Apple Maps Now Supports Transit in Estonia and Rome, Italy

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot

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    Apple Maps now includes transit information for Estonia and the city of Rome, Italy, enabling users in the areas to navigate with public transportation.

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    In Rome, transit data covers the city's public metro lines, buses, and tram routes, as well as the local Trenitalia network which includes the Leonardo Express that connects Roma Termini station and Roma Fiumicino airport in Lazio.

    Transit coverage across Estonia includes the capital Tallinn's bus, tram, trolleybus, and Elron train services, as well as local links to the country's national rail network reaching through Tartu, Pärnu, and Narva.

    The public transport information can be accessed by tapping the Transit tab or button in Apple Maps on iPhone, iPad, Mac, or Apple Watch.

    Apple started adding transit information to Apple Maps three years ago, starting with Baltimore, Berlin, Boston, Chicago, London, Los Angeles, Mexico City, New York, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Sydney, Toronto, and China. Apple has since expanded transit coverage to additional cities around the globe.

    Apple is gradually catching up with Google Maps' public transportation navigation coverage, which already includes Rome and cities in Estonia. Apple also recently revealed that CarPlay will support Google Maps, Waze, and other third-party navigation apps with a paired iPhone running iOS 12.

    (Thanks, Ram!)

    Article Link: Apple Maps Now Supports Transit in Estonia and Rome, Italy
     
  2. twinlight macrumors 6502a

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    Oh great. My upcoming vacation in Rome, Italy just got better!
     
  3. IGI2 macrumors 6502

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    Nice!

    Waiting for more European countries : )
     
  4. MrChurchyard macrumors member

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    Just a heads up: Public transit in Rome is super unreliable, particularly bus; subway and trams (line 8 in particular) are ok.
     
  5. bLackjackj macrumors member

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    Your vacation got better because of an iPhone app?,..very sad, Lol

    Why does everyone believe that something doesn't exist until apple release it,..have you heard of Google maps? It's about 10x better than apple maps!
     
  6. silvetti macrumors 6502a

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    Maybe because we don't want to provide our data for free to Google so they can monetize it? That's just one of the ideas that popped in my head for your question.

    Edit:
    Just went thru your post history and now your comment to the other forum member makes sense.
    You just like arguing :)
     
  7. DanielDD macrumors 6502

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    Are you really gonna drive in Rome? Wish you luck.

    Just landed in Rome. I was looking at traffic in Apple Maps on my way to the train station. I only realized it is a new feature here after checking MacRumors
     
  8. Aluminum213 macrumors 68040

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    Your vacation will be a lot better if you used Google maps

    Enjoy driving your car right through the Colosseum when you were trying to get to the Vatican
     
  9. truthertech macrumors 68000

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    Keep telling yourself that. Given the choice between all the free and good mapping apps, which all can be installed in less than 60 seconds, the vast majority of people now choose Apple Maps over Google maps for their iPhones and hundreds of millions of people use that "horrible Apple Maps" to the tune of many BILLION times a week. Also keep telling yourself that while Google tracks everywhere you go and what you do along the way and adds it to your "universal identifier" that ties together your photos, documents, email, posts, contacts, searches, etc., into your personal dossier available to hackers, government agencies, intel, successor companies, their own companies, etc.

    The other thing you are missing out on is that Apple transit information is far better than Google's. Apple could have done what Google did and turned on transit information everywhere by simply importing the third party transit data, but Apple saw the criticism Google gets for transit and decided to build a better experience. It takes a lot more time and money to do what Apple is doing, but they are customizing the transit experience in each region. Here's a great article that explains why it takes longer, but is a far better experience than Google's

    https://appleinsider.com/articles/16/07/07/why-apples-transit-maps-are-rolling-out-so-slowly
     
  10. mdellepi macrumors regular

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    I'm seriously waiting for an expansion of transit support in Maps. While the rest of the app is still quite limited with respect to Google Maps, I find Apple's implementation of public transport much clearer and nicer.
     
  11. siim_kuusik macrumors newbie

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    Can confirm that it works here in Estonia
     
  12. n-evo macrumors 65816

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    Yeah you're in for a treat with the state Rome's public transport system and infrastructure's in. No app is going to compensate for that.

    Good luck and Godspeed!
     
  13. nburwell macrumors 601

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    I thought the same exact thing! This will be super helpful for our trip to Italy in the fall.
     
  14. TheWatchfulOne macrumors 6502

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    I'm sure getting around in a foreign county where you aren't fluent in the language (making assumptions here) can be stressful. If Apple Maps will help him/her get around more easily then that's one less thing to stress about. By definition, less stress, does make a vacation better.

    That is a common misconception. They both have mistakes and most of the time they are the same mistakes. I've seen places where Apple got it right and Google didn't. I hear Google's transit data is often criticized. Apple is taking the time to get transit data correct in every place they offer it, hence the gradual rollout. And transit data is what we are talking about here.
     
  15. bLackjackj macrumors member

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    Really? Yet you're okay having a Facebook account and using Google Search?...ahhh, the hypocrisy.

    I like arguing or having a logical point of view :) ...an app don't maketh' a holiday.
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    Actually the figures ARE NOT towards Apples favor, so maybe you should do better research, Lol

    You can actually turn off tracking, if you like I can point your to the updated privacy options? And yet you have Facebook, but are complaining about universal identifiers? I guess if you have something to worry about, then it probably isn't Google you should be worried about. :)

    https://www.dailydot.com/debug/waze-vs-google-maps-vs-apple-maps/

    https://bgr.com/2017/12/21/google-maps-vs-apple-maps-comparison-detail-buildings/

    https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/06/15/widespread-outage-strikes-apple-maps-search-directions
     
  16. truthertech macrumors 68000

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    Who said anything about using Facebook? I see you couldn't find any articles to dispute the figures about Apple Maps usage. Not surprising since no one disputes that Apple Maps started from zero and has kept growing and now has left Google Maps in the dust as far as usage by iOS users. Your articles are a pretty desperate attempt to avoid the truth that Apple Maps is now the overwhelming choice of most iOS users and is used many Billions of times a week. That you had to bring up irrelevant articles about usage speaks volumes.
     
