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Google must be laughing at this amateur effort, the maps look so bad lol.

Google feels so threatened and uneased that the had the erge to upstage apple last Friday. With a pathetic and unprofessional 'me-too' performance. Reminds me of old Steve from ms presenting 'windoze tablets' back in 2010.
 
Oh, you were at WWDC and saw the keynote? You got to try it? Or are you just trolling?

I saw the pictures of the maps and they look crap. Maps are kind of things you look at lol. Google Win Again.

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Google feels so threatened and uneased that the had the erge to upstage apple last Friday. With a pathetic and unprofessional 'me-too' performance. Reminds me of old Steve from ms presenting 'windoze tablets' back in 2010.

They didnt need to worry, Apples maps look terrible.
 

I don't see why that should be a requirement. Turn-by-turn is essentially an automatic version of step-by-step directions we have now.

It makes no difference to me, though, as I'll be upgrading to the new iPhone.
 
What gps mapping apps can you use without a wireless connection? All the GPS apps I know require a signal.
GPS doesn't work without a signal right? :confused:

GPS uses satellites (basic huge clocks in space). It doesn't require an Internet connection itself. You can calculate your coordinates completely offline (but within sight of a couple of satellites).

Offline use has fewer and fewer real uses, and it takes lots of space (although vector maps should be much smaller). They can always cache an area of a few miles surrounding your route, which ought to be fine for wrong-turns (in fact, I'd expect them to do this). They can also cache if you're on roaming but connected to wifi, or use other such heuristics to provide a seamless experience.

Tomtom ought to be worried. As had navigon. This means that basically all smartphones out there now ship with high-quality TBT navigation for free, out-of-the-box. Consumers spoke: they wanted better quality experiences and weren't prepared to pay the exorbitant costs of dinosaur companies trying to protect satnav revenue, thereby forcing new entrants in to the market (in this case, those that had most to gain: the OS vendors themselves). Consumers win.
 
id rather have them work on usability instead of adding random apps, yep ...

its 2012 and you still cannot turn off wifi/bluetooth from the homescreen or notification center for example.
the notification center on the iPad literally SCREAMS improvements as there isnt even weather to show so it looks very "un-apple".

and siri is still a "toy" to show off, they need to add more usability related commands

and here i thought iOS6 would stop me from jailbreaking ...


You are Always so negative!!
 
Who wants to bet that support for this outside America is going to be awful?

I suppose you would like to have them hold it from the market until every nook and cranny is covered? I'd rather get it ASAP and release updates as it's developed for the rest of the world.
 
pathetic update in my opinion, i know i'll get downvoted for that but i'll give you my reason.

all those "incredible" new features are just partnerships with other big companies and thats not what apple used to stand for. such a sell out :(

Yelp Yelp Yelp, Facebook, Twitter, did i mention Yelp? and Airlines
... SAD

it shows with those new siri commands "where does the movie xy play?" "heres a list of theaters ... by YELP" seriously, thats what they could come up with after all those months? how about implementing something thats actually useful to the USER like lets say "siri turn off wifi"
those features are also too focused on the US because you guessed it those "partnerships" and omg a "wallet app" like there arent tons like this already at the app store

and still no notification center api for the devs .... the not center looks just SAD and empty on the iPad.

this whole thing reminds me of Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook: "you are a customer and you can connect with people" which translates to "you are our product and we sell you to other companies"

those new features (id rather call them "improvements") on iOS6 are simply a platform to "sell" and just wrapped around and covered up nicely (again, a "like button" at the appstore proves this)

I like these changes. But I completely agree with the bolded. It would be wonderful to even say "Siri, mute iphone... Siri, decrease lighting 80%.."

Once my iphone (and Siri) is tied into my home thermal controls (NEST thermostat) and lighting (still to come...) I can say.. "Siri.. Turn down the ambient lighting 40%... Siri, it's too damn cold in here..." I think progress like this comes after the progress you mentioned in bold happens first.

We're so close to living on the Enterprise.
 
Not for iPhone 4? So basically I get a less tried-and-true Apple version of Google maps without the new features? What else does iOS 6 bring for us non iPhone 4S users then?
 
I assume, but didn't hear anything, that you can use this without having a wireless connection like you can with every other GPS app?

That was the one downside of Google Maps, was the necessity of having a decent signal.

Aside from pre caching, it's highly unlikely this will be the case for a long, long time...GPS applications only have certain countries depending on which you purchased due to the size of the files..this is supposed to be a universal Maps application...I don't think Apple will preload like 20 GB of map data. Even if Apple preloaded data based on purchase location, I don't think people would appreciate the 3 GB OS download as well as the extra space being taken up unless they have a choice.
 
