Apple Losing Touch with PRO's vs CONSUMER? ?

Discussion in 'Apple, Inc and Tech Industry' started by redsox, Dec 12, 2007.

  1. redsox macrumors newbie

    Dec 10, 2007
    The other day I posted in a forum that me and others are a little disenchanted with Apple as of late. Why, because they, in our eyes, have not focused on the PRO segment with all this new found wealth. (iPods, iPhone, OSX and ability to run windows (important at first for some switchers), then last night I found this article.....

    However, before I post it, keep in mind, with the exception of a say a few, and so on, there hasn't been a lot of tutorials for PROS, and to be fair, Apple started some FREE PRO training.

    Anyway, this article speaks wonders of the MAC users vs the new found fan boys........and how some PROS are still waiting for the attention that they feel they need when jumping ship from say Pro Tools, or Avid to Logic and Final Cut. Sure, we no longer represent the core market, and probably won't for a few more years, but if you knew apple the way we did, there were no iphone, iphone, iphone, moms and strollers, babies crying when one visited the :apple: apple store, thus I thought it was ironic when I found this article the other day.

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    The Elite Apple Corps
    A Hundred Million Strong, Every One of Them Cool.
    By Hank Stuever
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Sunday, December 9, 2007; M01

    Whatever it is (Radio Shack for rich people? The Sharp -est Image?), the Apple Store isn't what it used to be, even a year or so ago. The initial thrills, the feelings of i-comfort and i-belonging, still await you behind its translucent facade, especially now, in the gizmodic spree of the Christmas season. But somewhere along the way, the zendo quality of the Apple Store changed.

    The demi-privacy of it, the clubby feeling -- I know that you know that I know that we know and love Macs like nobody else does-- is fading away. Too much commotion. The ethereal, tranquil, spa vibe (the bath of white light, the polished concrete floors, the glint in the happy eyes of the geniuses at the Genius Bar) has been pierced by the sheer popularity of the place. The TV commercials worked. Mac Guy, even with his non-arrogant arrogance, is your real friend, and then he gathered too many friends, and suddenly he doesn't have time for them all.

    Steve Jobs, Apple's CEO and bodhisattva, got what he wanted: the people. (A hundred million customers were lured to its stores in fiscal 2006-07, according to Apple, adding up to more than $4 billion in revenue.)

    Apple shoppers are more than people, more than customers -- they are seekers. Those Apple marketing guys said all along they were building not just stores but serene communities of true believers and new converts. And so they did, and here we are, just 6 1/2 years later:

    The Apple Store is the sound of very special toddlers yelling Daddeeee, Daddeeee as they are deposited in front of iMacs loaded up with wholesome video games in the shorty zone, while Daddeeee nabs a black T-shirted store employee to complain yet again about something not quite right with his iPhone.

    Someone's precious terrier in a red sweater is barking on a recent Sunday afternoon in the Clarendon Apple Store, while eight different kinds of music blare from all those iPod stereo docks, which are being monopolized by the very same touch-don't-look customers who were once fond of cranking up the volume knobs in a Circuit City car audio department. The stores have upped the frenetic pace, skipping the cash registers altogether, zapping your purchases with handheld remotes, offering to print out a receipt if you're hopelessly wedded to something so paper, so tactile.

    Or a Monday afternoon in the Apple Store on the second level of the Westfield Shoppingtown Montgomery mall, going at full Apple Store steam at 2 o'clock. People are talking loudly. The Apple TV ad plays over and over, a barrage of Bono and Coldplay and "Zoolander" and everything else that Apple's brain trust believes to be everyone's favorite song or movie. The MacBook and iMac screens glow with the purply-rose desktop image of Mac's new Leopard operating system.

    A woman glumly sits on a stool, waiting for genius help. It's her MacBook, she sighs. It keeps crashing. You have to sign up for an appointment a day or two in advance now, or more. She's been here twice with the same issue. She still loves Apple. She loves the machine. She loves the feeling. But she dreads coming here again.

    Later that night, Tysons Corner: You may have forgotten that this mall's Apple Store was one of the first two Apple Stores anywhere (the other was in Glendale, Calif.). The Tysons Apple Store opened in May 2001. It was 8,000 square feet of almost no product -- not even such a thing as an iPod yet. You could have roller-skated in it.

