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So the only example you have in the PAST DECADE is of something that's possibly going to happen in the future?
No. I said to go look at the buyers guide for several more examples. Here’s the link if you don’t know how to: https://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#Mac
You also have what Jefe’s MacAir replied to your comment with for another example.
Also, the article I posted to you is not something that will “possibly” happen. Apple confirmed it will happen. Next month.
 
Just chatting, no anger here. Just wondering about it myself as I've been used to Apple only doing annual updates on their products. Still waiting on an example (again, just to see what I've missed, not to put anyone down). As far as I've seen, their entire lineup (Macs and otherwise) have only been updated (even spec wise) only once a year.

In January or February of 17' there was an update to the new Pros that had just been released in Sept/Oct of 16'. It caused a lot of head scratching and upset a few early TB adopters.
 
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In January or February of 17' there was an update to the new Pros that had just been released in Sept/Oct of 16'. It caused a lot of head scratching and upset a few early TB adopters.

The latest MBP design came out late 2016 and weren't refreshed till mid 2017. The guide itself shows that no refresh came in under 200 days, while the average is closer to a year. Still not seeing where people should be upset (I myself bought the 2016 MBP when it came out and fully expected a refresh to come out in 2017). The guide also shows a single release per product once a year except for the MBP having an early and late release in 2013. Other then that, it's an annual release.
 
The latest MBP design came out late 2016 and weren't refreshed till mid 2017. The guide itself shows that no refresh came in under 200 days, while the average is closer to a year. Still not seeing where people should be upset (I myself bought the 2016 MBP when it came out and fully expected a refresh to come out in 2017). The guide also shows a single release per product once a year except for the MBP having an early and late release in 2013. Other then that, it's an annual release.
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The latest MBP design came out late 2016 and weren't refreshed till mid 2017. The guide itself shows that no refresh came in under 200 days, while the average is closer to a year. Still not seeing where people should be upset (I myself bought the 2016 MBP when it came out and fully expected a refresh to come out in 2017). The guide also shows a single release per product once a year except for the MBP having an early and late release in 2013. Other then that, it's an annual release.

My memory was incorrect. As the previous post ^ shows. It was June. And I believe it was early June. Felt like it was too early. But one would expect yearly updates.
 
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So the only example you have in the PAST DECADE is of something that's going to happen in the future in which no details other then an additional video graphics option is being made available?

I am not giving you the answer you want from him, but I can give you a tip, you might know this, there's an App called Mactracker, it's free, shows you all the Macs and other Apple stuff released since...forever.
And then there's everymac.com of course.
 
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The latest MBP design came out late 2016 and weren't refreshed till mid 2017. The guide itself shows that no refresh came in under 200 days, while the average is closer to a year. Still not seeing where people should be upset (I myself bought the 2016 MBP when it came out and fully expected a refresh to come out in 2017). The guide also shows a single release per product once a year except for the MBP having an early and late release in 2013. Other then that, it's an annual release.


As per Mactracker, the last non annual MBP release was 4 years ago.
 
As per Mactracker, the last non annual MBP release was 4 years ago.
As per me, Apple hasn’t been following an annual update schedule as of lately. I guess some websites/people have differing opinions on what exactly defines a “release” and an “update.” Point is, Apple is making more money by updating their MBPs more often than annually.
 
As per me, Apple hasn’t been following an annual update schedule as of lately. I guess some websites/people have differing opinions on what exactly defines a “release” and an “update.” Point is, Apple is making more money by updating their MBPs more often than annually.


Tell that to Apple please.
I agree fully.
 
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The article says it is roughly 8.5% faster than the current i5 version. That is not a significant difference to warrant the release of another processor option.

But it IS a reason to offer a 2nd configuration for $300 more than the i5!
 
I wrote about why I’m returning my MBA here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/9voa55/after_3_days_im_returning_my_2018_macbook_air/

An i7 Air would have been a game changer. What nobody seems to have discussed either, the machine is being throttled on battery power which I had to find out the hard way.
Just read your reddit post. Interesting that you mentioned the possibility of the increased screen resolution being the cause of the problem. I have a 12” MacBook 2017 maxed out and it’s slower than my sisters 2013 rock bottom MBA. Only reason I can think of is that the Retina display is too much for lower specs such as the ones found on 12” MB and MBA to handle. The 12” MacBook works, but if I could go back I would have definitely bought one of the older MBAs maxed out instead. They were a cheaper option, and as I found out the hard way, the faster option. Win-win. Or I guess lose-lose for me. The screen of the old Air looks hideous when compared to a retina but I’d choose speed over display quality any day. Especially when it’s the cheaper option. Also, the battery power throttling you mentioned sounds way frustrating if Apple really designed it that way. Pretty stupid. I never remember my sisters old MBA having those issues. What happened to the days when Macs were designed for the sake of computing. It seems now everything is designed for the sake of competing to see who has the best battery life and thinnest chassis. Seems like Apple has got a severe case of anorexia... Geez, Apple better hurry and take their 2013 MBA off their store cuz people are gonna smarten up soon and keep buying it instead of the new Air that they’ve all been dying for. I think if I had to buy a new laptop today there’s a good chance that could be the one I’d get.
 