Tomtom ought to be worried. As had navigon. This means that basically all smartphones out there now ship with high-quality TBT navigation for free, out-of-the-box. Consumers spoke: they wanted better quality experiences and weren't prepared to pay the exorbitant costs of dinosaur companies trying to protect satnav revenue, thereby forcing new entrants in to the market (in this case, those that had most to gain: the OS vendors themselves). Consumers win.

I'm sorry, I still like having the maps on my phone. Especially when I'm doing long road trips that go into many areas that don't have cellphone coverage. Apple and google's stuff is fine for in the city and short trips. But if you do any long driving or like to go out to more natural areas (like for hiking or other stuff), it's useless if you can't get the map or even download the map of a large area, not just small areas around. Or if you want to be able to randomly explore, your idea of only having a small cache of what's around kills the ability to explore and if you truly get lost know that your GPS can get you back.
 
This is stupid, can't get fly over or turn by turn directions on my iPhone 4 what the hell is the point of iOS 6 then? the iPhone 4 is more than capable of handling it.

iOS 6 is being created for the latest equipment, just as you can only get Thunderbolt on the latest equipment or automatic parallel parking on the latest Fords. If you design new features that will work on legacy products, you can't make it as good as they can be. It's like trying to win a sailboat race while dragging an anchor behind you. If you want to be in the lead, you have to remove the restrictions.
 
This is stupid, can't get fly over or turn by turn directions on my iPhone 4 what the hell is the point of iOS 6 then? the iPhone 4 is more than capable of handling it.

It is? My iPhone 4 is having problems being laggy with just the current OS. There are games I don't even bother trying to play with it cause it freaks out and has to pause way too much.

I really don't see it doing the 3D map, especially if it has to render as it goes (and it sounds like that is what they are having it do) very well at all. In this case I am actually wondering if this will be like back when they allowed iOS 4 on the 3G, where people whined the 3G could handle the features they weren't going to support on the 3G before it was out, and then you heard all the whining about how even with the handicapped iOS 4 they let on 3G how slow and laggy it was on iOS4 (so slow and laggy it was unusable. Of which I was totally not surprised cause my 3G was getting laggy even on iOS 3. Still usable but very noticeable. Kinda like my iPhone 4 is now on iOS 5). And then apple just did what they should have in the first place, stopped supporting the 3G cause it obviously couldn't handle it.

Anyways I plan on using my upgrade when the new iphone comes out. And I'll be hoping to see a good spec bump despite people sticking their nose up at it. The 3G and the 4 didn't get great processor speed upgrades and they seem to have gone irrelevant quicker (as I said, my 4 is acting like my 3G did before the new phone came out) and the 3GS and I am betting 4S seem to be staying relevant a lot longer and they got pretty good processor bumps.
 
iOS 6 is being created for the latest equipment, just as you can only get Thunderbolt on the latest equipment or automatic parallel parking on the latest Fords. If you design new features that will work on legacy products, you can't make it as good as they can be. It's like trying to win a sailboat race while dragging an anchor behind you. If you want to be in the lead, you have to remove the restrictions.

Turn by turn navigation doesn't need the latest and greatest hardware around. Hell, cheesy $150 GPS units have had it since years ago.
 
This sounds good. Hopefully they keep updating their maps and the turn by turn nav is good. Can't wait for the next iPhone. I'm long overdue for an upgrade.
 
The street view will be missed. But I am open to this new map app. I would like to see the Google version available to download too. I think getting turn by turn was the biggest advantage along with Siri integration.
 
Turn by turn navigation doesn't need the latest and greatest hardware around. Hell, cheesy $150 GPS units have had it since years ago.

In this case turn by turn nav is tied with Siri, and since Siri was the selling point for the 4S they are not going give Siri to the iPhone 4 users. iPhone 4 users should be ready for a 2 year upgrade from their cell phone providers.
 
The fact that it uses a vector based engine sounds interesting. I wonder if that means that instead of using raster tiles they now send the raw data to the phone, which then draws the map perfectly for the scale being shown, rather than stretching or squeezing a raster tile to fit.

This sounds a much better approach that should mean crisp maps at whatever scale rather than clarity being dependent upon how close the screen scale is to the tile scale.

It also offers the possibility of doing all sorts of clever things. For example with text positioning you could ensure that text is never partially off-screen, or move it to avoid being obscured by an annotation.

It might take some getting used to for users if some text moves as they pan, but it could be very handy. There are probably a lot of things like this that become possible with a vector based approach.

So even if it doesn't seem brilliant at first the fact that it has been completely rewritten should provide the flexibility to allow for some pretty clever things in the future. Hopefully.

Agreed, should make it much easier to cache and save the maps as well. I'm hoping that maps will be cached localaly to prevent data usage. Since it's vector data it shouldn't require to redownload at each zoom level etc.
 
The street view will be missed. But I am open to this new map app. I would like to see the Google version available to download too. I think getting turn by turn was the biggest advantage along with Siri integration.

Maybe Google will release a turn by turn nav app for iOS now. That would be good competition.
 
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