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Apple Likely Aiming for Late October Launch of Redesigned MacBook Pro

"How does a computer company completely ignore it's top of the line Mac Pro for THREE years"

Because it's not a computer company anymore. It's a phone and gadget company that sometimes makes computers. Computers that are more and more like phones and gadgets.
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lulla01 said:
Its been a broken record with the same rumors for the past 5 months, no new updates or leaks.
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5 months.... I'd say easily 2 years- I got tired of waiting and bought a second-hand 2014 rMBP and with the spare cash, bought a 4k external monitor. Happy.
 
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USB-c will be the port for all until then, there will be that transitional period. Lets see how long it takes.

Technology moves faster than ever than the last big known at least for me (besides computing) is the TV a/v cables to HDMI. Old legacy cables to one port (hdmi) that does both audio and video. That took a good 5-10 years for everyone including people who are 60+ to know what they are now.

Same thing will happen, we'll see how long it takes. I do wish the SD card was around, as it is nice to increase the storage with an adapter as well a transferring images from my camera.
I have been using my Macbook Retina with just the USB-C just fine. Just trying to find a good hub, since I already went through a handful of USB-c cables and finally set on a good one. I'll save you guys the trouble of ordering with trial and error. https://www.amazon.com/CharJen/b/re...183174011&field-lbr_brands_browse-bin=CharJen

It's definitely be a interesting time and see what happens with so many USB-A peripherals. Lots of adapters and hubs in the works. It'll be a long time when USB-c to USB-c will ever to the only cable to use. Even for wireless, a charge pad has to connect to the wall socket some how.
 
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Man, this is the hardest experience I've had waiting for something. Even harder than when you've starved all day to eat at your favorite restaurant in the evening and the waiter takes forever.

I really want to see the new MBP already. It feels like it's been forever.
 
jonnysods said:
I read this article and I'm just depressed. Not even a sniff of anything yet.
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I'm slightly shocked we have not heard of any possible announcements/rumors yet this month and we are through the first week of October. If no announcements are made by the 21st or so, then it's looking rather bleak.
 
Relentless Power said:
I'm slightly shocked we have not heard of any possible announcements/rumors yet this month and we are through the first week of October. If no announcements are made by the 21st or so, then it's looking rather bleak.
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There are some people saying October 27th due to the rescheduled earnings call, including John Gueber.

If November comes then they are likely not coming this year.
 
I think Touch ID is confirmed in that picture - all the other keys are in, and the power button ought to be no different to them. All that's missing is the glass OLED bar, of which the glass Touch ID button will likely be a part of/attached to (working as an Apple engineer, it's rare for small parts like that to be separate part installations).
 
gianton said:
It should be released before Christmas (my hope anyways).
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I think it has to. Regardless of all the positive sales data generated by the iPhone 7 so far, once the early adopters, and enthusiastic photographers buying the 7 Plus, sales are likely going to be down over Apple's 2016 1st quarter, especially with the Apple Watch 2 sales reportedly slow. In order for Apple to give credible positive guidance for the 1st quarter, they are going to need to count on millions of MBP sales from pent up demand announced prior to the earnings call.
 
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Mac 128 said:
I think it has to. Regardless of all the positive sales data generated by the iPhone 7 so far, once the early adopters, and enthusiastic photographers buying the 7 Plus, sales are likely going to be down over Apple's 2016 1st quarter, especially with the Apple Watch 2 sales reportedly slow. In order for Apple to give credible positive guidance for the 1st quarter, they are going to need to count on millions of MBP sales from pent up demand announced prior to the earnings call.
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Just read this which covers what you're saying.
 
HRoland said:
If it's gonna have 4 USB-C ports and a headphone jack only, than it absolutely won't deserve the "Pro" tag...

Everyone prepare for #USBGate, #SDCardGate, #MagSafeGate and #HDMIGate…
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If they do not offer close to 1.25 TB drive or I cannot easily use my SD card I'll have to seriously petition my boss to be able to go off the company's techie standard and onto PC - I'm so sick of lack of storage options in their 'pro' offering.
 
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"Apple likely missing late October launch of, well, anything. Would you like an iPhone? We made extra-special shiny black for you. We think you're going to love it."
 
Darryl.Jenks said:
"Apple likely missing late October launch of, well, anything. Would you like an iPhone? We made extra-special shiny black for you. We think you're going to love it."
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The window has completely shut for an October rollout but it is closing rather quickly at this point.
 
lowkey said:
Right, so you're almost certain that the wedge shaped Air body is going to get much thicker by making the front as thick as the back? LOL. I seriously doubt it.
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Macbook Air won't get an update.
The regular macbook weighs less then an "air", thus there is no longer a point for it.
 
