What would you use it for? I have had it on my last 3 Windows laptops and have never used it.
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Apple M1 Hands-On Comparison: MacBook Air vs. MacBook Pro vs. Mac Mini
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MBP 16 Geekbench (and yes fans spinning at about 50% complete onwards)
My MBP 16 is my work issued Mac and score are consistent with other similarly configured MBP. Blows my mind how the Air M1 does better.
And why not - My Windows Gaming Rig
MBP 16 Geekbench (and yes fans spinning at about 50% complete onwards)
My MBP 16 is my work issued Mac and score are consistent with other similarly configured MBP. Blows my mind how the Air M1 does better.
And why not - My Windows Gaming Rig
It's a shame the numbers are so close for all three models.
Feels like APPLE is ripping you off going with the Pro and no justification in the higher price
I'll wait until the M2 or next years models.
want at least 32GB of memory. don't care what they say. 16 too low
Feels like APPLE is ripping you off going with the Pro and no justification in the higher price
I'll wait until the M2 or next years models.
want at least 32GB of memory. don't care what they say. 16 too low
After looking some evaluations and post here, I am very tempted to get M1 Mini....but yeah, I am still prefer waiting 32GB RAM config and 10GBe option available, just like previous Intel one (space gray is also nice if available on M1 version)
Oh X299.....I had Asrock X299 Creator board with built in Titan Ridge TB3, but I have difficulties finding chips available at that time, leaving canceled build
Oh X299.....I had Asrock X299 Creator board with built in Titan Ridge TB3, but I have difficulties finding chips available at that time, leaving canceled build
If bezels = good speakers, I'm all for bezels.
And Touch Bar is better than no Touch Bar.
throttled equals 5% degradation in performance, that's it.
If you buy an air versus the pro, you probably weren't planning on using it to transcode or render super high res or fps videos which is what would usually throttle it.
Comparing the speakers of my 13" M1 MBP to my 16"MBP...they definitely don't hold up.
Adequate for the most part, but the 16" speakers are great.
Any of these M1 Macs are amazing. IMO. I got a mid level Air. I'm amazed. My 2018 MBP now feels primitive so it sits around on the shelf.
One really minor thing I haven't heard mentioned...
When using an external monitor with my 13"M1, I can now close and open the lid and there is no blackout on either the monitor(Viewsonic 4K) or the MacBook. My 16" always took a few seconds to initialize and set resolution while it blacked out.
The monitor resolution switches instantly to native when I open the lid, and reverts back to whatever resolution I have the monitor set at when I close the lid. Instantaneously.
The only thing that takes a few seconds with an external monitor is Wake from Sleep. Whenever the lid is closed or open, the monitor takes a few seconds to turn on. The MacBook Pro's screen will turn instantly on, but my monitor takes its time. No big issue, but a slight annoyance after being able activate the laptop's screen as fast as an iPhone.
When using an external monitor with my 13"M1, I can now close and open the lid and there is no blackout on either the monitor(Viewsonic 4K) or the MacBook. My 16" always took a few seconds to initialize and set resolution while it blacked out.
The monitor resolution switches instantly to native when I open the lid, and reverts back to whatever resolution I have the monitor set at when I close the lid. Instantaneously.
The only thing that takes a few seconds with an external monitor is Wake from Sleep. Whenever the lid is closed or open, the monitor takes a few seconds to turn on. The MacBook Pro's screen will turn instantly on, but my monitor takes its time. No big issue, but a slight annoyance after being able activate the laptop's screen as fast as an iPhone.
Play 4.5 hrs of Civ 6 on 1 battery charge, and it only got a little warm under the right side. That game is unenjoyable on a windows laptop due to fan noise and heat, and unplayable on any other fanless laptop. M1 is truly a game changer.
OMG DAN MAKING THAT POSE IN THE VIDEO THUMBNAIL AGAIN (just like in these last review videos)
Why do EVERYONE make these stupid pointing poses on youtube thumbnails now
Why do EVERYONE make these stupid pointing poses on youtube thumbnails now
I find the mouse plenty for that. But interesting to hear that some prefer a touchscreen.
The 15” MBP has been discontinued, it’s 16” now. Unless you think Apple will make a 15” Air (they won’t). The 13” MBP has been rumored for many months to be upgraded to 14”.
Now? For years, because it works. Weird facial expression and dumb hand pose equals (a lot) more clicks 🤷♂️
I have an iMac (2019) and MacBook Pro (2015) for work and an iPad Pro (2019) for fun. The iPad has some great features and as far as Adobe and Microsoft applications are considered, it's a toy compared to the Macs.
There is no way you can say with a straight face and decent level of knowledge, that the iPad is nearly as efficient as the others when it comes to office work applications. They could put a quantum computer in the iPad form factor and make it free, and I'd still choose the Mac for getting work done.
