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Apple Maintains Mac Sales Momentum in Holiday Quarter
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I do feel like they dumbed down the mac line too much when they didnt need to....as the iPad already exists.
Wrong. Gartner counted windows TABLETS but not IPADS! You need to go with the IDC numbers. So, using IDC, apple GAINED marketshare. Yeah, that's what really happened.
So should a PC be classified as having a physical keyboard built in?
Also do you count OSX & IOS as the same operating system? Windows is pretty much the same on an x86 tablet as a x86 desktop or laptop. hmmm.
Not that it matters, but Apple could have had one more mac sale until they introduced the "updated" Mac mini. So many mini disappoints I had.Decided on a Surface Pro3 (will check out SP4), then nothing at all since the mini and the SP3 were both wants and not needs. Maybe somebody will Shut up and take my money in 2015.
*sigh*
Thank god I have a maxed out 2012 Mac Mini
A computer is anything that computes.... I don't see now-a-days how a physical keyboard determines what's a computer and what's not. That's as irrelevant as saying a computer must have an optical drive.
Calculators are not computers, game consoles should not be counted as computers... smartphones aren't counted as computers... although all of these devices could be. iPad and tablets to me are computers, just as every bit that NETBOOKS were. What makes it a computer? Having a general purpose operating system for one. I dunno it gets very blurry with some of these smartphones. They technically are computers but aren't in most views
Yes, I know they use different methodologies. I already said that. I don't need to go with any of the numbers, thanks.
Not sure what you mean by "pretty much the same" because I can't run world of warcraft on a windows tablet(last I checked).
*ahem*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_jkuCS_P-A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi5I0Fouoog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2nCpSR6en0
many more examples as old as 3 years ago.
I'm imagining it. The griping from those whose priorities are different would have been unbearable. Thanks, Apple, for sparing us!
A PC comprises a tower (or pizza box), a separate screen, and a keyboard. And slots for expandability.
Laptops, notebooks, and (heavens, no!) sub-notebooks barely qualify as computing devices. They are certainly not REAL PCs.
At least, that's how the argument went several years ago, and I'm not aware of any officially recognized body that gone through the proper channels to obtain clear definitions agreed on by the Userazzi to adjust those obvious (to anyone who isn't completely wrong) definitions of what is a PC and what is not.
IMO, the majority are. The build quality pretty much sucks. Trust your wife.
I often use a 14" HP Envy for work and have really loved using that machine over the last 2 or so years.
HP introduced a nice Stream series in both Chrome OS and Windows variants. I'm sure Dell is still doing pretty good with its Inspiron line too and maybe selling some Chromebooks.
So they're growing at the lowend.
For the sake of clarification what is the definition of a PC in the context of these statistics?
Is it the operating system or the hardware that differentiate a PC versus other? Isn't the trajectory of tablets, smartphones and phablets heading toward functioning as practical PC devices?
Is it the operating system or the hardware that differentiate a PC versus other? Isn't the trajectory of tablets, smartphones and phablets heading toward functioning as practical PC devices?
Except devices running a mobile OS sure counted as mobile devices. Windows Tablets, aside from RT, run the same Windows as a desktop and laptop. There is a huge difference.
Of course they let you upgrade. Used Macs hold their resale value so well that you can often upgrade by selling the old one and buying a new model for not that much more than the price of new components plus a year or two of AppleCare.
PCs are different because their resale value typically drops so much faster.
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Compared to the Apple II+, Original IBM PC or PC XT, they are Supercomputers. Even including recent iPads and iPhones as typical personal computing devices, they are all way faster than a Cray YMP super-computer of the same vintage as the Original IBM Personal Computer or Original Mac 128k.
*warning* Highly subjective opinion:
Is it me, or is Apple news this period just depressing?
Apple is doing fine, Macs, iPhones and iPads are still better than the competition overall, and the company has enough money to declare itself an independent state. But it really feels the post-Jobs era is starting to show.
Where are the new stuff that the rest of the industry typically copies? Be it technologies, interfaces, or industrial design. It's the first time a new OSX came out and I just can't even be bothered installing it. Plus it looks kinda meh. The new iPhone is probably the ugliest device of the last decade, and the iPad has almost a desktop level CPU, but still cant handle chatting and browsing at the same time.
Maybe this is a very personal disillusionment here, but I used to be the 100% fanboy, and gradually, for the past 2-3 years, I simply don't care what's coming out of Cupertino. All the news are about lawsuits, more vendor lock-in, crippling bugs, soulless marketing, and.. a fat watch to have annoying marketing notifications on your wrist.
I mean, I get it. When you are on the top of your game, why bother innovate and risk. Just focus on fashion and brand, and let someone else do the geeky stuff.
Still, it looks to me that Apple has focused so much on the super-high-profit-margin tip of the market, that at some point the only competing advantage that is left is the brand. I used to believe everyone should buy a Mac, because it was technology at it's best, how computing is supposed to be experienced. But today? Not so much anymore.
The competition is moving fast, and we're reaching the point where the question "Why should I pay way more to get that Mac/iPhone/iPad again?" doesn't have a very substantial answer.
Is it me, or is Apple news this period just depressing?
Apple is doing fine, Macs, iPhones and iPads are still better than the competition overall, and the company has enough money to declare itself an independent state. But it really feels the post-Jobs era is starting to show.
Where are the new stuff that the rest of the industry typically copies? Be it technologies, interfaces, or industrial design. It's the first time a new OSX came out and I just can't even be bothered installing it. Plus it looks kinda meh. The new iPhone is probably the ugliest device of the last decade, and the iPad has almost a desktop level CPU, but still cant handle chatting and browsing at the same time.
Maybe this is a very personal disillusionment here, but I used to be the 100% fanboy, and gradually, for the past 2-3 years, I simply don't care what's coming out of Cupertino. All the news are about lawsuits, more vendor lock-in, crippling bugs, soulless marketing, and.. a fat watch to have annoying marketing notifications on your wrist.
I mean, I get it. When you are on the top of your game, why bother innovate and risk. Just focus on fashion and brand, and let someone else do the geeky stuff.
Still, it looks to me that Apple has focused so much on the super-high-profit-margin tip of the market, that at some point the only competing advantage that is left is the brand. I used to believe everyone should buy a Mac, because it was technology at it's best, how computing is supposed to be experienced. But today? Not so much anymore.
The competition is moving fast, and we're reaching the point where the question "Why should I pay way more to get that Mac/iPhone/iPad again?" doesn't have a very substantial answer.