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The 16 Plus' 60Hz displayed also used a lot more power than the Air's 120Hz will, due to the lack of being able to ramp down to 1Hz.

I still fully do NOT expect 16 Pro/Plus battery life in day to day life on the Air however.
Yeah, maybe, but it’s not like 120hz regular Pro models destroyed the Plus… in fact, the 16 Pro allegedly matches the 16 Plus.

We haven’t seen that across the board. We’ll see, but I’m not expecting it to be as good as the Plus.
 
My iPhone 5S lasted all day with a battery half the size of the iPhone Air. Why are phones less efficient now?
The 5s was infinitely worse. I got, with the same usage, 6-7 hours of SOT at best. I’m getting 27 with the 16 Plus. There’s no comparison really.
 
You’re saying the 16 Plus is only 29% more efficient than the 5s. That is a comparison really.
A bit more. 2.99 times larger battery for a battery life that’s 4.15 times better, or about 38% more efficient.

Which is exactly why I have low confidence in Apple’s number. So… the A18 on my 16 Plus is 38% more efficient than the A7 on the 5s…

And you’re (Apple is) saying that the A19 on the 17 Air is 33% more efficient than… the A18 on the 16 Plus?

Like I said… I have my reservations.
 
The iPhone Air would be useless with only a 2,800 mAh battery based on earlier rumors. The fact it's got a 3,149 mAh battery plus the power efficiencies of the A19 Pro SoC, C1X modem and N1 I/O chip means battery life that could surprisingly equal the iPhone 17 in normal use.
 
On battery level alone yes, in total package, not for me it isn't. The 17 is thinner, lighter, has thinner bezels it seems (the same display yet is smaller in width and height) and it's 360€ cheaper. My 15 Pro has 90% battery health and still lasts me all day. Only reason I'm not lookinh at the Air is it's even bigger.
i would buy it in a heartbeat if it had 10gb or 12gb of ram..as it stands, with apple intelligence using 3gb when invoked, it's just not viable
 
The UK gets two hours less battery life than the US!

Can you point to a source? So far, the only thing saying this is a Macrumors thread pointing to a Chinese regulatory website.

It does makes sense that they could put a slightly bigger battery in the eSIM-only versions, but on the other hand it would also make sense for Apple not to bother with different batteries, as it'll make battery replacement tricky if someone has a phone bought in a different country.
 
Not the person you're replying to but just to name a few.

Physical sim cards on all, black pro model, touch id under screen, silicon carbon batteries for higher capacity in same form factor, split screen multitasking in the os, USB 3.0 standard on all models, easily replaceable battery, headphone jack, expandable storage, slighty thicker, 16gb ram, black pro model, 80watt fast charging. Give Always on display better with customizations, dac on high end pro models, even higher refresh rate on high end models. Charger and headphones included in box.
An impressively long list of features that I couldn’t care less about.
 
Can you point to a source? So far, the only thing saying this is a Macrumors thread pointing to a Chinese regulatory website.

It does makes sense that they could put a slightly bigger battery in the eSIM-only versions, but on the other hand it would also make sense for Apple not to bother with different batteries, as it'll make battery replacement tricky if someone has a phone bought in a different country.

iPhone 17 Pro
Video playback

Up to 33 hours

Video playback (streamed)
Up to 30 hours


iPhone 17 Pro
Video playback

Up to 31 hours

Video playback (streamed)
Up to 28 hours

 
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From Apple’s compare page, air with 3149 mAh lasts longer by 1hr than 16e with 4005 mAh, in both of the listed metrics of video playback and video streaming. I think reviews have shown that 16e battery life is pretty good?

I’m a bit sceptical because air’s display is 0.4in larger (despite being newer tech) and the battery is substantially smaller than 16e.

However, going by only what Apple listed on their site, the air might be not bad.
 
From Apple’s compare page, air with 3149 mAh lasts longer by 1hr than 16e with 4005 mAh, in both of the listed metrics of video playback and video streaming. I think reviews have shown that 16e battery life is pretty good?

I’m a bit sceptical because air’s display is 0.4in larger (despite being newer tech) and the battery is substantially smaller than 16e.

However, going by only what Apple listed on their site, the air might be not bad.
I think people underestimate the significance of Apple’s own radio chips. Lots of talk about the screen, but radios is a significant part of the power consumption. I see no reason the Air would not surpass 16e.
 
Can you point to a source? So far, the only thing saying this is a Macrumors thread pointing to a Chinese regulatory website.

It does makes sense that they could put a slightly bigger battery in the eSIM-only versions, but on the other hand it would also make sense for Apple not to bother with different batteries, as it'll make battery replacement tricky if someone has a phone bought in a different country.
just check the specs site https://www.apple.com/fr/iphone-17-pro/specs/

replace the code country with whatever you want
 
Thanks! Interesting to note that the UK model is 2g lighter too.

All the providers I use have eSIM as an option now, so that's kind of irritating that I can't (easily) buy an eSIM-only model. (I don't want the Air.)
it's no wonder, lithium-ion has near perfect scalability, so increasing the capacity results in a proportional weight gain
 
Can anyone explain to me why according to Apple the iPhone 17 Pro has only 1 hour longer battery life than the normal 17? How does that make any sense if the battery is that much bigger?
 
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