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What mistake was made with launching the 5s and 5c exactly? ...

Given the 5S the more expensive model sold
more I can't see any? If the pattern follows the 5"5 inch phone will sell more too.

There may be a delay but we seen with the iPad mini they still announced the retina one but delayed it by a month or so. They will probably say the 4"7 inch how would be out next week then maybe October/November for the next one.

No way would they use the second event for it as they will have the Iwatch and new iPads to announce.
 
I don't think this is an accurate analogy tho. The MacBook Air & pro are very different laptops. The iphone 6, 4.7" & 5.5" are basically gonna be the same phone but just different sizes.

Fair point. And when the 15" MacBook Pro is updated we DO expect a 13" update.
 
The 5c failed because it was an appalling product and rubbish value for money compared to the 5s. Nothing to do with timing of release lol.

It's not failed. Initially pre orders were low contract prices were high.

You can get one in the UK for £22 on a contract now. Everybody I see has the 5C over 5S now. All I see is 5C phones so I suspect when later sales are announced they will have sold quite a few.
 
How long for the delay ?

Will the 5.5" model be relese in December ?

Otherwise people will wait for the 6S version... :rolleyes:
 
Also apple can't afford anymore delays. They have not announced any new hardware this year. The 4"7 inch won't see as much as people would hold off for a lager one. People need a choice from launch day.
 
I don't like this. Making 5.5 inch fans wait an extra few months every launch and be behind the tech curve.

I hope the 5.5 has better specs/features if this is the case...
 
Disappointing if true. Many other companies seem to have the ability and desire to roll out different models of the same product. I think apple is misreading the public on this. Those that want a larger iPhone won't be buying the smaller one and vice versa
 
When has Apple cared about competition between its own products? As long as you buy Apple they don't care what you get. If anything, waiting to release a potential 5.5" iPhone will cause people to delay purchasing any iPhone which could hurt initial sales. This makes no sense.

Besides, the 5.5" iPhone is the biggest unicorn yet. No parts leaks, just a myth perpetuated by ill-informed analysts.
 
What mistake was made with launching the 5s and 5c exactly? ...

The issue there was that people thought the 5C (c=cheap) was going to be an inexpensive model, instead it was just an iPhone 5 in a colored enclosure, without any meaningful price reduction. People were disappointed based on the prevalent rumors.
 
Funny story.

Let's assume it's true and the September event will look like this:

"Look, the amazing iPhone 6 with a 4.7" screen in the highest quality."
"It has 1234x987 resultion, because we decided it's a great resolution."
"It has 1GB of RAM and upto 64GB storage."

(Audience waits ... and waits.)

"And that's it ... thank you, you are great."

Then, we will all wait for the 5.5", because

- A standard resolution would be great news.
- A bigger battery because of the larger form factor would be brilliant.
- Will there be storage options for the 5.5" higher than for the 4.7"

People will be mad as hell if there's no word from Apple, even if they say they don't talk about unannounced products.

A MacBook is totally different story, there are always storage, RAM and display options that are predictable. (Except for the rumored 12" model).

It really doesn't matter what they do, but I think they cannot risk to not talk about the 5.5" and introduce it 6 month later.

Even if people don't want one, they at least want to know their options.

I wouldn't buy a 4k Samsung if rumors would tell that Samsung will solve lots os issues in a model they are already testing.

So: Either the story is bull, or Apple will talk about it.
Everything else will be a PR disaster.
 
this is BS. There is no competition because no one is going to buy both regardless. If they release the 4.7" first people will buy it (for less money) and then will just be pissed off that they can't get the 5.5" when it comes out because they aren't eligible for a hardware upgrade anymore
 
So does Apple (allegedly) think everyone gets the 5,5" version if they are released at the same time? Or the other way around?

Wouldn't people buy the version they want, if they had the choice?

You always have to let the people know which your primary flagship-phone is.
Many just want to have newest iphone top model, they dont choose by size that fits to their use. If they buy the 4.7" instead of 5.5" iphone, they might feel like not having the TOP-product.

