Apple Mail - "Not Junk"

jusacruiser

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What happened to the "Not Junk" feature in Apple Mail?

I have been looking high and low for the feature that says that a particular piece of mail is not really junk.

Please advise.
 

Weaselboy

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Whats the quickest way of emptying the junk folder, or can't it be done?
You can set it to delete automatically in a day/week/month in Mail prefs under Accounts - Mailbox Behaviors.



Or you could just go to the Junk folder and hit command-a to select all the hit the delete key.
 

jusacruiser

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You will only see that feature if an email has been tagged "Junk". It then gives you the features you are probably looking for.
What I think I am really looking for is to declare a piece of mail to be "junk." It came to me the normal way into my inbox.....but it is basically spam or junk.....I want to give it a thumbs down or junk rating. :mad:

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You can set it to delete automatically in a day/week/month in Mail prefs under Accounts - Mailbox Behaviors.

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Or you could just go to the Junk folder and hit command-a to select all the hit the delete key.
Hey, what's up Weasel Boy!! Good to see you!!
 

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What I think I am really looking for is to declare a piece of mail to be "junk." It came to me the normal way into my inbox.....but it is basically spam or junk.....I want to give it a thumbs down or junk rating. :mad:
There should by default be a thumbs down in the Mail toolbar. Maybe you dragged it out at some point. Just right click in the Mail toolbar and you will see a selection box come up where you can drag the junk button back into the toolbar.

Haven't seen you around in a bit. :)

 

jusacruiser

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There should by default be a thumbs down in the Mail toolbar. Maybe you dragged it out at some point. Just right click in the Mail toolbar and you will see a selection box come up where you can drag the junk button back into the toolbar.

Haven't seen you around in a bit. :)

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Ok, I will try that. Thanks.
 

porthole2

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Junk mail question.

Looking in my "junk" box, I have the typical emails with the junk icon and colored gold, that are indeed junk.

I also have email in my junk folder that is not junk and colored black. Some of these are forum notifications that I have a rule sending it to a smart folder.
But, even though I have rules set to run before junk they still end up in junk, and some of them in the correct smart folder.

Ideas?

Does constantly clicking on the thumbs down for junk somewhere start bloating a file or rule that may eventually become too big to run efficiently?
 

Randomizer

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Junk mail question.

Looking in my "junk" box, I have the typical emails with the junk icon and colored gold, that are indeed junk.

I also have email in my junk folder that is not junk and colored black. Some of these are forum notifications that I have a rule sending it to a smart folder.
But, even though I have rules set to run before junk they still end up in junk, and some of them in the correct smart folder.

Ideas?

Does constantly clicking on the thumbs down for junk somewhere start bloating a file or rule that may eventually become too big to run efficiently?
Doesn't appear an answer was ever provided ... and I have the same question. My junk folder is filled with some junk and some not. Thumbs down is the only select in the toolbar, even for those that are not junk. So I have no obvious way of marking some items as not junk.
 

Weaselboy

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Doesn't appear an answer was ever provided ... and I have the same question. My junk folder is filled with some junk and some not. Thumbs down is the only select in the toolbar, even for those that are not junk. So I have no obvious way of marking some items as not junk.
I actually has this happen with an email this morning. I noticed if I logged in to icloud.com and looked at the same message in the junk folder there, the "not junk" button was there. This same message in the Mail client junk folder did not have the button. I think what is going on is the messages in the Mail client only have the button if the message was flagged as spam by the local Mail client junk/spam filter. If the message is flagged as junk on the Apple server side it appears to move it to the junk folder at the server side, and the IMAP local client just reflects that without really knowing why.

I noticed this in the message source. So even if you could click not junk, that would not let Apple's servers know the message is not junk. To do that you need to login to icloud.com apparently.

X-CLX-Shades: Junk
X-CLX-Score: -200
X-CLX-UnSpecialScore: -200
X-CLX-Spam: true

Compared to this in a normal message.

X-CLX-Shades: NotJunk
X-CLX-Score: 1005
X-CLX-UnSpecialScore: 221
X-CLX-Spam: false
 

nightcap965

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Computer algorithms will never be able to successfully identify and remove only that mail you don't like. There will always be false positives, and you'll always need to give a quick scan to your junk folder before deleting its contents.
 

Weaselboy

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Computer algorithms will never be able to successfully identify and remove only that mail you don't like. There will always be false positives, and you'll always need to give a quick scan to your junk folder before deleting its contents.
I think everybody understand that, but that is not the issue being discussed here.
 

Randomizer

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exactly. my question revolves around the behavior of the application. Wouldn't it be appropriate to assume that if the piece of mail is in the junk folder that it is being flagged as junk? This being the case, the thumbs up 'not junk' button should be available. Instead I am seeing only the thumbs down 'junk' button. Why give me that selection if it has already been flagged as junk?
 
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exactly. my question revolves around the behavior of the application. Wouldn't it be appropriate to assume that if the piece of mail is in the junk folder that it is being flagged as junk? This being the case, the thumbs up 'not junk' button should be available. Instead I am seeing only the thumbs down 'junk' button. Why give me that selection if it has already been flagged as junk?
I completely agree. This has always been an issue. If the server flags it as spam, the only way to fix it is to go to icloud.com and make the change. I don't see why they can't integrate this into their very own mail client.
 
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mic j

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Totally concur!!! I've been noticing this for a while now and couldn't quite figure out what was going on. Thanks for getting to the bottom of it Weaselboy.
 
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