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*waits for Taylor Swift's open letter of approval*
Sexist. I don't usually jump to that conclusion, but I don't understand how anyone objective couldn't at least see her point, which suggests a lack of objectivity. Or maybe it's because she's wealthy. Same deal as far as I'm concerned.
 
It's hard to imagine an iOS device without the home button. I reckon it would be a very awkward adjustment period. I am still fumbling with the relocated power button on the side of my iPhone 6, always get it mixed up with the volume buttons and accidentally put the display to sleep, same when taking photos.
 
Sexist. I don't usually jump to that conclusion, but I don't understand how anyone objective couldn't at least see her point, which suggests a lack of objectivity. Or maybe it's because she's wealthy. Same deal as far as I'm concerned.

Speaking of a lack of objectivity, explain where I objectively demonstrated an inability to see her point. If you can't and that's the only reason you accused me of sexism, an apology would be nice.
 
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Logistically this rumour i think is about the right time. The A9 processor was rumoured to have gone into production for the 6S back in December. So its design would have been finalised a bit before it. So if the iPhone 7 was to have this technology they would have to be finalising component designs between now and christmas at a guess so components can start production later in the year / early 2016 for next years phone i would have thought.
 
However you get less screen real estate if their are
software buttons So no thanks.

That's not really true. Apple makes the top and bottom bezels symmetrical. So by eliminating the physical button both the top and bottom bezels can be shrunk significantly. Even accounting for the part used by the on screen buttons, you can still get more usable screen real estate in the same physical dimensions. Compare the Nexus 6 to the iPhone 6+ for example.

Even if the source is accurate (which is questionable), I don't see Apple making this shift any time soon.
 

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That's not really true. Apple makes the top and bottom bezels symmetrical. So by eliminating the physical button both the top and bottom bezels can be shrunk significantly. Even accounting for the part used by the on screen buttons, you can still get more usable screen real estate in the same physical dimensions. Compare the Nexus 6 to the iPhone 6+ for example.

Even if the source is accurate (which is questionable), I don't see Apple making this shift any time soon.
You should also point out that the Nexus 6 is a 6 inch phone with speakers on the front. The IP6+ is a 5.5 inch phone yet they are both the same overall size.
 
Physical buttons have always been the first thing to break on my Apple devices. I've started using Activator for everything that needs a button press, but waking the device is still a problem. This might be very cool.
 
That's not really true. Apple makes the top and bottom bezels symmetrical. So by eliminating the physical button both the top and bottom bezels can be shrunk significantly. Even accounting for the part used by the on screen buttons, you can still get more usable screen real estate in the same physical dimensions. Compare the Nexus 6 to the iPhone 6+ for example.

Even if the source is accurate (which is questionable), I don't see Apple making this shift any time soon.
Your assuming they will make the screen larger to accommodate the new software buttons. When they could simply keep it the same.
 
thanks god, because iphone 6 and 6+ is too big for the screen that size.
 
Physical buttons have always been the first thing to break on my Apple devices. I've started using Activator for everything that needs a button press, but waking the device is still a problem. This might be very cool.

I like being able to wake and unlock my iPhone in one step by pressing the home button with TouchID enabled. It's easy to find the target because the button is slightly concave and because I can see it. How would that work with a virtual button, which wouldn't be visible until the device was awake?
 
I like being able to wake and unlock my iPhone in one step by pressing the home button with TouchID enabled. It's easy to find the target because the button is slightly concave and because I can see it. How would that work with a virtual button, which wouldn't be visible until the device was awake?
Apple could use Knock-On (but call it something different). Allowing you to turn the device on by tapping it, shouldn't take much power since the Mx chip is always on anyways.
 
I like being able to wake and unlock my iPhone in one step by pressing the home button with TouchID enabled. It's easy to find the target because the button is slightly concave and because I can see it. How would that work with a virtual button, which wouldn't be visible until the device was awake?
Maybe there would be some sort of sensitive areas on the phone, and automatically light up when you touch it.

However, physical button will not easily disappear. I have tried a harman kardon speaker with virtually no physical buttons. The increasing and decreasing of volume could be a little bit frustrating when sliding over that volume adjustment area.

Plus, since physical buttons would give us true feedback when we interact with them, why we remove all of them in a sudden, and insists virtual button is better?
 
Maybe there would be some sort of sensitive areas on the phone, and automatically light up when you touch it.