Is there any info/rumors about the hard drive size on the new model? Even the high-end MBP only comes with 512 GB SSD, which seems ridiculous. As does the +$450 upgrade fee if you want a 1TB instead on the current model.
 
At this point, the longer we wait for updated hardware the better. If Apple does not release new MBPs this month, then I think Apple will skip Skylake altogether. The question would then be, with what will Apple upgrade their notebook line? Intel or AMD?

I am beginning to think Apple may shift to AMD for several reasons:

1) Apple's reputation has suffered somewhat in PC circles for failing to update its lines to Skylake. Skylake had a major CPU bug. Intel admitted as much, Microsoft suffered for its adoption of Skylake in its Surface Book Pros, and Apple chose to wait for Intel's revision (=Kaby Lake), a wait that has taken a long time.

2) Apple wants a simple, thin design. For this reason, Apple wants to continue (perhaps requires) using SOC designs. If the rumors are true that Intel is no longer producing SOCs with Iris Pro, then Apple may decide to use AMD's APUs. With the loss of an Iris Pro option, Apple loses its SOC option for its high end MBP systems.

3) Apple prefers hardware parity across its lineups. Intel's decision to release Iris Pro chipsets at the end of a design cycle throws Apple's update cycle into disarray and while most customers would never know the difference in chipsets, the broad scope of release for hardware updates may cause problems for Apple with regard to OS X development and hardware obsolescence (see next point). For Apple to tote new OS X features, hardware parity in its lineup is a requirement.

4) Apple is shifting its focus from CPUs to GPUs and I/O. Current CPUs can handle most consumer tasks without breaking a sweat--even Core M CPUs handle most consumer tasks easily (though not necessarily prosumer or professional tasks). In fact, increases in CPU performance are mostly from die shrinks and increases in frequency. The reason to upgrade from any system to Kaby Lake, for example, is not the 5-10% increase in CPU performance from one generation to the next, but rather the new I/O (e.g., ability to use Optane, TB3 integration) or the increase in GPU performance (new hardware decode/encode abilities).

5) Apple approaches their system design holistically. AMD has been behind Intel in terms of performance; however, with the upcoming release of Zen and Vega, that performance gap looks to decrease considerably. Intel CPUs may even continue to outperform AMD CPUs on a clock-for-clock basis in synthetic benchmarks, but Apple is looking at the performance of the whole. Even if Apple takes a minor step backwards in performance with the current AMD APUs (as it did when it transitioned from PPC CPUs to Intel's Core Duo CPUs), the future for AMD APUs looks bright.
 
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Mac 128 said:
I totally get the SD card dilemma. But HDMI doesn't seem like that big of an issue now that USB supports HDMI natively. And I think people are fooling themselves over the USB 3 port need. USB devices are all the same, with a half-dozen different kinds of connector ports themselves. So USB-C is just a different cable. No matter what, as USB-C proliferates, everywhere a person goes, they are going to encounter USB-C ports incompatible with the legacy USB 3 connectivity they are attempting to maintain. So switch now, or later, it's going to become a problem either way. Might as well step up sooner.

The headphone jack doesn't appear to be going away with this next model update, except possibly the Retina MB. Mag Safe is gone however -- MacBooks are so light now, and the MBP if going to get lighter, that it doesn't even really work. The MB is more likely to get pulled off a table before the MagSafe disconnects. And they probably will add Lighting to replace it, and provide a few more options for native compatibility with Lightning headphones, as well as optional charging and data ports.
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I hear you on USB - that's not that big of a deal for me. It's the absence of the other ports. If the world is going to USB-C so be it (in place of the traditional USB) but as someone who does a TON of videography and photography, I like the convenience of the SD slot. I guess I could migrate to a lighting to 3.5" plug headphone set up but I want to keep my analog cans so I wish they'd just leave the darn port on there. Add lightning if you will, but don't can a port that probably costs Apple $3 in parts.
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Branflaakes said:
I do enough photography to know about interchangeable lens and sensor size being the biggest proponent to image quality. However, that WASN'T my question. I'm saying why 90% of "photographers" on THIS website think that 90% of the rMBP demographic hobby photographers. Even though I've done years of hobby photography, I know that most users aren't going to use the SD slot and WiFi transfer is the future, and it doesn't inhibit much.
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Wifi transfer certainly isn't the present. Not on the computer, not on the phone. When I transfer files from my cameras for web upload via my phone I have a lightning to SD card adapter--in all of my camera cases. Why? Because the wifi options and apps (via camera manufacturers) are painfully slow and awkward. On my Mac it's actually even worse on both counts. No thank you...SD card slot is just fine.
 
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