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I know I'm asking too much, but I want a Mac mini in an enclosure like the Mac Pro that would make it simple to upgrade storage and memory. The processor could still be a mobile variant. It doesn't have to aspire to be a mini Mac Pro, but it would be nice if one consumer grade device was amenable to some tinkering.
 
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It is nice to see Macs in the news again, and not just bad news.

I mostly enjoy Mac and ATV rumors here, and it seemed like lately all the news has been about iOS, iPhone/iPad, Samsung, and Tim Cook getting involved in politics.

It looks like the Mac is back!

If the change was a bad decision, or not want the customers want Apple might backpedal. It looks like they have with the Display business.


Again, that's fake news. Apple never said they were getting out of display business and that unconfirmed rumor never made sense.
 
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Again, that's fake news. Apple never said they were getting out of display business and that unconfirmed rumor never made sense.

If it were fake news Apple would have indicated that the news was false -- with no further details [which they have done in the past] (to a few connected apple news sites). They eliminated the aging monitor, stood up with LG and said this is the monitor.... they would not have done that if they were staying in the game... they would have left the monitor continue aging. This is definitely a reversal.
 
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False. The fraudulent tech media pronounced Apple's exit from the display business, because they discontinued an out-of-date product that they didn't want anyone purchasing.

Their next entry in this space is simply not ready yet.

For a company with 60k employees and 4 products they sure take their time in releasing new products..."simply not ready yet" LOL
 
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Once again you are mistaking the facts when you say "Apple confirmed they were getting out of display business." Your only supporting document is a link back to your own article when you quote a tweet from Nilay Patel stating he spoke with some unnamed source, and Patel has had his own problems including warring with Apple over issues. LOL. Now he has egg all over his face. Apple never said this and it never made sense so please stop repeating what can be called "fake news," especially since Apple's recent press confab revealed that they simply have been working on the next gen of displays. Ditto that Apple was getting out of Mac Pro business, many claimed this but also have egg on their face. Notice that the Verge and Patel weren't invited-revealing.

Correct way to report on the facts is "it was rumored by one blogger, but never confirmed by Apple" that Apple was getting out of display business."

Same type of false info has been reported by many that Apple is getting out of router business. Another LOL. They are going all in on wireless in your home and elsewhere.

It's not binary at all. The least likely explanation is that he was simply lying, but that is a possibility. On the other hand, it is very likely that he could have, and most probably did, just spoke to someone who wasn't really in the know at Apple, or was just guessing or maybe had his own agenda and was using Patel, or Patel misinterpreted what was said, etc. It's very unlikely that Apple proper would have decided to put out major change by waiting for recently Apple hostile blogger to call and use that as only channel.

It's similar to Marc Gurman's reporting, some of it is spot on, some wrong as he relies on his source having right access, correctly understanding plans, etc. Happens all the time, and it's clear now that Apple has been working and struggling through next gen MacPro and display. That's why they put out for sale the LG monitor that didn't even come close to their standard for design, etc., as they continue to work on things like 8K display, modularity, etc.


That's why it should not be repeated as a fact that Apple decided to get out of the display business. That would have only be appropriate if Patel had identified a source at Apple that officially confirmed it, otherwise, it should again be, something along the line "One blogger said an unidentified source, etc., was getting . . . but it was never confirmed by Apple or other sources. It now appears that this source was wrong. . . "

Again, that's fake news. Apple never said they were getting out of display business and that unconfirmed rumor never made sense.

This is a weird thing to argue about. Besides, we are on MacRumors.com, not MacFacts.com

You seem very defensive about this for some reason........

Also, I never even claimed that Apple said, or did not say, that they were out of the display business. Check out my post again.
 
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I know I'm asking too much, but I want a Mac mini in an enclosure like the Mac Pro that would make it simple to upgrade storage and memory. The processor could still be a mobile variant. It doesn't have to aspire to be a mini Mac Pro, but it would be nice if one consumer grade device was amenable to some tinkering.

What? you want the Mac Mini internals (small rectangular board) in "an enclosure like the Mac Pro", a cylindrical tube prone to overheating? No!, what you really want is a chassis like the 2013 "cheese-grater" Mac Pro.
 
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What? you want the Mac Mini internals (small rectangular board) in "an enclosure like the Mac Pro", a cylindrical tube prone to overheating? No!, what you really want is a chassis like the 2013 "cheese-grater" Mac Pro.

