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Apple Launches Web Tool to Deregister Phone Numbers from iMessage
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No but user should not have to find an os device to do it.
So the user forgot. Their should be an easy way to remove your phone number from the web. This bug was in iOS when it was first released with iMessage. So yes this is 3 years over due and Apple finally did it because they got sued. This should of been done on day one.
Even the testing should not of taken 3 years.
Nope. It's a free service. After you leave WhatsApp, will WhatsApp route your message to Wechat ? Nope.
Use SMS or another (cross platform) messaging client.
3 years is of course for delivering all the new iMessage features, roll out to new telcos, and fixing bugs.
Inability or lack of desire to think for oneself. Perception is more important than reality for most people. Apple has managed to cultivate a brand image of being innovative and unique, and people feel like buying it's products means that they are also innovate and unique. Sadly, that couldn't be further from the truth. Buying the exact same product as 100 million other people is not "thinking different." However with all of it's product lines, Apple offers so few options that people don't have to make decisions for themselves, and that's one of the major selling points.
It's also funny that despite cultivating that image, Apple takes great lengths to prevent anyone else from innovating on their platforms. App shortcuts in the notification center - no that's an abuse of the intention of widgets. So, it's not malicious in any way, it's completely optional, and users love it, but we don't like it, so no one can have it. Yep, Apple really embraces "think different."
Yeah not talking about the other features. We are talking about a major design flaw. Any one defending apple for taking 3 years on this major design flaw and oversight is showing themselves to be a major apple fanboy.
If it required that much testing remove a phone number from iMessage. A system that never tied into the carry SMS on intercepting messages. All it did was override other iDevices of it saw a phone number and rout it threw apple's system.
So yes this is something that is long over due and 3 years late.
Apple should not be praised for finally giving us this tool but burned for taking this long. This should of been a day one thing. Now a dating over 1000.
There is no design flaw here. WhatsApp and other messaging services can't reroute messages to ex-users too, say if those users join iMessage or Wechat.
Even with this new tool, the sender will still need to turn on SMS to deliver to other messaging platforms. Or have both senders and receivers join another messaging service.
It is most definitely not a day one thing. It's a user problem.
Fixing that problem has to be scheduled amongst other tasks. And of course require much testing together with all those changes.
Never said it was a one day thing fix. I am saying that this should of been done at release. This is a design flaw. Apple screwed up. Now the fans are defending them in taking this long.There is no design flaw here. WhatsApp and other messaging services can't reroute messages to ex-users too, say if those users join iMessage or Wechat.
Even with this new tool, the sender will still need to turn on SMS to deliver to other messaging platforms. Or have both senders and receivers join another messaging service.
It is most definitely not a day one thing. It's a user problem.
No matter how you cut it 3 years for this is 3 years to late.
Nope. It is just out of scope like how WhatsApp can't deliver to Wechat. End of story.
Plus, iMessage is now rated by EFF as the most secure mainstream comma service. To achieve that, they naturally need to have both ends on iPhone too.
We're in the wrong place buddy.
It's really amazing how Apple is able to get so many people to blindly defend them on every issue, when they obviously don't give two ****** about any of their customers.
We're charging a $200 markup for a part that costs us less than $10. TLC memory is 50 cents cheaper, it's more volatile, but 50 cents times 30 million units, well that works out pretty well for us. Then when it causes massive problems, well we could do a recall, but then we'd be replacing all of the phones that we put ******* components in. It's cheaper for us to just deny the problem and only replace phones if people complain about it alot. We can also remove posts from our UK forums informing people that they are legally entitled to warranty replacement. We can probably convince most people that the problem is their fault.
While other companies focus on advancing technology, Apple focuses on social manipulation, and sadly that is the more profitable route to take. It doesn't spell good things for the future.
