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Not Sure how you can say that Apple Maps is “terrible”, which could be variable based on someone’s experience in location. I use Apple Maps every single day and it’s never failed me. It’s greatly improved from where it was once, and it gives me all the necessary information I need to get to my destination the quickest and best route. I don’t even use Google maps anymore, even though Google maps is very good.


The other huge advantage Apple Maps has is privacy protection. Google logs every use of Google Maps and adds it to your "universal identifier" number which has your gmails, every web search and click, every photo, every thing said in front of assistant, your contacts, every document uploaded, etc., all available to hackers, intel agencies, law enforcement, and any company Google works with or decides to sell it to (not currently done, but read your terms of service, they retain the right to sell or transfer it to other companies).
 
Saw one drive by when I was eating out in Columbus. Thought it was a google map car but it was all white matching the description in the picture.
 
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Funny you say that, a couple weeks ago Google maps lead me to a street closed off with downed power lines, and lead me to a 10 minute detour in the process. I compared routes prior to my trip, and only Apple Maps had it right.

Are you saying that Apple Maps knew about downed power lines, which presumably happened very close to when they caused you a problem?
 
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They've already been shown to be the most accurate. There's a reason Apple Maps is by far the most used mapping app on the iPhone beyond it being pre-installed, because, of course, people wouldn't use a mapping service that was inaccurate when they have multiple free options, like Google Maps, etc., that can be downloaded in less than a minute. Indeed, when Apple last reported it a couple of years ago, Apple Maps was being used several BILLION times a week.

Apple Maps has been shown to be the most accurate? What’s your source for that statement?
 
They've already been shown to be the most accurate. There's a reason Apple Maps is by far the most used mapping app on the iPhone beyond it being pre-installed, because, of course, people wouldn't use a mapping service that was inaccurate when they have multiple free options, like Google Maps, etc., that can be downloaded in less than a minute. Indeed, when Apple last reported it a couple of years ago, Apple Maps was being used several BILLION times a week.

Which voice assistant is used the most on Apple iDevices? So that one is the best right? And if we asked Apple that question, they would confirm it's the most used at billions of times each month... so that makes it the best, right?

Default is very powerful in terms of usage claims.

And if a seller is reporting that theirs is best, caveat emptor.
 
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Are you saying that Apple Maps knew about downed power lines, which presumably happened very close to when they caused you a problem?
Yes, it knew that road was inaccessible and had a different route that was longer. That's why I used Google Maps, but it ultimately lead me to the detour Apple was trying to take me.
 
Yeah, totally agree with what you said. I have been using Apple Maps + CarPlay + Waze in the background with alerts since I got my car in 2016.

Last year, I was on I-87, Apple Maps told me to get off and use US9. I didn't listen, thinking apple maps is going crazy. Later Waze informed me "estimated time in traffic, 1 hour".


Yes, Apple added rerouting two years ago and it works excellent. It has been shown to be most accurate. I travel extensively and used Google maps in the beginning because AM was so bad. Over time Apple Maps has overtaken Google Maps in terms of interface and accuracy, with GM still having better search for obscure places. I still frequently put both on to compare accuracy and both are quite good, but AM now has the edge. I especially find that Google's recommended detours frequently don't make sense or don't save time but just end up going through a bunch of side streets.
 
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Apple Maps van has one jacked up tire and a flat. No wonder maps can't find ****! Lol


I believe the "flat" is just where Mac Rumors cropped the bottom of the image, and tires look fine since appears there was a background, but MacRumors quickly cropped it out and then added a drop shadow in photoshop.
 
Which voice assistant is used the most on Apple iDevices? So that one is the best right? And if we asked Apple they question, that would confirm it's the most used... so that makes it the best, right?

Default is very powerful in terms of usage claims.

And if the seller is reporting that theirs is best, carpe diem.


What is significant is that Google was default, and then was the one recommended by Apple, but Apple Maps usage steadily grew to overtake it by a long shot. The other key thing is that everybody knows about Google Maps, it's free and take a minute to download and is default on most web sites. Inaccurate mapping isn't something that people would put up with as they need to get where they are going when they need to be there, so having BILLIONS of uses a week is significant.
 
Yes, it knew that road was inaccessible and had a different route that was longer. That's why I used Google Maps, but it ultimately lead me to the detour Apple was trying to take me.

Any sense of how long those power lines had been down? What usually makes that happen is maybe a very recent storm. Unless they were down for an extended period- maybe a construction project- I'm finding it hard to believe Apple Maps is that responsive. In my experience, AM will generally not even know about a new road for upwards of a few years after it's in use. Responsiveness measured in minutes or hours or even days seems nearly unbelievable relative to my own experiences with AM. Nevertheless, since you say so, I'll try to believe AM is that responsive now. That would be amazing if AM or Google can know such things within minutes or hours of detour-driving events. Traffic is one thing (because there's so many reporting devices) but lines down on some road won't necessarily be as readily documented.
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What is significant is that Google was default, and then was the one recommended by Apple, but Apple Maps usage steadily grew to overtake it by a long shot. The other key thing is that everybody knows about Google Maps, it's free and take a minute to download and is default on most web sites. Inaccurate mapping isn't something that people would put up with as they need to get where they are going when they need to be there, so having BILLIONS of uses a week is significant.

Speaking for myself here: Google > AM. Since AM is default, I'll sometimes gamble on it instead of going to the trouble of punching my target into GM. With the default, it's often one step. With the non-default, there's more steps. So I gamble sometimes that AM will get it right.

In your post about billions of users, I would count. If it's actually billions of uses, I would be several of those. But if I had the option, I'd default to always use GM because it generally does a better job of being right about getting me where I want to go.