However, physical button will not easily disappear. I have tried a harman kardon speaker with virtually no physical buttons. The increasing and decreasing of volume could be a little bit frustrating when sliding over that volume adjustment area.

Plus, since physical buttons would give us true feedback when we interact with them, why we remove all of them in a sudden, and insists virtual button is better?
Yeah that is the same question folks had when going from Blackberries to iPhones back in the day.

You already have a physical power button, why do you need a physical home button?
 
Yeah that is the same question folks had when going from Blackberries to iPhones back in the day.

You already have a physical power button, why do you need a physical home button?
Ok. If you solely think home button is just used for waking up phone, I have nothing much to say.
Greeting used to one thing could be great. But it also means the risk to eliminate the desire to change, to a maybe better one.
 
WHY WHY WHY DO THEY DO THIS TO ME!???! I want more ports, more buttons, more customization... I want a friggin Swiss Army knife phone!

On my Mac, I have keys F13-F19 all programmed with different functions. One day I wish I could have a phone like that, with buttons all over it. One button for the camera, one to open email, a Pandora button, an Apple Pay button, ect... Especially for the video camera. I hate having to turn the phone on, slide the screen up, select the camera icon, then wait for it to load and have to switch from phot to video. THAT'S LIKE 5 STEPS! And the moment is friggin gone.
 
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Ok. If you solely think home button is just used for waking up phone, I have nothing much to say.
Greeting used to one thing could be great. But it also means the risk to eliminate the desire to change, to a maybe better one.
I never said it was used only to wake the iPhone up. Though based on how Touch ID works it kinda has taken on that role since the 5S. All the other shortcuts and features can be mapped to the onscreen button, or additional on screen buttons can be used to do the same thing.
 
I never said it was used only to wake the iPhone up. Though based on how Touch ID works it kinda has taken on that role since the 5S. All the other shortcuts and features can be mapped to the onscreen button, or additional on screen buttons can be used to do the same thing.
But not all of those Things could be completed using only on screen button, right?
Say android phones could be woken up using double tap on the screen, but that doesn't mean they don't need a physical button to power up.
And for volume button, I bet we will need it for a long time, as long as phone can be used to play music.
Well, maybe you can say I am not supporting my idea but your idea.
 
But not all of those Things could be completed using only on screen button, right?
Say android phones could be woken up using double tap on the screen, but that doesn't mean they don't need a physical button to power up.
And for volume button, I bet we will need it for a long time, as long as phone can be used to play music.
Well, maybe you can say I am not supporting my idea but your idea.
Oh def keep the power and volume buttons, I think that the home button is possible to be removed now. Though it would probably confuse the folks that have been using iPhones from the beginning. To be honest the multiple functions of the home button are not really that easily discoverable. My wife still has to ask me how to see all the apps to close one.
 
Oh def keep the power and volume buttons, I think that the home button is possible to be removed now. Though it would probably confuse the folks that have been using iPhones from the beginning. To be honest the multiple functions of the home button are not really that easily discoverable. My wife still has to ask me how to see all the apps to close one.
So if we only have virtual buttons, then if your wife ask you to do multitasking, you add a virtual button. Then if your wife ask you to take a photo and send this photo right on Twitter, you add a virtual button. Then, your phone will end up filling with many virtual buttons. Of course this is not really possible, but I think, maybe, this is not really the time to completely remove physical home button.

Nevertheless, the trend is not so easy to see. And I rarely notice what android devices goes on these months.
 
So if we only have virtual buttons, then if your wife ask you to do multitasking, you add a virtual button. Then if your wife ask you to take a photo and send this photo right on Twitter, you add a virtual button. Then, your phone will end up filling with many virtual buttons. Of course this is not really possible, but I think, maybe, this is not really the time to completely remove physical home button.

Nevertheless, the trend is not so easy to see. And I rarely notice what android devices goes on these months.
Sorry I am confused, how does the home button take a picture?
 
Home button does cannot take a picture.

What I think is it might not be the best time to remove physical home button.

I now cannot imagine how fingerprint sensor would work on screen.
 
Home button does cannot take a picture.

What I think is it might not be the best time to remove physical home button.

I now cannot imagine how fingerprint sensor would work on screen.
Ah, well that is why we love Apple. They are able to come up with ways to do things that we couldn't think of.
 
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