You still are missing the point and blowing smoke with features and missing the design oversight and the bug itself. A issue that is should of never been released and sure as hell should not take 3 years to fix.
iMessage is designed very well. It's purpose is to disrupt with encryption, any messaging that is Apple to Apple. Be it a hacker, a Govt. agency, or an Android user. The IFF just rated iMessage and Face Time the two most secure Mass Media Messaging apps in public use.
Apple knew exactly what they were doing. The Class Action Lawsuit was a slam dunk. Apple blinked. So what? It's the way it works in the Tech Industry. When it's Apple it's alway a BIG DEAL. Everyone else gets a " oops, that was a wild error."
Get used to it. Just read the GT contract (that Apple never really signed).
You thought SJ was a Hard Ass? Move over , because Tim will take your business and your 1st Born Child.
That's why you have choice. It's life. It's not changing. Assimilate, or move on.
Hey I have a thought perhaps Apple's first priority wasn't people who left the platform or maybe it thought people had enough sense to follow instructions.
Apple is hijacking the most mainstream form of communication with iMessage - the phone number. That is very different from other OTT services like Whatsapp. Whatsapp uses your phone number, yet it's an entirely separate interface. Sending and receiving text messages from any other SMS texting app will continue to function normally whether or not you delete Whatsapp. What Apple is doing is very different because it hijacks the interface used to send SMS and automatically sends iMessage instead to other iPhones. That's fine, but one of the implications of doing that is that from day one you need to create a way to opt out. Otherwise, once someone starts using the service they can never go back to using the the most mainstream form of communication available. Being that the decision between iMessage and SMS is made in a seamless, automatic fashion, Apple is absolutely obligated to create a clear way out.
Apple didn't have to have iMessage use a phone number as the identifier, they could have used anything else. They chose to do so because it would require no user intervention. In making that choice, they also accepted the responsibility of allowing people to leave the service. It should have been the number one priority when the service was created. Blocking a person's main form of communication is not a trivial matter.
You are the one who's missing the point. WhatsApp, Wechat, iMessage, etc. can't reroute messages to a non-user.
Turn on SMS or use another messaging tool where both parties can run.
All this web tool provide is just to allow users to unregistered from iMessage after they got rid of the phone.
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It's taken care of when the user turns on SMS.
No one is blocked. The ex-user can't receive his msg because SMS is off. Use another tool or turn on SMS.
Exactly. This Web tool is 3 years overdue. Removing your number should of been a way to do it with out another idevice.
Thus Web tool is 3 years late
You can't use logic with these people. I had this problem twice. I followed all the instructions and did so again on the phone with apple, it took a while to sort it out.
The second time it happened was when I tested my cell service with my sons iphone (he was using without a sim). I was trying to troubleshoot cell signal in my house and I put my SIM card in his phone for 30 seconds just to see the strength. My phone number was hijacked, and I found out 2 days later when my Ex Wife called me yelling screaming because my Girlfriend was texting my son. All my messages were going to my son for about 2 weeks. I ended up just changing my phone number.
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Why do we need this ? I didn't think anyone would be foolish enough to want to switch to another brand after using an iPhone 6 or 6+ .
.Do you have any knowledge of or experience with this problem? Since what you just said makes no sense.
"because SMS is off" being that the en-user is using a different phone and trying to receive SMS, it should be a given that SMS is turned on on their new phone.
Are you referring to the iPhone user sending the message to the ex-iPhone user and the "Send as SMS" option on the iPhone users phone? If so, realize that the majority of iPhone users have no idea what iMessage is. They don't know that they are sending iMessages to some people and SMS to others because it is all done through the same interface. You're suggesting that the ex-user should have to contact every one of their likely hundreds of contacts who may or may not have iPhones and tell them that they need to manually change a setting on their phone for a problem they aren't personally experiencing? Ridiculous
When Apple decided to build their service on top of someone else's service, and in this case the most mainstream service in existence, they accepted the responsibility of providing a clear and quick method of leaving their service. Asking hundreds of people to manually change a setting on their phone is quite obviously not that.
