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Ever seen the new maps rolled out, in CarPlay it showed an icon when approaching a speed camera. Perhaps that feature hadn't rolled out to everyone or something, or maybe the new iOS 14 feature is that now it will warn you ahead of time, as well as being able to avoid them in your directions or such?
 
Welcome to Southeastern PA where the speed limits on the interstate range from 35MPH to 55MPH.

That may be the case, but the impression you gave was that all the interstates in PA are capped then at a max of 55mph, which is not the case (e.g. the Turnpike has a large part set at 70MPH).
 
That may be the case, but the impression you gave was that all the interstates in PA are capped then at a max of 55mph, which is not the case (e.g. the Turnpike has a large part set at 70MPH).

I didn't state that PA caps all interstates in the entire state at 55MPH. I accurately stated that where I am in the NE the Interstate Speed Limit is capped at 55MPH. Which is exactly the case.
 
Still needs the crowdsourcing. That's what sets Waze apart and better than any other nav app out there. Aside from police speed traps, the automatic re-routing based on traffic and/or accidents based on crowdsourcing is just so valuable.

I really hope Apple adds that feature someday so I can stop contributing to Google's ad revenue.
 
Still needs the crowdsourcing. That's what sets Waze apart and better than any other nav app out there. Aside from police speed traps, the automatic re-routing based on traffic and/or accidents based on crowdsourcing is just so valuable.

I really hope Apple adds that feature someday so I can stop contributing to Google's ad revenue.
This.
Without this, it will never replace Waze. Never.
 
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Give us something relevant we actually could use , like POLICE reports / Speed Traps

This. I use Waze every day, even though it's abysmal as a navigation system is still alerts me about speed traps and other hazards which I find immensely useful. Apple seems years behind on this. No reason they can't have the crowd sourcing either, they just have to build that into their system, well unless Waze/Google have this patented? Maybe they can at least license it if that's the case.
 
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I didn't state that PA caps all interstates in the entire state at 55MPH. I accurately stated that where I am in the NE the Interstate Speed Limit is capped at 55MPH. Which is exactly the case.

Actually, you said NE US - hence my initial question. The North East US pretty much covers New England and some surrounding states.

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This. I use Waze every day, even though it's abysmal as a navigation system is still alerts me about speed traps and other hazards which I find immensely useful. Apple seems years behind on this. No reason they can't have the crowd sourcing either, they just have to build that into their system, well unless Waze/Google have this patented? Maybe they can at least license it if that's the case.
Abysmal? I have never had any problem in the last 4 years if using it. What is abysmal about it?
 
Abysmal? I have never had any problem in the last 4 years if using it. What is abysmal about it?

Sounds like other user is trying really hard to not admit that Apple Maps is just trash. Still needs a lot of catchup work. I agree that there's nothing wrong with Waze's navigation.
 
Where I live the cameras are put on problem intersections. I’ve seen people slam on the brakes, which can cause accidents because they were not paying attention and only notice them at the last second. I wouldn’t mind this because it helps prevent the brake-slamming yet still lets The intersection benefit from the reduced accidents.
If you mean red light ones I agree on those. They can be incorrect, and it does cause people to slam brakes on yellow, especially when the time for the yellow is way lower than the speed limit warrants.
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I prefer that mentality.
I just dislike the red light cameras with the yellow time way too low for the speed limit.
 
Abysmal? I have never had any problem in the last 4 years if using it. What is abysmal about it?

Sounds like other user is trying really hard to not admit that Apple Maps is just trash. Still needs a lot of catchup work. I agree that there's nothing wrong with Waze's navigation.

I don't have a particular opinion on Apple maps really, I don't use it often enough. I appreciate the opinion but I'd rather you not put words in my mouth. I do find Waze navigation abysmal but my reasoning is based on years of using it and way too much to discuss on here. I will give a few examples though.

From my work to get home I have 2 major highway routes I can take. 1 is my preferred route, it's shorter but often has traffic and I end up taking a 2nd longer route. For the past 3 or 4 years I've noted Waze' navigation is completely off on the level of traffic and its route suggestions. It will almost always route me to the 2nd longer route if I program it at work, but when I get closer to the point of having to turn to either route then it will route me to the 1st route only if I manually re route. If I didn't manually re route then I'd be stuck on the 2nd longer route with much more traffic and a much longer commute. We are talking about maybe 5-7 minutes/6 miles from work to this juncture point. I've been doing this experiment 5 days a week for the past 3 or 4 years and it hasn't improved. Basically Waze is incorrect about the shortest time and/or best route.

