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Not sure what you are basing this on. You realize there is a lookalike email client out there called "OE Classic". No relation to Microsoft, it exists because there was a large enough audience of people who liked Outlook Express and didn't want to have to learn another program long after Microsoft stopped supporting it.

I did not realize that actually. My problem with Outlook Express was the way it stored mail and contact lists. Was a real pain to transfer to another computer compared to a PST file. Of course PST files had (have) their own issues.
 
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No, I highlighted what I wanted to highlight — the list is still there for you to enjoy all you want.
Exactly: you highlighted exactly what you wanted to stir up some drama. If the list said Displays only I could understand, but it doesn't.

But anyways, enjoy your Tax Free Holiday.
 
Deceitful promotions from retailers are nothing new, they're practically required to join the club. Apple isn't deceiving anybody here, but you would almost certainly be better off waiting for a Black Friday or other such promotion and paying tax rather than paying full price from Apple during your state's tax holiday. I'm waiting for an M3 anyway so I won't be participating.

Generally the discounts are just enough to cover the tax and shipping anyway.
 
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that indeed sounds like the most American thing ever

:rolleyes:

I'm not really sure what that means but Tax "holidays", to the best of my knowledge, began as a way to lessen the cost of back to school supplies for families. Pretty simple concept, and for some, a helpful respite from the tax man during a typically expensive time for families with school aged children.
 
So its says: The tax-free holidays begin in late July to early August. Depending on the state, eligible Apple products may include Macs, iPads, iPhones, and/or accessories, I guess for Florida it does not include you iPhones?
 
Exactly: you highlighted exactly what you wanted to stir up some drama. If the list said Displays only I could understand, but it doesn't.

But anyways, enjoy your Tax Free Holiday.
Right, people highlight things they want to bring attention to, that's generally the point. Not sure where you saw any drama I was stirring, but I guess there's a saying about finding mud...
 
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I can't believe I was dumb enough for even trying to check if California would be on the list of states.
Don't worry, "tax breaks" are a zero-sum game. Someone, likely you, are covering 100% of the costs of these "breaks". They are merely a gift to retailers: retailers don't need to give discounts to drive a high volume of sales for a day or two. Politicians get political points from retailers and from people who mistakenly imagine that these "holidays" are a money saver.
 
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Nobody has ever been fired for something as insignificant as that.

That sounds ethical! /s

And, dumb when it leads to their getting fired! 🙈

Or, is it an “employee & friends” discount?! 😁
It is in agreement with Apple policies. Employees can make a certain number of purchases for "Friends and Family". The employee pays but item is shipped and registered to the recipient. There is nothing illegal or unethical about it.
 
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It is in agreement with Apple policies. Employees can make a certain number of purchases for "Friends and Family". The employee pays but item is shipped and registered to the recipient. There is nothing illegal or unethical about it.
Exactly, in fact the employee can use any credit card, as in — one that belongs to a friend.
 
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Wow, Datacenter used to be the one online national retailer that was tax free, but as of late 2023 no more... I got an ipad from there 6 months ago.

I'm driving through Florida but sadly the 15" MBA with 16GB RAM and 512GB storage (only usable config in my book) is too expensive to qualify by $79. Florida caps the tax discount at $1500.

Time for an adjustment due to inflation if you ask me. Price levels are a good 1/3 higher than they were before covid.

But yeah, waiting for a sale a few months from now will be cheaper than the no tax scheme. And I agree the tax free scheme is fundamentally unfair and a silly thing for America to do.
 
Wow, Datacenter used to be the one online national retailer that was tax free, but as of late 2023 no more... I got an ipad from there 6 months ago.

I'm driving through Florida but sadly the 15" MBA with 16GB RAM and 512GB storage (only usable config in my book) is too expensive to qualify by $79. Florida caps the tax discount at $1500.

Time for an adjustment due to inflation if you ask me. Price levels are a good 1/3 higher than they were before covid.

But yeah, waiting for a sale a few months from now will be cheaper than the no tax scheme. And I agree the tax free scheme is fundamentally unfair and a silly thing for America to do.
With the education price it should be under the limit, yeah?
 
With the education price it should be under the limit, yeah?
Actually the way apple prices the "free gift card" it may be. They deduct $150 from your computer price and then "charge" you $150 for a gift card. So the total is actually $1580 but breaks down on the receipt as $1430 computer and $150 gift card (gift cards are never charged tax).

I would like to confirm this before ordering, because according to the following, you won't really see the tax removed until you pick up the computer in the store:

It's still not working for FL. Best Buy, Amazon and quite a few retailers were able to do it at midnight. Apple probably needs to take down the store for a few hours to achieve this.
According to Apple:
Your tax savings may not appear at checkout, but will appear on your final receipt.

You won't see the correct price until you go into the physical store. But the deal is up and running.
 
With the education price it should be under the limit, yeah?
I would like to confirm this before ordering, because according to the following, you won't really see the tax removed until you pick up the computer in the store:
So have you made the purchase? Did it work that way?
Price with Special Offer:
$1,429.00
 
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I got unclear info from the Apple store workers, so I played it safe and went with the base model with upgrade to 16GB RAM only, for $1,200 + $180 RAM = $1,380 out the door, plus the $150 gift card I will use for Final Cut Pro ($200 education package). (they also told me Final Cut Pro is $200 / year which is false, so I didn't really trust what they said).

I still don't have the receipt yet, as I'm waiting to pick up the machine, so I'm not sure how the $150 discount / charge is going to appear, and plus each state calculates tax differently (ie some charge you tax on coupons !) so it's risky.

I have a 2TB T7 Shield that I can use for supplemental storage that is a fraction of what Apple charges. I'll only need it for rare video edits, where the speed shouldn't be an issue.

If you could see your true price at checkout I would have tried adding the storage upgrade too, or bought 2 configs and returned one, but nope. The tax holiday thing is really a weird event and anyway I think if you return a computer you still have to pay for the $150 gift card.
 
I "took the risk" and ordered the 512/16 version, got charged for the $150 right away and for the Macbook net price a few hours later. I paid with account balance so I just return it if I get charged tax. Nothing changes on my end regarding the $150.

Reminds me the old days with Ebay gift card rolling... except here the account balance won't increase. 😁
 
5 days after ordering, I got two charges, one $150 charge for the gift card and a $1229 charge for the computer. Based on that billing it really looks like I could have gotten the SSD upgrade without being charged tax. (?)
 
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