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I have a 21" 2011 Imac and I still lover it, the i5 is still plenty fast, nice to have the drive built in for ripping disks, and its still pretty thin.
 
I wonder what their definition of "cheaper" is. The 5C was supposed to be "cheaper" and still cost over $500 unsubsidized.

The iPhone 5c was never, ever announced as a cheap alternative. Tech bloggers and business analysts decided it was and publicized it like crazy, Apple themselves never once said that it was going to be cheaper.

Moral of the story: don't believe everything you read.
 
Wasn't there a production issue that resulted at less than expected?

I just don't see how they could possibly make the imac cheaper, this really is bad news...Apple always tried to make high quality stuff and sold it at fair prices, I don't want to see some cheapo imac variant ugh
 
I hope this happens, the prices on iMacs have gone higher in two refreshes, It starts at $1349 in Canada now.

Apple needs to start working on lowering prices like they used to in the old days. I remember when the Mac Mini was for $499!!
 
The A7 is already as fast as 2011-era Macbook Airs (given a power/MHz bump), it should be good enough for basic Mac desktops.

You sure about that? Honestly asking. I though you couldn't directly compare arm to x86 benchmarks..
 
Apple will eventually have to move the low-end Macs to their own ARM chips using a version of OS X that can run on ARM architecture. It's going to be the only way for Apple to save money while maintaining high profit margins.

The A7 is already as fast as 2011-era Macbook Airs (given a power/MHz bump), it should be good enough for basic Mac desktops.

These base Macs should sell for 499, including Display & SSD. It would essentially be an iPad with a keyboard, running OS X.

It's comparable to a 2010 MacBook Air. Yes, the difference is important, the 2011 MBA uses the Sandy Bridge CPU architecture which was a huge boost in performance and when the MBA became the "default" Mac in Apple's lineup.

I don't see them ever moving to ARM with Mac OS X simply because of the performance hit that comes with emulating a different CPU architecture. Any power efficiency gains which you would hope to have by going to ARM (and let's be clear, there really aren't any) will be lost with a performance penalty from emulation.
 
The 5c wasn't actually supposed to be cheaper. That's just something some stupid analysts made up.

(Re this rumor, who knows? Kuo is supposed to be the best of the analysts... but that's like being the most honest politician.)

The iPhone 5c was never, ever announced as a cheap alternative. Tech bloggers and business analysts decided it was and publicized it like crazy, Apple themselves never once said that it was going to be cheaper.

Moral of the story: don't believe everything you read.

Really? a plastic phone with its predecessors hardware, that goes for $100 less, launched in parallel with a metallic 5S, which btw contains real upgrades and keeps the same price point as its predecessor... is not meant to be a cheaper iphone? So your theory is, because they didn't explicitly say it was meant to be a cheaper iPhone, the 5C is not - even when the phone itself implies it? Did they just intend to fulfill the deep desire of millions of consumers for plastic crocs-looking iPhone? Seriously... :rolleyes:

Moral of the story: don't expect to read about everything you see. (of course Apple's ego wont let them publicly say they are putting out cheaper products!)

But I digress... IMO if Apple wants to go mainstream - past a 10-15% computer market share worldwide (currently they hold less than 8%) - they should do something really new in terms of brand positioning - instead of these half ass measures that just cheapen existing products but keep margins and prices high. If they don't want to do that, and keep being a premium product to justify those margins, then just stop messing around with the idea. But they just cant have it both ways: dramatically increase sales volumes and keeping the current margins and brand position. Thinking so seems as a strategy right out of Steve Jobs' legendary distortion field.
 
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The iPhone 5c was never, ever announced as a cheap alternative. Tech bloggers and business analysts decided it was and publicized it like crazy, Apple themselves never once said that it was going to be cheaper.

Moral of the story: don't believe everything you read.

When you have a year old tech encased in plastic and crocs knock off, it's cheap by definition.
 
iMacs are the only computers that don't allow Apple the opportunity to implement their superior battery technology. So the prices have to go down, as it doesn't provide as much benefit as when you compare a Windows laptop with a Macbook Pro.
 
It'll be interesting to see lower-end iMacs. I would really appreciate a redesigned thunderbolt display. :D
 
That's the trend. Take gut after gut out of the former "all in one" but keep the price about the same. Eventually, we'll be buying a glorified thunderbolt hub called an iMac and having to attach everything to it to make a computer. It will be spun as the "thinnest and lightest" iMac ever but we'll need to bring everything to the hub to actually get a working computer.