    Tonight, it too finds itself in what has become a daily experience of controlled chaos. A specialist is walking a 50ish couple through the synchronization of their very i-lives to a 15-inch titanium-encased MacBook Pro. The wife takes notes on a yellow legal pad, and it pains her to interrupt -- "When that box keeps popping up and asking for his password, and I guess I shouldn't be typing it in all those times, I know that now," she stammers. She looks like she's taking notes on what the oncologist is saying, about the cancer, and whether it's spreading. She is hoping against hope for a cure.

    Cured! Like that! You turn your head and they're gone! Happy but exhausted, off into the mall, back into the drab, linear PC-based world. They head one way, then another. This way? No, we're this way.

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    The Apple Store is of California and exactly like California: the sunshine is still plentiful and free, the guys are glinty and nerdy (and the cute chicks dig them), but forget about parking in California, and the beach is totally mobbed, and the minute you get there you say to yourself Why am I here again? Oh, right, because it's all so cool. You stagger away from the Apple Store the same way you leave California, a little too buzzed.

    Time does funny things to trends, and to iconic mall stores. Once upon a time, people loved hanging out in the Sharper Image, which is now part of mall blight like the Spencer Gifts and the GNC.

    Not 18 months ago, cultural essayists and architecture critics would wander into flagship Apple Stores around the world (SoHo! Fifth Avenue! Regent Street!) and go long and poetic about Apple's revolution in hipster elegance, the clean lines, the retail frontier. And indeed, these are beautiful places, pluralistic to the point that you can use their bathroom, and check your e-mail on their display Macs, and be among friends you always dreamed of having, somewhere. It was a glimpse at a world where everyone is smart, and agreeably diverse, and able to spend lots of money. Now you have to brace yourself to walk into the Apple Store. The question so recently was: What is the Apple Store doing to us, as a people?

    Now the question is: What are we doing to it ?

    Can you smother a store to death?

    Smothering, yes. "It's sweaty now," a friend says, thinking about the Clarendon store.

    There are 204 Apple Stores in five countries, the majority of them in the United States. (The newest, in New York's meatpacking district, was scheduled to open Friday, with the attendant customer-acolytes lined up hours beforehand.) Over the summer, 330,000 Mac computers were sold at Apple stores -- and Apple says more than half of them were sold to new converts, who'd owned PCs. Around 270,000 people paid for "one-to-one" privileges, which allows them to come in for some special, personal love from an Apple Store genius.

    These are not, in the grand consumer electronics scheme, huge numbers. It only feels like everyone is at the Apple Store. That is the glorious idea behind it, to be essential but still rare, to be ubiquitous but unique.

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    The specialists and geniuses are in their black Apple T-shirts, wearing name tags (Adam, Matt, Luis and the endless supply of Ryans, and an occasional Jen).

    And talkingrillyfast. Rillyrlyfst. Allfthem. Glare-eyed, too happy with themselves, like Jesus people holding up one finger on 1970s street corners. They know you aren't One of Them, but they forgive you. Nothing expresses both virtue and contempt like forgiveness. That's life in church. They know what Steve Jobs wants of them, and they live to serve.

    Alex Frankel, a 37-year-old writer from San Francisco, spent the last few years applying for and working at a variety of retail jobs to report what it's really like on that side of the register, and writing a just-released book, "Punching In: The Unauthorized Adventures of a Front-Line Employee."

    He delivered packages for UPS. He barista'd at a Starbucks. He entered the bizarre culture of Enterprise Rent-a-Car. He folded shirts at the Gap.

    At the end of "Punching In," Frankel at last alights on retail nirvana: the Apple Store.

    "Of all the places I worked, it was the place where I was most able to be myself," he says, by phone from his home out there in the golden land. "It sounds kind of cheesy, but it was just a whole lot more easy to be there and deal with the whole art of selling, because you don't have to fake it."