With the pandemic this issue has actually been worse in some ways. Now that there is no traffic I continue experimenting with this. What I notice now is, with no traffic, Waze will always route me to the 2nd longer route even though it's both longer in distance AND longer in time. I do have it in my settings to prefer the shorter time routes so I can't fathom why it's choosing the longer duration route, and even though re routing shows the 1st route is of shorter duration Waze still insists on the 2nd route. In fact that's another peeve, when I want a different route and select it Waze still re routes the original route for some reason and I can only force it to re route with physically driving my car on the different route.

Also it's almost every day where Waze routes me on some torturous, weird route to get to the highway, I wouldn't know this if I didn't take these routes every day. So even though I know making a left and then a right brings me right to the highway, Waze wants me take many more turns in the opposite direction to get onto the highway at a spot farther away than my work. Re routing doesn't show the optimal route, and when I force Waze to re route by taking the right way my commute suddenly drops 3-4 minutes in time.

Another pet peeve, NO LANE ASSISTANCE. Try driving in and around Manhattan, NY, NJ, Long Island, etc with no lane assistance, it's a nightmare. Google maps and even Apple maps has this, I'm not sure why Waze doesn't have it yet. This alone puts Google/Apple maps (and even the crappy built in navigation on my Acura) way above Waze. For navigation to areas I'm not familiar with I will typically use Google/Apple/Acura and let Waze run in the background, thankfully crowdsourced alerts still pop up on Carplay, but it's not the same as having Waze fully open.

Another pet peeve is that Waze has that chime whenever you miss a turn, it completely turns off your audio for a couple of seconds and is annoying as hell and there is no way to turn it off. The issue is that when I'm going to work I know the best route, but Waze keeps routing me to make a left turn to get on a parallel road that is typically backed up and I don't want to take. For my first 10 miles there are literally a dozen left turns, which means my podcast idiotically gets interrupted a dozen times.

I've got a bunch more, with most of these issues not fixed even after years and years of using Waze (and yes I do submit bug reports, feedback, and participate on their forums). Why do I keep using it? Because the crowdsourcing is incredibly invaluable, and the traffic reports are valuable if you know how to work around their goofiness. By goofiness I mean often something like traffic or accident reports aren't relevant or timely. If I leave work at 9:15am and miss the morning 9-5 traffic why is my route being affected by a 40 minute old traffic report that isn't accurate anymore? There is plenty of traffic around it that crowdsourcing should be providing more updated traffic patterns.
 
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You think it's dangerous to point out speed cameras, thus motivating people to slow down... Do you understand the supposed purpose of speed cameras?

The problem is that if you need a feature to tell you where speed cameras are so that you slow down, it's because you were exceeding the speed limit. While I'm hearing that in the US (at least some states) the speed limit is set arbitrarily, many other countries have switched to setting speed limits based on an assessment of road design when used by the average driver (a different interpretation of 85th percentile). In these cases, research has shown that moderating the speeds drivers choose to reduce spread has safety benefits.

The claimed idea behind visible speed traps (marked vehicles in obvious locations, or police officers standing beside the road holding up Trucams) is that people should think that speed cameras could be anywhere, so drive to the speed limit everywhere (noting that devices have a margin of error of roughly 2km/hr so sane jurisdictions subtract 2km/hr from the detected speed, and also apply an additional margin to account for speedometer drift and driver inattention - because you can't pay attention just to the speedometer).

Hidden speed traps I don't see the point of - you don't learn anything from a fine in the post two weeks later.
 
I don't have a particular opinion on Apple maps really, I don't use it often enough. I appreciate the opinion but I'd rather you not put words in my mouth. I do find Waze navigation abysmal but my reasoning is based on years of using it and way too much to discuss on here. I will give a few examples though.

From my work to get home I have 2 major highway routes I can take. 1 is my preferred route, it's shorter but often has traffic and I end up taking a 2nd longer route. For the past 3 or 4 years I've noted Waze' navigation is completely off on the level of traffic and its route suggestions. It will almost always route me to the 2nd longer route if I program it at work, but when I get closer to the point of having to turn to either route then it will route me to the 1st route only if I manually re route. If I didn't manually re route then I'd be stuck on the 2nd longer route with much more traffic and a much longer commute. We are talking about maybe 5-7 minutes/6 miles from work to this juncture point. I've been doing this experiment 5 days a week for the past 3 or 4 years and it hasn't improved. Basically Waze is incorrect about the shortest time and/or best route.

