" limitations. Apple dares to make these kind of hard decisions. Many don't like it, but I think that kind of decisions is what makes Apple be Apple and not everybody else.

What you say makes a lot of sense, but it also means that the iPad unfortunately still can't be considered much more than a toy even for hobby photographers, which are much better served with the smallest Air (with 4GB!) than with the newest iPad. Now if they only could make a retina version of the Air

 

[quaternio]

I don't mean to hate, but complaining about the 19MP limit for an iPad is ridiculous. If you are going to complain from a professional standpoint, complain that RAW isn't supported. But for me, the iPad still has a LONG way to go to be any sort of a replacement for a computer in my profession of photography, and it has nothing to do with the 19MP limit (and yet, I'm typing from my iPad 2 right now).

Also, I wouldn't expect to see an iOS Aperure for at least 2 years.

 

[gazonk]

I don't mean to hate, but complaining about the 19MP limit for an iPad is ridiculous. If you are going to complain from a professional standpoint, complain that RAW isn't supported.

You still don't get it? There are now (and there will soon be many more!) NON-professional cameras that exceed 19mp. Even the NEX-7, while pretty high-end for a mirrorless, is not a pro camera and will certainly be used by a lot of jpeg-only pure amateur shooters. But I'm optimistic that this is a limitation that the Apple developers will remove as they get time to optimize their code for future versions of the app.

 

[canman4PM]

My Sony has 24 MP, so this kind of sucks and makes no sense for me then....

Ya, but I see you have a Quad-Core MBP and a fairly high-end camera. What the hell are you doing your editing on an iPad for? If you're just doing short and dirty edits, or playing with "non-important" photos for uploading to whatever (fb, twitter, etc), who cares if the iPad de-scales them to 19MP? As another reader said: are you gonna try to Airprint a billboard from an iPad? Or fully Photoshop a pic on an iPad just to add it to your fb page? No, your gonna open a real computer to do real computing - your gonna use that MBP you paid 2.5-3 Grand for, not your thousand dollar iPad.

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Seriously, what the ****?
It's an Apple app! And it's only available on USA Store... Should be released worldwide.

It's also available on the Canadian Store.