Apple Launches WWDC 2016 Ticket Lottery

[Dave245]

Apple have just announced new 12" MacBooks, so they won't be announced at WWDC http://9to5mac.com/2016/04/19/apple...new-processors-rose-gold-better-battery-life/

 

[smacrumon]

//func WWDC(){ //Can I even afford this?
// let price = 1599
// let canAfford = False
//}
func Apple(){
let isEvil = True
}

 

[bbeagle]

$1600 a pop. Are you feaking kidding me ? Why would any sentient being pay any money at all to sit there like robots, whooping on cue, and have huge mounds of steaming BS poured all over you ? Or be in the same hemisphere as Ive.

Obviously, you don't have a clue what this conference is about.

It's for the people who are developing App Store apps, and need help either with coding issues (something doesn't work or they don't understand how to get it to work), or with resource or networking issues (I have a great idea, I need to find some good programmers I can find at the conference. A lot better than putting out ads and interviewing people). Or to find other friends/acquaintances to discuss programming issues with, and get better.

It's basically going to a year's worth of college crammed into one week if you're a programmer.

 

[Jeremy1026]

You do know it's not just 2 hours of listening to executives talk, but rather 5 days of hands on training sessions directly with Apple engineers. You're not paying for the keynote. Most people that go don't care about the keynote. People go for the networking and hands on training. The cost of conference pays for itself many times over for many people that attend.

As has been pointed out multiple times now, all good professional conferences are in this price range (or more).

Well, 3 and half days of hands on learning. No sessions on Monday and Friday afternoon is a ghost town.

 

[galrito]

$1600 a pop. Are you feaking kidding me ? Why would any sentient being pay any money at all to sit there like robots, whooping on cue, and have huge mounds of steaming BS poured all over you ? Or be in the same hemisphere as Ive.

If you're complaining about the price, you're not part of the intended target.

 

[Mikaelous]

Between the clear developer oriented design in this invitation, and the recent relabeling to MacOS, I wonder if Apple is finally going to make the iOS core libraries available for use in MacOS. As a developer I can start with an iOS app and easily modify it to become a watchOS and tvOS app. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple did the same with this new MacOS, allowing a developer to simply modify their existing app using MacOS APIs.

Of course the current iOS core libraries are designed for ARM processors, but if Apple did it right (virtualization likely, just like Rosetta), this could also mean ARM based Macs eventually as well, with an Mac App catalog already in place.

 

[guzhogi]

Forgive my ignorance, but is this truly a random lottery, or are certain types of people given priority (i.e. people who've gone before, people who haven't, etc.)? Just curious

 

[JCoe13]

https://developer.apple.com/wwdc/

"Hello driver, as fast as you can."

Car announcement?

Doubt it, the list of hello statements all relate to apps, not devices

 

[mrgraff]

Does anyone know how to apply for the STEM scholarships? As a student and employee of a college, I might be able to convince them to pay for the travel and lodging but not the additional $1600.

Update: I figured it out via a simple Google search; I probably don't have sufficient Apple platform programming experience to qualify though.

 

[Tech198]

everyone's a winner... usually

 

[Shirasaki]

I remember when it took days to sell all the tickets… then hours… then minutes… and finally seconds to sell out. Crazy!

So they now use lottery system to randomly sell those tickets.

 

[galrito]

If I didn't have to support iOS 5 on some apps I'd have already migrated my codebase to Swift

Yikes! Be strong, my friend.

 

[Shirasaki]

The font and colour scheme of WWDC is by far my favourite, and most attractive.
And I cannot wait anytime sooner to see how iOS 10 works on my iPhone 6s Plus.

 

[Jakexb]

Who, if anyone, is programming in SWIFT? Better yet, who, if anyone, is programming in SWIFT as a part of their job?

A lot of people actually. At work we're rewriting our whole app in Swift.

 

[kayloh20]

$1600 a pop. Are you feaking kidding me ? Why would any sentient being pay any money at all to sit there like robots, whooping on cue, and have huge mounds of steaming BS poured all over you ? Or be in the same hemisphere as Ive.

That's why I hate the lottery system. Some people pay that much just to do what you described. In reality, the conference spans an entire week (if you notice the dates) with developer sessions and direct interaction with Apple engineers.

I kind of wish that there were two types of tickets...one for the keynote only and one for the rest of the week. It's not like the media can report on what goes on during the week due to confidentiality agreements.

 

[nt5672]

That's what I hate, all the different stuff they are doing. I hope this years WWDC will blow us out of the water.

I am just afraid that there will be a lot of bling and not much substance. It seems Marketing has taken over from engineering lately. Hopefully, I am proved wrong.

Of course we'll see Swift 3.0 beta (with rewritten core libraries) and maybe that will fix a lot of latent Objective-C bugs that no one has taken the time to fix.
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Who, if anyone, is programming in SWIFT? Better yet, who, if anyone, is programming in SWIFT as a part of their job?

We are, all apps moving to swift for any modifications and new Apps are Swift. It is a much better, but not perfect language than objective-c.

 

[chrono1081]

Who, if anyone, is programming in SWIFT? Better yet, who, if anyone, is programming in SWIFT as a part of their job?

Many people. I'm learning it as we speak because all the jobs I'm looking at want Swift knowledge.

 

[FreakinEurekan]

Crikey. I read this comment and all I see is someone butthurt at the prospect of a world outside the US.