Since I sometimes use swap even with 64GB RAM, I don't think I'd want one until 32-64GB RAM was available.
And even if there's some sort of virtualization possible, do I really want ARM versions of Linux and Windows? Heck, there is no ARM version of some other OSs that I have VMs for.
edit: while Apple silicon systems with more RAM may in time be suitable for replacing all but Intel virtualization functionality for MOST models, I wonder how long it will be before the Apple silicon chip ecosystem is up to something with massive expandability (RAM, I/O, add-on GPUs, storage, etc) - that is to say, a Mac Pro (presently maxing out at 28 cores, 1.5TB RAM, etc). Even if the per-thread performance of the Apple silicon is substantially higher, a monster like that is hard to beat for some tasks, esp. with high-end GPUs too.
The difference is that a monster system can't yet (perhaps, in terms of expandability, ever) be all on one chip; for a really large system, multiple CPU chips that can communicate and coordinate cache coherency are necessary, a heavily ECC design is VERY desirable (cuts down on random glitches), I/O needs to be massively expandable, remote management support may be needed, etc. That's a far cry from a jumped-up phone/tablet chip ecosystem.
edit 2: hmm, looks like the 28-core in the Mac Pro is on a single chip! Pretty good (although other architectures have gone crazier than that in terms of both cores per chip and threads per core). So maybe inter-CPU-chip communications can wait awhile, but all the rest still applies to a moderately large system (a high-end workstation, more or less).
And even if there's some sort of virtualization possible, do I really want ARM versions of Linux and Windows? Heck, there is no ARM version of some other OSs that I have VMs for.
edit: while Apple silicon systems with more RAM may in time be suitable for replacing all but Intel virtualization functionality for MOST models, I wonder how long it will be before the Apple silicon chip ecosystem is up to something with massive expandability (RAM, I/O, add-on GPUs, storage, etc) - that is to say, a Mac Pro (presently maxing out at 28 cores, 1.5TB RAM, etc). Even if the per-thread performance of the Apple silicon is substantially higher, a monster like that is hard to beat for some tasks, esp. with high-end GPUs too.
The difference is that a monster system can't yet (perhaps, in terms of expandability, ever) be all on one chip; for a really large system, multiple CPU chips that can communicate and coordinate cache coherency are necessary, a heavily ECC design is VERY desirable (cuts down on random glitches), I/O needs to be massively expandable, remote management support may be needed, etc. That's a far cry from a jumped-up phone/tablet chip ecosystem.
edit 2: hmm, looks like the 28-core in the Mac Pro is on a single chip! Pretty good (although other architectures have gone crazier than that in terms of both cores per chip and threads per core). So maybe inter-CPU-chip communications can wait awhile, but all the rest still applies to a moderately large system (a high-end workstation, more or less).
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Well, it's a test of peak performance. Bursty loads exist too. I'd just rather see both the benchmarks if there's going to be an article rounding them all up. And acoustics and other user experience things require trying it yourself.
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Can they? I'm no expert, but with Xeons the norm was 1-4 CPUs per machine, 8 in extreme cases, so I think the cross-connections are too difficult. On top of that, the M1 has on-chip RAM, which may be harder to share across CPUs. My guess was 1, 2, or maaaybe 4 in a Mac Pro, with each being significantly faster than the ones in the Air. Either way, exciting.
I purchased the M1 MacBook Pro, assuming that the fan would allow for better performance under sustained workloads. In the (almost) week that I have been using it, the fan has not come on once (as far as I have been able to discern).
I’ve just ordered my M1 MacBook Pro with 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD. I can’t wait!
Coming from a late 2013 MBP, the difference is going to be phenomenal! I now need to sell the 2014 logic board I was going to use to upgrade the old girl....
Coming from a late 2013 MBP, the difference is going to be phenomenal! I now need to sell the 2014 logic board I was going to use to upgrade the old girl....
I really think that our attitudes to RAM has been shaped by general purpose computing - get as much as you can because you’re going to need it. I paid for 16GB MacBook Pro M1 because it was the most RAM I could get, but I honestly think that 8GB would have been fine. Apple has produced a more complete product with the M1, rather than assembling a bunch of components, and the planned optimisation really seems to have made a huge difference. It would be interesting to see if Windows 10 was able to perform so well on the same hardware. My feeing is that there would be performance gain, but not as much as macOS and M1 apps have been able to achieve.
There’s a long way to go increasing core count—16? 24? 32? 64?—before multi-CPUs would be considered, I think.
Can you imagine?
M2 Macbook Pro 16", 64GB, Mini-LED, no TouchBar, MagSafe
drool
M2 Macbook Pro 16", 64GB, Mini-LED, no TouchBar, MagSafe
drool