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Just read your reddit post. Interesting that you mentioned the possibility of the increased screen resolution being the cause of the problem. I have a 12” MacBook 2017 maxed out and it’s slower than my sisters 2013 rock bottom MBA. Only reason I can think of is that the Retina display is too much for lower specs such as the ones found on 12” MB and MBA to handle. The 12” MacBook works, but if I could go back I would have definitely bought one of the older MBAs maxed out instead. They were a cheaper option, and as I found out the hard way, the faster option. Win-win. Or I guess lose-lose for me. The screen of the old Air looks hideous when compared to a retina but I’d choose speed over display quality any day. Especially when it’s the cheaper option. Also, the battery power throttling you mentioned sounds way frustrating if Apple really designed it that way. Pretty stupid. I never remember my sisters old MBA having those issues. What happened to the days when Macs were designed for the sake of computing. It seems now everything is designed for the sake of competing to see who has the best battery life and thinnest chassis. Seems like Apple has got a severe case of anorexia... Geez, Apple better hurry and take their 2013 MBA off their store cuz people are gonna smarten up soon and keep buying it instead of the new Air that they’ve all been dying for. I think if I had to buy a new laptop today there’s a good chance that could be the one I’d get.

Yep, my old Air never had any noticeable performance hit on battery power.
 

Ugh ... thanks for confirming? You do realize the 120 days is the CURRENT wait. Every year is listed ONCE except for 2013. So FIVE years ago they had two releases in a year, but just one per year since. So what was your argument again?

I'll even do the research for you.
Last time they released two refreshes in a year for each model:
MacBook: 2009
MacBook Air: 2008 (original)
MacBook Pro: 2013

Hardly a conspiracy to obsolete new releases shortly after being sold.
 
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Ugh ... thanks for confirming? You do realize the 120 days is the CURRENT wait. Every year is listed ONCE except for 2013. So FIVE years ago they had two releases in a year, but just one per year since. So what was your argument again?

I'll even do the research for you.
Last time they released two refreshes in a year for each model:
MacBook: 2009
MacBook Air: 2008 (original)
MacBook Pro: 2013

Hardly a conspiracy to obsolete new releases shortly after being sold.
The average is 329 days. That means that they have been releasing them more often than once a year, which is the idea that you were so adamantly defending earlier. Also the fact that they have sporadically released them at different times of the year, not at a consistent time each year like the the iPhone or Apple Watch. Also note that it was less than eight months between the time of the 2016 and 2017 model.
 
The average is 329 days. That means that they have been releasing them more often than once a year, which is the idea that you were so adamantly defending earlier. Also the fact that they have sporadically released them at different times of the year, not at a consistent time each year like the the iPhone or Apple Watch. Also note that it was less than eight months between the time of the 2016 and 2017 model.

Thanks for confirming (again) that they're averaging close to an annual release rather then averaging two or more releases per year. That 329 is much closer to 365 then it is to 180 (with your insinuation that they have multiple releases a year).
 
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Thanks for confirming (again) that they're averaging close to an annual release rather then averaging two or more releases per year. That 329 is much closer to 365 then it is to 180 (with your insinuation that they have multiple releases a year).
So you now realize that you were wrong about only ONE release every year? Now you’re gonna admit it’s “close to” one release every year? I never insinuated 180 day cycles. The average is *below* one year, which means two releases per a year on average. Which means that what I said was true. Which supports the idea that Apple has been milkin it with their MBP lineup. And you’re welcome. Glad I could help clear things up for you.
 
So you now realize that you were wrong about only ONE release every year? Now you’re gonna admit it’s “close to” one release every year? I never insinuated 180 day cycles. The average is *below* one year, which means two releases per a year on average. Which means that what I said was true. Which supports the idea that Apple has been milkin it with their MBP lineup. And you’re welcome. Glad I could help clear things up for you.

Your rounding is a bit off. 0 ... 1 ... 2. Which number is closest to the amount of releases they make. Here’s a hint. It’s ONE!
 
I don’t think Geekbench is an accurate test. It’s one small burst of power required to run the test. Using the machine for hours on battery, it’s noticeably different.
What are you trying to do for hours that is a heavy power draw on a MacBook Air?
 
Here is the kicker if Tim Cook is somehow drunk or actually contemplate to approve a variation of less stellar i7 Intel amber lake architecture for the 2019 MacBook Air.

The increase in performance will be around 6.4 to 8.5 percent and could cost you to pay extra 25% that won't likely benefit much for any of the application which at most can load your webpage 1% faster.

In contrast to the industry standard type of ultrabook that you can purchase from the brand such as Microsoft, Dell, HP that offer a real next generation CPU performance that's over 50% faster than the entry level of 2018 or 2019 MacBook Air.

The Intel Kaby-Lake R CPU is supposed to be inside 2018 MacBook Air that offer superior performance without the trade off of a great battery like every other 2018 ultrabook that came out by the end of 2017.

Isn't it a huge disappointment the way Apple treated the Air-Series model that used to set a new industry standard without compromising the speed.
 
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