I doubt it. An American would have said "Apple IS done". Phrasing "Apple ARE done" is more likely UK.

 

[6836838]

It is not expensive, since it is a 5 day conference and you can get in touch with Apple engineers during the hands on labs. Sure you can watch the sessions on your own, but you'd miss the opportunity to meet other developers as well as people from Apple.
If I lived in California I'd enter the lottery immediately but I live in Europe so I'd have to pay at least the airplane ticket and maybe an hotel, so it would be really expensive.

Surely if you live in Europe you'll be paying for an aeroplane ticket? What's this 'airplane' you speak of!

Apple, please fix the bad UK English on my mac devices. I'd like an Aeroplane Mode please. Been waiting YEARS for this fix.
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$1600 a pop. Are you feaking kidding me ? Why would any sentient being pay any money at all to sit there like robots, whooping on cue, and have huge mounds of steaming BS poured all over you ? Or be in the same hemisphere as Ive.

How else do they keep out those Android plebs?
[doublepost=1461083567][/doublepost]Dark Mode confirmed.

 

[CFreymarc]

If you can't figure out how to get something like auto-focus to work properly in your app, you get to talk to the actual person who designed that API. And he will help you fix your app, which you can then turn around and make money with on the app store. That alone is worth the $1599. Something you might have spent 2-3 weeks trying to solve can be solved in 20 minutes. Time is money.

I'll agree there. One WWDC a while ago, an MFi developer I know was having a lot of questions about the iAP transport over the Lightning port. He found out the engineer he was talking to was one of the engineers that wrote the iAP transport stack! It ended up working into an hour long conversation that eventually became a "posh" of several Apple engineers and attendees talking about the iAP transport. From that talk several things came about in later iOS releases. Many fellow MFi developers said that hour long talk was worth the price of admission itself.
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I can't verify what he said, but I've been professionally developing stuff for Apple technologies since 2006 and I'm glad to use Swift now. I love its simplicity and safety.

The biggest complaints I have heard about Swift is exactly what you consider a merit. Detractors have said the language is "too safe" where when you really start pushing avant-garde functionality, the compiler starts to fight you. One saving grace is there's no forced obsolesce of previous languages. Xcode still supports C code and even ARM assembly (yes, I have seen hand written ARM assembly in some apps) for a project.
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Apple, please fix the bad UK English on my mac devices. I'd like an Aeroplane Mode please. Been waiting YEARS for this fix.

This is an uphill battle since the early Mac days. UK / Commonwealth localization has been and off and on supported considering who is available to do the job. Be happy you have Siri in a British accent. Some want Siri to check the GPS position in the UK and shift to local accents such as going from London to Liverpool to Manchester. Then there are those that want Scottish to English translation.
[doublepost=1461086883][/doublepost]

I remember when it took days to sell all the tickets… then hours… then minutes… and finally seconds to sell out. Crazy!

I remember WWDCs that didn't sell out and you could pay at the conference desk to attend.
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Who, if anyone, is programming in SWIFT? Better yet, who, if anyone, is programming in SWIFT as a part of their job?

The TIOBE index is a good one to follow.

http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index

However, that is for mostly non-professional, academic and hobbyist projects. A lot of production code is confidential inside commercial companies and things such as what language is used and how the code is structured are trade secrets. All that said, TIOBE is a good trend monitor. As of this month, it still says Obj-C use is ahead of Swift.

Apple has the means to monitor what apps submitted to the store is written in Swift vs. Objective-C. That fact those statistics have yet to be released tells me Obj-C still has majority use.

 

[Mr. Awesome]

What font is the logo? Trying to copycat it.

 

[CFreymarc]

What font is the logo? Trying to copycat it.

It looks like the default font showing source code in Xcode. That would be Menlo Regular.

 

[Alenore]

Who, if anyone, is programming in SWIFT? Better yet, who, if anyone, is programming in SWIFT as a part of their job?

I'm actually going to try to use Swift for a small project very soon.
If not, either I'll go JS, either I'll try Xamarin.
What I know for sure is, I'm so done with Objective C.

 

[CFreymarc]

interesting that the keynote is at Bill Graham Civic Auditorium

The last few keynotes became a traffic and safety hazard at Moscone West as people were in line overnight. It attracted vagrants that is part of SF night life. There were a few incidents that Apple does not want to happen again.

The BG Civic Auditorium is well set up to handle large crowds and large lines for the concerts and events this place hosts year round. It is a more suited venue for such an event. The seating is tiered in a theater setting instead of the flat floors of the Moscone center for better stage presence.
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Blizzard Ent. is for the next expansion of World of Warcraft coming out Aug. 30th.

Someone broke or compromised an NDA by disclosure!

 

[Peace]

The last few keynotes became a traffic and safety hazard at Moscone West as people were in line overnight. It attracted vagrants that is part of SF night life. There were a few incidents that Apple does not want to happen again.

The BG Civic Auditorium is well set up to handle large crowds and large lines for the concerts and events this place hosts year round. It is a more suited venue for such an event. The seating is tiered in a theater setting instead of the flat floors of the Moscone center for better stage presence.
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Someone broke or compromised an NDA by disclosure!

Not at all. Blizzard said this in one of their forum posts about 4 months ago. It's common knowledge in the Blizzard community.