I would guess that lots of GM users do the same thing- that is, gamble that the default option will work "this time."

And, sometimes it does work just fine. But not often enough for my purposes. Similarly, sometimes GM fails me (too), but not that often. On some non-scientific basis, GM seems to have better data. When getting to my destination is not urgent, I may gamble on the default. When it is urgent, I'll go to the trouble of going with the one more likely to get it right. Either can get it right or let me down for any given location. But one generally seems to outperform the other in my own experience.

Thus, I- for one- DO put up with inaccurate mapping sometimes. And I count toward those billions of uses each week. Sometimes, it gets me where I want to go. Sometimes it misses. GM does the same. But GM tends to (seem to) be right more often than AM. If I could default GM instead of AM, I would.

Lastly, AM overtook GM nearly overnight, not "steadily grew." Netscape was dominant browser and IE rapidly overtook Netscape too. Default is powerful. It doesn't make the default option better. It's just default, so it wins by being default.

If Apple decided to give up on AM and default to Waze, Waze would quickly become most used (in the billions) by Apple people. That wouldn't make it better either- just default.
 
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Street view would be nice but we are still waiting for any sort of bicycle directions or at least a layer showing bike paths and lanes. It's as if Apple only cares about the suburbs and rural areas.
 
They need to update their satellite images.
The satellite view of downtown Seattle on Apple Maps is at least 8 years old.
Makes for a very dated "Fly Over" when using that feature.
 
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Traffic is one thing (because there's so many reporting devices) but lines down on some road won't necessarily
My guess is that Apple Maps saw traffic as stopped along that section of the map, and routed around the problem. It isn’t that it knows specifically about the reason. It could react to very obscure delays because it’s all “traffic.”
 
40 states and 10 countries since 2015?

If you are going to be competitive, it needs to be at least comparable in coverage to the already existing competitor product. Otherwise it will be rightly derided at launch. It’s like the lesson of the HomePod hasn’t been heeded.
Apple Maps needs serious resources thrown at it. Add feature if it can beat the competitor’s product.
 
Apple maps is more accurate than google maps, that's news to me. I use apple maps but then use google or waze to double check the route. One time I was using apple maps to get me to a golf course and it led me to a nearby subdivision and told me to park and walk, part of the walk would have had me trekking through a wetland. lol
 
My guess is that Apple Maps saw traffic as stopped along that section of the map, and routed around the problem. It isn’t that it knows specifically about the reason. It could react to very obscure delays because it’s all “traffic.”

Yes, again, I wasn't really expecting it to know the cause- just marveling at the apparent responsiveness. Around here, power lines down is something that happens sometimes after a big storm. Typically, they won't be down for long (maybe hours? Rarely days). For ANY mapping app to notice that quickly seems like it would have to be watching that specific area at exactly that (short window of time) time, have some very impressive, prioritized reporting system that responds very quickly when people there report the detour, or it starts getting into the magical.

Highway traffic is pretty quickly caught in GM because so many people are affected. But something like power lines on some road somewhere would affect very few (relatively).

Hopefully Apple- or anyone else- is not able to watch so closely that they can spot something like that within a few hours of it happening. But this report implies that... or fast reporting by people/devices there... resulting in updates so that it could reroute that user.

I'm still in the highly doubtful mindset that ANY mapping app is able to be that responsive, so I'm going to presume that that scenario was based on the detour being in place for days- maybe a construction issue- and wires just happened to be down was an excuse shared after the fact. In other words, I don't think ANY mapping app could be THAT responsive.

Else, if AM is so responsive it can catch wires being down as soon as minutes or hours after they have been knocked down, then surely it can notice new roads that have been in place for years or that popular stores are or are not where they may have used to be (or are to be). AM gets bigger things like that wrong too often for me to believe it could be as responsive as this scenario implies.

I won't call the OP a liar (I'll just assume a stars-aligned scenario that day for him). I'll even HOPE that somehow AM has some cutting-edge responsiveness technology now in place. It would be great to never get caught in any short-term detour events like that again.
 
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I suck at Photoshop :p

EDIT: @AbSoluTc I've done my best attempt to re-inflate the tires... :oops: :D
Oh, Joe, I just found the photo you tried to isolate the car from… you poor, poor thing; that is what we in the image manipulation business call "****".

Here, have this on the house:

car.jpg


And if you wanted those original shadows:

car shadow.jpg
 
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We don’t need another Google Maps! Focus on better products please!

I mean seriously, what are they going to do next, create apple cpus and sell these products through their own apple
stores?

Joking aside, i do agree that this is pointless and that they should just cut their losses and go back to google.
 
We don’t need another Google Maps! Focus on better products please!

That’s what Apple is doing, improving their Maps product, an App millions use everyday.

Or do you want it both ways; complain that it’s not as good as google maps and then complain that Apple is not improving it?
 
Not Sure how you can say that Apple Maps is “terrible”, which could be variable based on someone’s experience in location. I use Apple Maps every single day and it’s never failed me. It’s greatly improved from where it was once, and it gives me all the necessary information I need to get to my destination the quickest and best route. I don’t even use Google maps anymore, even though Google maps is very good.
Have to Disagree. Outside America Google Maps is the first & only choice for me
 
Apple maps is terrible. Only use when you want to not find where you need to go.

Have had worse luck with Google maps. Took me to the wrong tractor supply store, actually a house. They currently have my home address screwed up and goes to another address about 10 miles away. I use my Garmin for GPS and has always been reliable. I have tried Apple Maps and have had the same reliability, but still revert to my Garmin for some reason.
 
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