A "Mac" (non pro) machine that simply used the Intel 7700K processor instead of the higher priced Xeon processors would be a nice middle machine. Xeon processors with ECC memory etc. move the computers higher in the price range than many "normal" people need.
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I don't even have a 4K tv!! Hmm been thinking about one though.

Higher resolution in monitors is much more useful than in TVs. The biggest improvement in the newer TVs is actually HDR / colour .... which if viewed side by side the non-HDR one looks blurry in comparison... due to the loss of a lot of detail.
 
This is a weird thing to argue about. Besides, we are on MacRumors.com, not MacFacts.com

You seem very defensive about this for some reason........

Also, I never even claimed that Apple said, or did not say, that they were out of the display business. Check out my post again.

Actually you did. You said they have "backpedalled" regarding the display business. And of course this site deals with rumors, but the site shouldn't label a rumor as fact, that's the point. With the record low level of credibility of the press, this is a very minor issue, but folks should care about accuracy at all levels.
 
I would welcome something modular and stackable like the HP Elite Slice. Pick your size and upgrade as you need.
 
What we need is a $500 Mac Mini that comes with an SSD.

Well it would have to be a 3.5" form factor SATA drive to hit that price point (the blade SSDs retail for around $500) so that would support rumors of a larger Mac Mini as it would need to be to house it. :)
 
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Actually you did. You said they have "backpedalled" regarding the display business. And of course this site deals with rumors, but the site shouldn't label a rumor as fact, that's the point. With the record low level of credibility of the press, this is a very minor issue, but folks should care about accuracy at all levels.
Here is my quote, which was about soldered RAM:
If the change was a bad decision, or not want the customers want Apple might backpedal. It looks like they have with the Display business.

I didn't say that it was a FACT that Apple was backpedalling. I said it looks like they were, and this was based off of the rumors. Also, see this post, which if it is to be believed, leaves your argument moot:

This is almost certainly what happened. Apple is pivoting here. Nilay just confirmed to me that it was an Apple executive that confirmed their previous intentions to exit the standalone display business. That's obviously not the case anymore. The pro community has been very vocal about their concerns, and I'm sure the shielding issues with the LG UltraFine 5K display don't help either. Apple can do better here.

(cc @truthertech)

Anyways, this was a silly thing to argue about, and I am sorry I let myself get involved in this pointless discussion.
 
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But making a "high-end" Mac Mini will surely have the same effect again. When it comes to Macs Apple needs an entry level version (Mini) and a standard off-the-shelf consumer version (iMac). There needs to be distinction between product lines, not overlapping in terms of performance where people don't know which is the best bang for buck.
Isn't the distinction that one Mac comes with a monitor and one doesn't.
 
What we need is a $500 Mac Mini that comes with an SSD.
250GB SSD costs under $100 (vs. $50 for 1 TB HDD), no doubt less for Apple. Having said that, Apple uses much faster SSD than off the shelf OEM. But in the case of Mac mini, I would frankly prefer that they use lower speed variant for the sake of eliminating HDD across the board.
 
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Isn't the distinction that one Mac comes with a monitor and one doesn't.

You're right of course, but if that was the case Apple would still be in the server business "it's a powerful machine, use it as you want"
 
I would love to see this line up of displays.
27" @ 5K
32" @ 8K
To make this perfect, these displays would have matte screens, but I am not holding my breath on that one.

I would love that too, but in all fairness, my little consumer heart would like to see an 8k panel on both models at their respective sizes. 32" @ 8k can pixel double for a 3840 x 2160 workspace and 27" @ 8k can triple for the same 2560 x 1440 workspace as current pixel doubled 5k panels. Would enable 8k playback on either model as well.
 
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The high end Mac Mini should go in the current Mac Pro case or a shorter version of it. They shouldn't throw that design out completely because it's awesome.
The design will be out like the old G4 Cube and probably maintain a following among Mac enthusiasts still, like the Cube... Though it won't be as rare as the Cube due to being on the market for 3x as long.
 
You're right of course, but if that was the case Apple would still be in the server business "it's a powerful machine, use it as you want"

The server business they got out of was a business they really never had a foot in the door of..... The server <> Mac Pro -- different purposes. You can use a Mac Pro as a server -- but then you are buying graphics cards you would never use. Most organizations of any size have Unix/Linux or even (cough cough) Windows servers....
 
The design will be out like the old G4 Cube and probably maintain a following among Mac enthusiasts still, like the Cube... Though it won't be as rare as the Cube due to being on the market for 3x as long.

I think if they did one that was the same, but maybe 1/3 the height, that would look great and let them keep using their investment in the manufacturing process.
 
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