You're describing the Mac Mini Pro that's been previewed.

Except that the Mac Mini Pro (aka "trashcan") as previewed will start at $7999.
 
Apple make a killing on the high profit margin on the iMac. All they need to do is lower the price in a world where ipad sales are eating into desktop sales.
 
The major problem i see people not buying iMac i guess is it's upgrade-ability. I absolutely dont see the reason why Apple couldn't design the 21.5 inch imac like 27 inch where they can upgrade the ram. I always gave them feedback regarding it.

Companies need to understand this:
iphone: A more utility device but less productivity, which has a limited function. Apple can design a completely lockdown phone and still make it usable because they can guess all the possible usage of the phone in the entire world

iPad: A utility + Productivity Device which can be used in much more ways than what Apple can think of. Everyone's needs differ and may need a little specific hardware configuration for certain task. But a good powerful iPad might suffice to most of the people if not all.

Computers: These are COMPLETELY productivity device, Apple can never assume or guess all the possible usage of a computer. From someones laps to some ones Labs, from underneath ground to space station. It can be used anywhere and everywhere.

So, computers should be something that can be customized in Ram, Hard drive and Processing power to individuals needs. In the new iMac, all 3 are lockdown, atleast not an easy task to upgrade. Search a video to replace ram in iMac 2012, you will faint in the mid video, you have to start from the screen and then go deeper, every component and flex cable has to be removed just to upgrade the ram, I mean they could've easily give an opening from the back as in imac 27 inch.

For my needs, the higher version imac 21.5 inch 2012 is enough (that's what i have rightnow) but i need more ram cos i work on multiple application open at same time, it slows down like hell. If i monitor my activity i rarely pass 50-60 % of processor usage, 1TB hard drive is also enough, but i hit 8GB Ram with 20-30MB remaining and it remains like this rest of the day.
 
Apple going against the business model that jobs put into place. Make only a couple GREAT products. All these mini's, and c's and soon to be giants. It's getting crazy
 
Apple going against the business model that jobs put into place. Make only a couple GREAT products. All these mini's, and c's and soon to be giants. It's getting crazy

A smart business model starts with a focused product line because of limited resources. Over time you're supposed to reinvest in the company and expand on your value proposition. They've been doing this. Steve Jobs was a part of this plan.
 
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Concentrate on the Mac Mini

Stop wasting time trying to cheapen the iMac.

The Mac Mini is supposed to be the gateway drug into Mac usage and it's just too expensive. They need to get the entry level price down from $600 to something closer to $400. Then they can sell it to the PC user who wants to give Mac a try by re-using his existing display, mouse, and keyboard.

It's just a hard sell for most PC users to tell them to give up the expansion slots and built-in optical drive of even the cheapest PCs and then pay $600 for that privilege.
 
I hear it will use colorful plastic instead of aluminum but only be priced $100 less while encompassing this year's technology. Then, apparently people will say "for only $100 more" and buy the aluminum one instead because it has the latest tech. :rolleyes:

Maybe Apple created the iPhone 5c to sell more iPhone 5s. What you think?:D
 
Wow!

I disagree. I carry mine from room to room. It sits on a desk next to my bed.

Really, so you must have been the guy I saw everyone laughing at at a Starbucks with an iMac on a table browsing away a while back.

I love you, man. but, perhaps, it's time to buy a portable.

:cool:
 
Stop wasting time trying to cheapen the iMac.

The Mac Mini is supposed to be the gateway drug into Mac usage and it's just too expensive. They need to get the entry level price down from $600 to something closer to $400. Then they can sell it to the PC user who wants to give Mac a try by re-using his existing display, mouse, and keyboard.

It's just a hard sell for most PC users to tell them to give up the expansion slots and built-in optical drive of even the cheapest PCs and then pay $600 for that privilege.

I totally agree with this. They need to lower the Mac Mini pricing. A $400 Mac Mini would be a great way for people to buy into OSX.

Maybe Apple created the iPhone 5c to sell more iPhone 5s. What you think?:D

I think this is true, but I also think it really helps sell last year's tech. A new packaging at least got people to try it. You didn't see mobile tech reviewers review last year's iPhone 4S in 2012, but in 2013, many people went to try the "new" iPhone 5C.
 
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