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Originally posted by Doctor Q
Which makes sense. The low-end-model buyers are likely to be the novices and switchers getting their feet wet, and the all-in-one simplicity suits them. I think those of us who might want a headless consumer Mac should be looking at one-generation-behind Power Macs. That's how to get less performance for less cost, while retaining configurability (your choice of monitor). The upside: this choice is already available. The downside: you miss out on the other developments, e.g., improved communication interfaces and included software, that come with the very latest models.
I hope they keep the Power Mac G4's around for a while for this reason. It' a mid-range desktop that you can pick a monitor for. You can even have a dual processor.

The eMacs are an outstanding deal now. For $799 you can get a Mac with a 17-inch monitor, 1 GHz G4, and a combo drive! What a deal!
 
Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
My god, it's a 5400 rpm drive! IT'S CRRRRRAP!!!

:rolleyes: If you're going to be using an eMac anyway, it doesn't matter. Get a life, or better yet get a job so you can afford a better Mac, if 7200 RPM is so important to you.

let's not get too feisty here... :rolleyes:

thanks for mentioning the other fact about "downgrades" though i'm not sure how "relevant" they are for emacs target market... i'm going to buy an emac for my mom. for her, it makes absolutely no difference how fast the HD is, and for that matter, it's fine that the default HD is now 40 gb, instead of the 60 gb. i'm sure she'll take the $200 price drop any day.

i guess if you were looking for every little faults then you will find that apple does some "shady" stuff. the thing i'm most excited about is that a G4 Mac with a Combo Drive can now be had for $800. that sounds pretty darn sweet to me.
 
Ok dont know if this has been mentioned in the posts previous but this makes perfect sense to me Look at this way Apple releases iTunes for Windows it causes people to look at what apple are up too and then they see price drops all in one systems yea yea crt but what the hell for 17inch all in one nice and quite systems g4 1ghz supper drive you cant get that for PC's its so dam right that well even ive just ordered a new e Mac from apple australia this is just what ive been waiting for and best of all ive just saved a small fortiune and corect me if i am wrong here but i think the memory prices have droped and so have the hard drive prices a 160 gig in a e mac ive got a 6 gig hard drive now with JAG AND ONLY A GIG LEFT WHAT THE HELL IAM I GOING TO DO WITH 160 WHOOOOAAAA

love it
 
Does anyone know about the memory configuration in these things? Can I get at both DIMMs, or just one, like in the iMac? Or in other words, how much cheating on cost can be done with the RAM?
 
Originally posted by Thanatoast
Does anyone know about the memory configuration in these things? Can I get at both DIMMs, or just one, like in the iMac? Or in other words, how much cheating on cost can be done with the RAM?
you can get at both ram chips, by turning and emac on its face and unscrewing its underbelly. they're jammed up in this little hole, but they are both there. you could prob. do what i did and buy it w/ 128, throw that away and replace it with two 512's for not much money. it used a diff. ram type than the imac also, so be careful what you buy. compared to imac ram chips, emac ram chips are BIG.
 
I actually think this is a great deal. As for the hard drive, the speed there is something that gives the iMac some greater advantage over the eMac. Fact is, most people don't care about the increased RPMs - not if they're in the eMac market.


As for the headless eMac or iMac - I'm sure Apple has considered it and done market research and found it's not lucrative right now. It's be nice to see something, and we may, but I think there aren't enought chips and Apple wants to differentiate models. Certainly the eMac is good as is. It is an introductory computer that can do most anything an average user wants.
 
Surely the fact that the HD may be 5400 rpm cannot be that detrimental. Granted the iMac has 7200 rpm drives but the top of the line Powerbooks range from 4200 - 5400 rpm. If it is good for the top of the line laptop, it must be good for an entry level consumer desktop!

Sure make sure you add a stick of 512 RAM to your eMac and you'll never notice your "inferior" drive.
 
The plot thickens?

Originally posted by WhatTheFk
STOP!!!!!!!

DO NOT BUY!!!

While Apple has dropped the price of the 1Ghz eMac, they have also crippled the computer, by once again using 5400 rpm drives. Check it out. All eMac pages on the apple site have been stripped of any mention of hard drive speed.