    He already used and liked the product -- he's owned seven Apple computers in his time. The word on the street was that Apple Stores reject 90 percent of their applicants, boasting even that it's harder to get hired on at some stores than to get into Stanford. Frankel, who'd failed to out-psych the hiring process at Home Depot and Whole Foods, sailed right into Apple, working for a month or so as an $11.25-an-hour Mac specialist in the Apple Store at Stonestown Galleria, a smallish Nordstrom-and-Macy's mall in San Francisco.

    What separates an Apple Store dude (Frankel observes that the employees are still mostly male) from other stores' employees is the degree to which he believes fully in the product and the mission. "Here, unlike Gap, CEO Steve Jobs could not slip in unannounced -- he was revered as godlike," Frankel writes. He learned to fine-tune the store's casual, companionable sales techniques, the three P's, as laid out in the training video: "Position, permission, probe." ( Position: Let the customer know that you're asking questions to get a feel for what they want to use the computer for, and they give permission, and then you really probe, find out if they do graphics, if they want to make movies, if they're going to go way, way into the iLife.)

    "If Gap was hot in the 1980s and Urban Outfitters in the 1990s, this was the time for the Apple Store chain," he writes. In his epilogue, Frankel returns to the Apple Store with a problem concerning a gift certificate. A store employee "adamantly declared that I could purchase something only online and absolutely not in the store." And Frankel recognized him. He'd folded shirts with him at the Gap.

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    "I think people are still not exactly sure what the Apple Store is all about," says Gary Allen, a former police dispatcher in Berkeley, Calif., who in his spare time runs a Web site called ifoAppleStore, which obsessively chronicles and documents any and all news about store locations, since Apple officially declines to discuss or reveal its plans. (Allen has become adroit at sniffing out new Apple Stores by checking building permits. Also you can sense its arrival by habitat: upscale stores, hip streets and, weirdly, the J. Jill clothing chain. Apple likes to be on the Nordstrom end of malls. These are some good indicators.)

    "People are used to a big box store, where you go and you pull things off the shelf and you take them to a cash register. The first time you go into an Apple Store is a little like going into a restaurant where you don't know if you order at the front or at your table, and where you pick up your food," Allen says. "Up until a year or so ago, [the store] had a policy where people would come in and you don't bother them. Now you walk in and they immediately say, 'Hi, can I help you with a computer today?' "

    More strangers kept coming in, and Apple had to retrain the church ushers. Then more people kept coming. Soon enough, the activity level in your average Apple Store began to feel like a Saturday afternoon at Best Buy.

    "I was in the flagship store on Regent Street in London recently," says Michael Oh, president and founder of Tech Superpowers, on Boston's tony Newbury Street. "And it was absolutely insane, like at the level of the Underground at rush hour. People were five deep in front of computers. You could not walk a straight line to the back of the store."

    For years, Tech Superpowers has sold and catered to upscale Mac users. Now, just across their alley on Boylston Street, there is a huge Apple Store going up. It's unclear how it will affect Oh's business, and yet, as a true believer in the product, he is giddy nonetheless to see it. They are building high-end condos over there, and a Mandarin hotel. It's very Apple Store. He set up a webcam to chronicle the construction.

    And he recently made a new hire -- a young tech specialist who'd previously worked at an Apple Store. But the kid couldn't take the relentless eight-hour shifts behind the Genius Bar, the chaos. He loved the place so much -- loves it still -- but he needed the serenity of a smaller, more special realm.

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    Epilogue: Clarendon again. Apple Store madness on a Tuesday afternoon.

    The titanium Powerbook G4 has died. It was purchased in the Santa Monica Apple Store on a lavender August evening of breezes and palm trees, way back in 2003, just as people were wandering in and wanting to know more about the ancient click-wheel version of the iPod. There was wheezing from its fan, and horrid, osteoporotic clicking from the hard drive.

    "It's time," nods a Mac Specialist.

    Don't even bother with an exam at the Genius Bar. Your ProCare agreement expired many moons ago. Here is the new MacBook. The Apple Store is always willing to help you cope with a death, and $2,000 later, it didn't feel like death at all.

    One leaves the store feeling both shamed and thrilled.
  2. yeroen macrumors 6502a


    Mar 8, 2007
    Cambridge, MA
    i've commented on this too many times..