  17. bLackjackj macrumors member

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    You, you whinged about privacy,..yet have no issues owning a Facebook account. :)

    Overwhelming to you maybe? Apple cannot compete on usage and updates...unfortunately.

    It's pretty clear that Google leads the way in Maps, as advised in the articles,..and I think we can now put that argument to rest. Have a read, you may learn a thing or 2 about the negatives of Apples Maps.
     
  18. silvetti macrumors 6502a

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    I use DuckDuckGo.
    Why do you assume everyone uses Google?
     
  19. bLackjackj macrumors member

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    So you use DuckDuckGo because apparently no one can know your browsing history & then you use Facebook,..highly regarded for their lack of tracking :rolleyes:,..yep, makes sense.
     
  20. silvetti macrumors 6502a

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    So because I chose to use one it means I must use the other?
    Sure buddy.
     
  21. DeepIn2U macrumors 603

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    Nice in ass-u-ming the person you quoted uses FaceBook or Google Search. You should try asking that. Also note amongst the tweens and teens FaceBook is dropping off in use, popularity to Youtube and soon Instagram (over a billion members already just like FB).

    Further your links for rebuttal are over 6mths old, one of which doesn't state which is better than the other just a days outtage and said article did NOT update as it was a developing story; lazy editors. The last link is less than 30 days old.

    Are you able to provide links with iOS users in higher numbers NOT happy with iOS Maps and happier with Google Maps? nothing you posted stated this ... only the first link states comparison of maps which is the opinion of that editor not a collective or tally consensus.

    https://www.dailydot.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/waze-copy-1154x1024.jpg

    ^ to me that app Waze is a pain in the arse:
    More icons to deal with that are ON the path to me is ridiculous (like the Biofore from Microsoft's Tile Start menu had a hand in Waze UI).
    Map Chat ... ROFLMAO seriously?! Does anyone really want to chat about their app and what it shows while driving? I should really ask that but I'm more shocked how backwards to implement this is.
    Oh look an icon stating Maps Issue ... which doesn't say much. Why not a banner that scrolls a brief explanation at the top? Something with more info to select.

    The part you're mistaking is the integration of Apple Maps into IOS:
    Messages, Mail, Browser ... anything that has a Map in the core system it's selectable into Apple Maps and vice versa (like adding an address to a calendar or contact as a work address). Google Maps works this way for Android.

    I grew up before the Internet ... had 2yrs in BBS before internet ... watched the internet search wars ... sadly somehow in college I didn't notice where Google came from and then suddenly the last semester it was "google it" to which I replied "what you talking bout Willis?" lol. There are alternatives out there and soon enough Google may not be the search king any longer.

    signs of change:
    When Apple implements a new engine as a primary selection (user changeable after shipping),
    When Samsung chooses a different search engine as default.
    ... when Google's valuation begins to drop!

    I see Googles new Voice tech called 'Duplex' to be their major bread n butter when search as it stands is no longer useful as the data within it is corrupted, non-identifiable, and user opt-out with many of the data useless to those placing ads.

    Mark my words:
    When targeted, revenue building, user opted-in ads debut, and end users begin demanding (in 100's of millions) a more lucrative type of reward system and/or demand a reward system that allows end users to share the ad to better benefit them and their friends ... you'll see either Google rapidly adapting or collapse.

    examples:
    Refer your friend to watch said ad ... you both get a $5 discount on your monthly cellphone bill immediately,
    refer your friend to said cellular provider you get a bonus of 1GB/mth added on for 12mths - even if your friend doesn't stay that long, bonus 2GB if a 2yr contract is signed.
    You watch a Victoria Secret ad of 15 seconds you get a 10% discount valid for 30 days, Share the ad on FB, IG, Snap, etc to your friends - you get 30% discount, they get the same individual discount as you did, OR, they get 15%. When multiple's of 10 occur your percentage goes up 1% ever 10th person.
    Ads pop-up on free apps that's in your mobile OS ... you get free $12 lunch that day for one company (not ad at first, 5yrs later then per ad),
    Car ads bump up your AirMiles travel miles, unless you purchase in 3 mths then you get $3000 off price of your car - NOT redeemable in cash to take home BUT you can reduce cost of options selected on your car.
    Car insurance ads:
    - you get 15% discount on first month bill if you switch,
    - you get 10% discount on total year for staying,
    - you get 5% discount for sharing to 10 friends,
    - you get 7% discount for sharing to 10 friends with comment of recommendation.
    Select a new online Tax service which offers for free, you get $500 of the taxes you owe on assessment paid for by them (for having such a vital piece of your private data)! Returning customers get PAID money via direct deposit.

    Android smartphones should NOT cost anywhere close to iPhone since that OS and apps are free and paid for by advertisement dollars. Their increasing device cost doesn't have to factor in R&D or licensing fees.

    The way I see it:
    my thoughts, actions, my person, my abilities and my choices are that of my own. I'm not a whore nor a slave expected to give these up for frivilous things that don't allow me the honor, respect, nor decency to regain these all at once and put a stop to the data mining. You gotta ask yourself, "if nobody is forcing anyone to choose free to give up personal data/privacy, who is there to place a FULL stop on your information from being used again once you stand up for yourself to say no more?"
     

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