Apple Launches New Blog to Share Details on Machine Learning Research

[natepaschall]

Cool, maybe Apple will update this as often as they update their Swift blog. You know like once every 9 months.

 

[vmachiel]

No idea if if they are kidding but it's nice read a positive story that would never have happened under Jobs' tenure at Apple. I think Jobs was brilliant but I'm tired of all the blind Steve Jobs worship and nostalgia on the Internet every time Apple does something that a troll or blogger disagrees with.

I was more referring to the all caps

 

[firewood]

This is an important step forward for Apple (and any new tech companies that copy this).

The world changed significantly during the time when a fully funded Bell Labs was publishing the Bell Labs Technical Journal (and IBM was publishing technical disclosures as well). That led to the invention of digital logic theory, the transistor, the laser, and even the founding of Apple itself (via a certain blue box).

Apple can afford enough R&D (how many $Billions?) to create a new critical mass of researchers and inventors, not only for its own products, but for the future of humanity in general.

 

[Keane16]

I think he meant that Apple is having a hard time recruiting more AI researchers/scientists that needs to be able to publish their works (they're not the engineers type). In order for Apple to benefit from their minds, they have to start opening up to the public. This isn't your traditional CS work, this is purely scientific research that has a long history of journal-based reviews and public access.

There were many rumors that many AI researchers turned down jobs at Apple simply because they would not be able to publish their works. For these scientists, it is not about the money or the company, it is all about having their work published with their name on it.

Apple did just that, allow research publishing. From December last year:

"Earlier in December, Apple announced that it would begin allowing its artificial intelligence and machine learning researchers to publish and share their work in papers, slightly pulling back the curtain on the company's famously secretive creation processes. Now, just a few weeks later, the first of those papers has been published, focusing on Apple's work in the intelligent image recognition field. "

https://www.macrumors.com/2016/12/26/apples-ai-team-first-paper/

 

[Crzyrio]

Except no, it isn’t. It isn’t in this area or other areas.

Apple is sharing their knowledge, and others? They aren’t! Except informercials.

What?

Almost all companies are sharing their knowledge. Google has a fair amount of their AI project on github.

 

[Zirel]

What?

Almost all companies are sharing their knowledge. Google has a fair amount of their AI project on github.

Lol, no.

 

[albusseverus]

Apple used to inspire with products & features years ahead of the industry (like personal networking and network printing a decade before Windows implemented it, industry leading high end Macs, etc). Even Windows owners had to admit, Macs are very good, even if not for them.

The products spoke for themselves.

Now it's anything but the products, from machine learning to social activism. Perhaps that's a good distraction when Intel stuffs up product releases for 2 years, but seriously…

it's time to let the products speak for themselves.

The backlog cleared at WWDC, but if there's no updates EVERY year, we know products take a back seat in the new Apple.

 

[Crzyrio]

Lol, no.

lol great argument though. Perfectly sums up your point, or lack of one.

 

[Zirel]

lol great argument though. Perfectly sums up your point, or lack of one.

You need to prove your point, buddy.

Google has not a single project on github.

Here’s my proof:

https://github.com/google

 

[Crzyrio]

You need to prove your point, buddy.

Google has not a single project on github.

Here’s my proof:

https://github.com/google

and here's mine:

https://research.googleblog.com/2015/11/tensorflow-googles-latest-machine_9.html

literally one of the most used frameworks for ML was developed and open sourced by Google

 

[Zirel]

and here's mine:

https://research.googleblog.com/2015/11/tensorflow-googles-latest-machine_9.html

literally one of the most used frameworks for ML was developed and open sourced by Google

Nope!

That is not ML, you can do ML with that, but that's not ML.

 

[Crzyrio]

Nope!

That is not ML, you can do ML with that, but that's not ML.

What do you mean it is not ML? lol

It literally is a machine learning library.

 

[Zirel]

What do you mean it is not ML? lol

It literally is a machine learning library.

That’s the same thing as saying that a calculator is algebra.

It’s a tool, not knowledge.

 

[Crzyrio]

That’s the same thing as saying that a calculator is algebra.

It’s a tool, not knowledge.

It's a tool with access to all the underlying code.

 

[Zirel]

It's a tool with access to all the underlying code.

No knowledge

 

[Crzyrio]

No knowledge

You can actually go through the code to see how models are trained and tested.

Instead of writing an article on a new way off training models, they are giving you working code that you can step through. The knowledge is in the code.

There is a giant step for someone when you give them actual code that runs as opposed to just an article stating this is the idea we used.

Heck, I'm sure there is plenty of documentation that also shows you how it all works and why things are done a certain way.

 

[mi7chy]

Lol, no.

Don't forget DeepMind is part of Google.

https://github.com/deepmind/lab

https://github.com/deepmind/

 

[Zirel]

Don't forget DeepMind is part of Google.

https://github.com/deepmind/lab

https://github.com/deepmind/

Public information?