The emac, on its debut, had 5400 rpm drive, but were later upgraded to 7200 rpm drives and its website noted the speed. No longer.

Another clue? The cost to upgrade from 80gb to 160gb on the Superdrive eMac is $50. The same upgrade on the iMac is $100.



It's crazy how they want to screw over those who can least afford a computer. I have an emac, and was planning on upgrading to another one, but there's no way I'll accept inferior technology. Plus, it's so freakin difficult to take apart this thing to upgrade a hard drive on your own, so that's out. I guess it'll have to be an iMac for me.
:)The best clue I've been able to come up with involved clicking on my system profile and finding this drive :

http://www.directdial.com/vs/item/prod.asp?item_num=6Y080L0

Seems pretty 7200 to me ... javascript:smilie(':)')
 
They are selling 20 packs of the emacs to education at $599.....this is from the asu bookstore page.

neilt
 

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Originally posted by Stelliform
I just bought this model last week for a client. I told them about the price drop, and they are cool with that, but I would love to get them $200 back from Apple. What do you guys think the odds of getting a rebate are, without returning the one that is setup on their network?

There's like a 10 day window. Call Apple and ask.

And 5400 vs a 7200 isn't going to be that much different in speed, but it isn't that much of a cost savings unless Apple got a big discount on bulk. I do wish they had a cheaper headless, but those $500 PCs ain't that great anyway.

Unless you build it yourself like I did, but... you know. That's a whole other issue. ;)
 
Noticed that new eMac doesn't boot in OS9

If the combo drive is now 1 GHZ and $800 , do you think it is too late to go buy the previous combo model ? Do you think I could buy it for less than $750 ?
 
The best thing apple could have done. I swear I just sold two emacs yesterday to people who were thinking about a new computer, and one is a switcher.

I'll stop by my local apple store for my cut later, OK Steve.
 
Just to make it perfectly clear

I bought a new eMac yesterday, and it does have a 7200 HD.
Why is that strange alarmist assumption being repeated as fact?
 
who knows , how you like that emac? still got to say that is a awsome price for a awsome machine.what cant you do with the Emac???except maybe carry it around with you.:)
 
Originally posted by Sabenth
ive got a 6 gig hard drive now with JAG AND ONLY A GIG LEFT WHAT THE HELL IAM I GOING TO DO WITH 160 WHOOOOAAAA

I went from an Amiga with a 210meg harddrive to a 60Gig drive on the Mac and thought it would last almost forever. 1 Year Later... Trust me you will use space up like a crazy man if you have it sitting there. :D
 
Re: Just to make it perfectly clear

Originally posted by knucklehead
I bought a new eMac yesterday, and it does have a 7200 HD.
Why is that strange alarmist assumption being repeated as fact?

Agree ... I would rather think that it doesn't say anything about rpm because all the HD options now have the same rpm.
 
Re: Noticed that new eMac doesn't boot in OS9

Originally posted by RichardCarletta
If the combo drive is now 1 GHZ and $800 , do you think it is too late to go buy the previous combo model ? Do you think I could buy it for less than $750 ?
From the Applestore Refurbished Page:
eMac 800MHzG4/128MB/40GB/CD-ROM/E/56K $699.00
eMac 1GHzG4/128MB/60GB/Combo/E/56K $849.00
eMac 1GHzG4/256MB/80GB/SuperDrive/E/56K $1,099.00

Doesn't really seem like all that great of a deal to me.
 
Re: All emacs at 1 gig!

Originally posted by Dont Hurt Me
go to Apple if you think im making it up. Fantastic. Emac is a great deal for those wanting to get into the Mac world. very nice.

WHERE is the 1,25GHz version of eMac??????????????????
That's the one I wanted for my home office :mad:
 
i think apple is trying to get seperation between imac & emac performance. only 250 mhz doesnt make that much difference on the g4. consumer models will be way behind the pro stuff after the next g5 bump. Apple has a lot of work cut out for it the next year with g5 advancement and g4 crawl.
 
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