    Pro hardware and apps for the prestige, consumer gadgets for the almighty $$$$$.
    Guess which interest gets bumped to the front of the priority queue?
  3. CashGap macrumors 6502


    Sep 15, 2007
    Music City, USA
    There is an old saying that almost fits. Except that the consumers actually spend more than the pros, but still...

    "Sell to the Classes and you'll live with the Masses
    But sell to the Masses and you'll live with the Classes"

    Apple's financial health fluctuates in inverse proportion to pro share of their sales, and they know it.
  4. tsice19 macrumors 6502a


    Feb 16, 2008
    The Apple Stores are becoming more and more crowded by the month.

    I was recently in the Apple Store King Of Prussia, and there were like 5 people/square meter. Horrible.

    The need to start charging admission.
  5. akm3 macrumors 68020

    Nov 15, 2007
    So, is the 'Apple fad' going to become 'un-hip'? Now that everyone is on the bandwagon, will the real alpha/early adopters move on? Is this the Apple renaissance - to be followed by dark ages?
  6. Benjamindaines macrumors 68030


    Mar 24, 2005
    A religiously oppressed state
    I have noticed this too; I shop at the KOP Apple Store too. They really need to get the always in the way, playing with Photobooth and browsing facebook / myspace kids off the computers. They are the ones over crowding the store.

    What I am pissed off about is the fact that now there are hardly any Mac specialists! If you want to go to the Genius Bar you're pretty much screwed, it seems like they only take about 5 appointments a day! However they are never lacking people ready to help you with your iPod :\

    Apple has really lost focus.
  7. aethelbert macrumors 601

    Jun 1, 2007
    Chicago, IL, USA
    I wouldn't mind if people found it "unhip." They've really lost focus over the years, especially recently with the iPhone. I miss the days when I was the only one with a macintosh. Now with the growing market share, the viruses and junk will probably be due for a platform switch.
  8. hexonxonx macrumors 601

    Jul 4, 2007
    Denver Colorado
    Two weeks ago, I went to an Apple store to buy my Mac Pro. I got there ten minutes after opening and there were large number of people in the store as if it had been afternoon.
  9. zap2 macrumors 604


    Mar 8, 2005
    Washington D.C

    Even if Apple has "lost focus", why would you want them to lose support? Maybe refocus their efforts...

    As far as I'm concerned the iPhone is one of Apple top devices...the ecosystem I have with my Mac, iPhone, AppleTV and iPod(s) is flawless, Mobile Me pushes this to the next level. I don't like some of the things Apple does today(I wish they would push iTunes Plus a little more, a nice Mac Mini update soon...) but over all I'm much happier with Apple then I have been with any other company.
  10. aethelbert macrumors 601

    Jun 1, 2007
    Chicago, IL, USA
    I just see them peaking pretty soon and beginning a decay. In terms of service and dedication to all products equally (back when the mac was the only one), the 90s and early 2000s were good years. They're expanding their focus very far, which is not a bad thing, but I think that they're gonna start to have too much to deal with soon, which won't be good. I mean, 10.5 was delayed for the iPhone, yet they still can't keep their planned dates for iPhone-specific releases (2.0).
  11. martychang macrumors regular

    Sep 3, 2007
    When was the last time any company delivered any product on any original date they set? Delays are the norm.
  12. Benjamindaines macrumors 68030


    Mar 24, 2005
    A religiously oppressed state
    The iPhone is a very great device and everything works together much much better than anything worked on a PC 6 years ago (last time I used a PC for more than an Internet terminal). But Apple feels like it is becming an eletronics company (through the iPod and iPhone) rather than staying with their computer roots. The only thing Apple seems to be doing with their line of computers is releasing new, less powerful, smaller machines (MBA); they need to put more attention on the other 5 computers they make.
  13. Eraserhead macrumors G4


    Nov 3, 2005
    Linux but its a big stretch

    Seriously they aren't doing their pro customers badly, they have Exchange support in Snow Leopard, the new Quicktime should be much more reliable and reliability/speed are more important to pros than new OS features...
  14. Benjamindaines macrumors 68030


    Mar 24, 2005
    A religiously oppressed state
    Exchange is for business users, not Pros and Quicktime is not Pro app.

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