With the pandemic this issue has actually been worse in some ways. Now that there is no traffic I continue experimenting with this. What I notice now is, with no traffic, Waze will always route me to the 2nd longer route even though it's both longer in distance AND longer in time. I do have it in my settings to prefer the shorter time routes so I can't fathom why it's choosing the longer duration route, and even though re routing shows the 1st route is of shorter duration Waze still insists on the 2nd route. In fact that's another peeve, when I want a different route and select it Waze still re routes the original route for some reason and I can only force it to re route with physically driving my car on the different route.

Also it's almost every day where Waze routes me on some torturous, weird route to get to the highway, I wouldn't know this if I didn't take these routes every day. So even though I know making a left and then a right brings me right to the highway, Waze wants me take many more turns in the opposite direction to get onto the highway at a spot farther away than my work. Re routing doesn't show the optimal route, and when I force Waze to re route by taking the right way my commute suddenly drops 3-4 minutes in time.

Another pet peeve, NO LANE ASSISTANCE. Try driving in and around Manhattan, NY, NJ, Long Island, etc with no lane assistance, it's a nightmare. Google maps and even Apple maps has this, I'm not sure why Waze doesn't have it yet. This alone puts Google/Apple maps (and even the crappy built in navigation on my Acura) way above Waze. For navigation to areas I'm not familiar with I will typically use Google/Apple/Acura and let Waze run in the background, thankfully crowdsourced alerts still pop up on Carplay, but it's not the same as having Waze fully open.

Another pet peeve is that Waze has that chime whenever you miss a turn, it completely turns off your audio for a couple of seconds and is annoying as hell and there is no way to turn it off. The issue is that when I'm going to work I know the best route, but Waze keeps routing me to make a left turn to get on a parallel road that is typically backed up and I don't want to take. For my first 10 miles there are literally a dozen left turns, which means my podcast idiotically gets interrupted a dozen times.

I've got a bunch more, with most of these issues not fixed even after years and years of using Waze (and yes I do submit bug reports, feedback, and participate on their forums). Why do I keep using it? Because the crowdsourcing is incredibly invaluable, and the traffic reports are valuable if you know how to work around their goofiness. By goofiness I mean often something like traffic or accident reports aren't relevant or timely. If I leave work at 9:15am and miss the morning 9-5 traffic why is my route being affected by a 40 minute old traffic report that isn't accurate anymore? There is plenty of traffic around it that crowdsourcing should be providing more updated traffic patterns.
Well that certainly sounds terrible. My original question was one out of genuine curiosity. I guess in my medium sized town, I have not had these problems.
 
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heres a shocking revelation, not speeding also means you avoid a ticket, ever think of that?

honestly this feature needs to be illegal. It’s not ok to point out speed cameras to help morons break the law more easily.
This varies from country to country, but the point of speed cameras is supposed to be so drivers slow down on certain parts of road where there have in the past been more accidents or instances of people driving dangerously. At least for countries where speed cameras are accompanied by warnings on approach.

The authorities want you to know there's a speed camera there so people pay attention to their driving at that spot, so having them in route guidance apps is absolutely a good idea and not something that should be illegal.
 
Actually, you said NE US - hence my initial question. The North East US pretty much covers New England and some surrounding states.

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Thanks for the screenshot, but I didn't say the entire NE US. I stated "Where I live in the NE US..." limiting the scope I was speaking with regard to as a subset of the NE US. I didn't mention my city specifically to protect my privacy, but nothing in my statement was inaccurate.
 
If people only notice red lights at the last second maybe they shouldn't be driving. Seriously these features need ti be banned from all navigation apps. Why should someone know when they can jump a red light or speed and not get caught! Driving is still one of the biggest killers out there and no one seems to be doing anything but encourage it and bad or illegal habits.

1) The red light cameras also do speed.

2) It's not that they don't notice the yellow/red lights, but rather that they think they can get through them before the traffic from the new right of way starts. Then they notice the cameras. These intersections are chosen because of issues like this (At one, when I first started to drive, I almost got T-boned by a semi running a red light (40/45 in a 35). Thank goodness for a bad idle and me forgetting I was in neutral).
 
Ever seen the new maps rolled out, in CarPlay it showed an icon when approaching a speed camera. Perhaps that feature hadn't rolled out to everyone or something, or maybe the new iOS 14 feature is that now it will warn you ahead of time, as well as being able to avoid them in your directions or such?

I have tried CarPlay with iOS 14 today and didnt see anything about on map today , I hope it will roll out to Hong Kong soon
 
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