I am sure the 5.5" will be released later with the ipads and renamed to iphone "air" or something like that.
 
What mistake was made with launching the 5s and 5c exactly? ...

The mistake was giving the customer too many choices. This goes back to the first model year of the Model T Ford. They actually had many colors to choose from. That color difference made would be customers hesitant to buy.

The second model year the old "You can have any color you want as long as it is black." came into being. This was the cheapest color of all they had, kept production to a minium and sold more cars.

The 5S and 5C had many buy the 5S over the 5C since all was "new" leaving the 5C with less volume sold. My take is that we will see the 6 with colors of gold, silver and space gray.

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It's not failed. Initially pre orders were low contract prices were high.

You can get one in the UK for £22 on a contract now. Everybody I see has the 5C over 5S now. All I see is 5C phones so I suspect when later sales are announced they will have sold quite a few.

It may be the VAT over there, but in the Bay Area, you see a lot more 5S and the 5C is somewhat considered a junior or second-class iPhone.
 
Let's assume it's true and the September event will look like this:

"Look, the amazing iPhone 6 with a 4.7" screen in the highest quality."
"It has 1234x987 resultion, because we decided it's a great resolution."
"It has 1GB of RAM and upto 64GB storage."

(Audience waits ... and waits.)

"And that's it ... thank you, you are great."

Then, we will all wait for the 5.5", because

- A standard resolution would be great news.
- A bigger battery because of the larger form factor would be brilliant.
- Will there be storage options for the 5.5" higher than for the 4.7"

People will be mad as hell if there's no word from Apple, even if they say they don't talk about unannounced products.

A MacBook is totally different story, there are always storage, RAM and display options that are predictable. (Except for the rumored 12" model).

It really doesn't matter what they do, but I think they cannot risk to not talk about the 5.5" and introduce it 6 month later.

Even if people don't want one, they at least want to know their options.

I wouldn't buy a 4k Samsung if rumors would tell that Samsung will solve lots os issues in a model they are already testing.

So: Either the story is bull, or Apple will talk about it.
Everything else will be a PR disaster.

Like being upset at Apple has hurt overall sales. At times, Apple customers are in a codependent relationship accepting all the drama that comes with owning such a fashion statement of a product.

I have known and worked with Ferrari and Lamborghini owners. The drama they have with their cars, repair bills and occasional oddities of their exotics are part and parcel owning such a beauty.

Some would say trophy wives are the same way.
 
If launch day comes and goes with no mention of a 5.5 inch iPhone, they'll be bombarded with questions about it, online, and in stores. To deny such a phone, and then come out with it a couple of months later would create so much bad will with customers, I'm sure they'll have a better plan thought out.

(Not that I'm even remotely interested in such a monstrous beast, but I know many others are, and they'll be vocal about it I'm sure!)

This is spot on. There is too much interest in the 5.5 to simply ignore it or make no mention of it, and in the case that it simply doesn't exist the rumor of it's existence will prove somewhat damaging.
 
Well that would just be dumb. If they announce a future larger phone then those who want it will wait. If they don't announce it and then release it later, those that wanted it and went for the smaller one will feel cheated. There is no way to do this and leave customers feeling anything but cheated. If this proves to be true then it will show that short term profit has become king at Apple.

Perhaps the legendary logistics guy (Cook) was burned last year with the C and has now come up with an ar#e-about-face way of fixing it. Or perhaps this is just fanciful speculation.
 
I'm guessing the bigger one will be mostly for the Asian market.
So, the 4.7" for Christmas, the 5.5" for Chinese New Year.
 
That would be totally and utterly stupid.

What's the point in delaying it? So that people who would have preferred the larger model instead buy the smaller one and are not as satisfied with their purchase? Utter baloney. I don't believe a word of it.

This report is claiming that Apple will delay the product... why? Because they think it will be too popular? Eh? Apple doesn't care which iPhone you buy, as long as you buy an iPhone.

Apple has never cared about internal competition (a.k.a. cannibalisation) before. If people buy one of their other products because they like that better, great. Why should Apple not be happy with that or try to affect that decision?
 
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