Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
How about bumping the quality of the streams? And does anyone else get tracks on playlists playing at wildly different volume levels? So annoying.

Settings > Music > scroll down to Playback > activate Sound Check

This should sort your issue. Noticed it as an unchecked option in HomePod the other day, gave it a Google and turns out it's a normaliser to sort that exact issue. (FYI, the path I referenced is to find the option for your iPhone/iPad not HomePod)
 
  • Like
Reactions: Steve121178
I have used both, but jumped ship when Apple came with the student discount and I have to say that in the beginning I hated Apple Music. Now? It's gotten better and better. The 'For You' has finally (after a couple months) found what I like and stopped suggesting 100% Rap/Hip-Hop music, but is know spot on. Playlists are finally increasing drastically and updating frequently. Also the way Spotify handles local music is dreadful imo. But the two are here to stay and the fact that both are here is good for the consumer.

I have both at the moment. I am doing that 3 month Spotify for 0.99 euros. After 1.5 week I can say this

Apple Music:
- [KILLER FEATURE] iCloud Music Library + local music: since i listen mainly soundtracks and trailer music I have a lot of unreleased material. Thanks to this killer feature I have all my music everywhere. This is the reason I still use Apple Music
-No webplayer: when I want to listen to music at work or somewhere else I need the laggy ugly horrible abomination called iTunes
- Desktop player: laggy ugly horrible abomination called iTunes deserves another mention
- Great/best integration with iOS
- iOS app looks great and functions great.
- biggest catalog
- better price/value with the music locker functionality
- music discovery is way worse. When I create a soundtrack radio station I get hiphop and other totally unrelated songs from time to time. Even when I dislike them, they come back again and again

Spotify:
- Webplayer is nice added bonus
- Quick responsive good looking desktop player
- Platform independent: stream to Playstation while gaming, chromecast, speakers etc
- Spotify Connect: quickly switch between devices and continue where you left off. Can't believe Apple didn't copy this great feature yet. Is is like handoff-mode for music.
- [KILLER FEATURE] Music discovery: the default generated playlists are really awesome: seems that Spotify knows everything about my musical tastes within a week, while Apple had months of data and years of Genius data of my local library, yet the recommendations in For You are either very boring or completely wrong.

Don't know which I am going to keep in the long run. Right now it seems when I want to play specific stuff I am looking for in my own library i use Apple Music. But when I want to be surprised and impressed by cool new music I fire up Spotify. Hard choice. Apple is sooooo close to the perfect music service if only their AI improves by 50-fold.
 
This will be great for people who can’t install things on their work computer but want to listen to music while working.
 
  • Like
Reactions: citysnaps
Which should have started about 10 years ago.?.
How do you know it didn’t. Apple plans about ten years into the future, Ive heard. iTunes has been a crucial cornerstone to the ecosystem, and rearchitecting it could take a decade.
 
Get rid of iTunes. Or at least for the love of God please let us alter metadata of music we’ve uploaded to iCloud Music Library in the music app on our iOS devices. I’d also love to be able to add music directly from an iOS device so I would never need to use iTunes again. This can’t be that hard Apple.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Mr Todhunter
If they revamp/remove iTunes, I hope we can still play CDs. I have a bunch of albums not on iTunes. I also wish iTunes would support FLAC. I know Quicktime supports FLAC, but iTunes doesn't.
 
Settings > Music > scroll down to Playback > activate Sound Check

This should sort your issue. Noticed it as an unchecked option in HomePod the other day, gave it a Google and turns out it's a normaliser to sort that exact issue. (FYI, the path I referenced is to find the option for your iPhone/iPad not HomePod)

Thank you, I will give that a try.
 
If they revamp/remove iTunes, I hope we can still play CDs. I have a bunch of albums not on iTunes. I also wish iTunes would support FLAC. I know Quicktime supports FLAC, but iTunes doesn't.
Realistically, I think, iTunes will almost certainly never support FLAC. The audio codec is probably less of an issue in the matter than including support for yet another container format that Apple has absolutely no control over and making it play well with all of iTunes' metadata management functionality. That would just add unneeded complexity that they're trying to reduce, and result in little to no benefit when you consider that files encoded in FLAC can easily be converted into the fully-supported ALAC without any loss of fidelity.

Support for playing and importing CDs I also see going away sooner rather than later, considering none of the Macs in Apple's current lineup have optical disc drives built into them. There are lots of great third-party apps, including XLD – my personal favorite – for anyone who who still has a need for that functionality. I'm sure iTunes will continue to allow you to import files from external sources.

The likelihood for either of these features appearing in an all-new iTunes successor seems so small as to not even being worth to consider.
 
The first step in eliminating iTunes!
Hopefully not. The current version of iTunes has some interface problems, but it is still the most powerful application for managing large music and movie libraries. None of the other music/movie services have anything comparable. It's one of those things many like to complain about, but I bet it would be bitterly missed if it were gone. My hope is that they bring back the focus that iTunes once had in older versions.
 
My hope is that they bring back the focus that iTunes once had in older versions.
Don't forget, they've already removed (iOS) apps, the iOS App Store, and iTunes U from iTunes. So they're well on their way. Which, I agree, is a good thing.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rigby
Realistically, I think, iTunes will almost certainly never support FLAC. The audio codec is probably less of an issue in the matter than including support for yet another container format that Apple has absolutely no control over and making it play well with all of iTunes' metadata management functionality. That would just add unneeded complexity that they're trying to reduce, and result in little to no benefit when you consider that files encoded in FLAC can easily be converted into the fully-supported ALAC without any loss of fidelity.

Very true

Support for playing and importing CDs I also see going away sooner rather than later, considering none of the Macs in Apple's current lineup have optical disc drives built into them. There are lots of great third-party apps, including XLD – my personal favorite – for anyone who who still has a need for that functionality. I'm sure iTunes will continue to allow you to import files from external sources.

The likelihood for either of these features appearing in an all-new iTunes successor seems so small as to not even being worth to consider.

Let's just hope Apple allows importing from other sources, and not just a "Buy it from us don't use it at all" approach. I just don't want to have to use multiple apps, or worse, devices, to listen to all my music. I hope I'm not becoming too much of a "Get off my yard!" old guy.
 
  • Like
Reactions: KazKam and tkermit
Along with Siri, Apple Music has a dreadful A.I. problem. It's the only reason I still keep Spotify and airplay to my HomePod.

Does anyone else?:
  • Have the same 5-10 songs play for whatever genre or artist radio station you start?
  • Try to say, "play more like this" or "play artist radio" on Apple Watch and get a "sorry I cannot create genius playlists on Apple Watch." Nope, not trying to make a genius playlist, just a station.
  • Say "play some music" and think it should also play songs that maybe I've never heard or are not in my library.
  • Actually play music related to what you created a station off of and not the same few songs that seem to have some kind of play-count contract with the amount of times they come up on Apple Music.
  • Think that with watch and phone and HomePod and TV, there should be some sort of play time continuity like Spotify does? If I'm playing Spotify on my phone, get home and tell google home to play music (Spotify is default) it will pick up where I left off in the car. Same if I were to pick up my iPad or launch the Mac app.
I am someone who rarely knows what artist I want to listen to so being able to select a mood or genre or have generated playlists that are genuinely like music that I have liked or listened to is huge. Aside from those short comings are the, what I'm assuming are bugs, where for instance: Radiohead. I have a few scattered songs. No full albums. I think I liked them with a medium bubble in the initial AM setup. No matter what kind of radio station I play. I am guaranteed to get a Radiohead song in the first 8 songs played. The other day, I played a station based off of "Lights" by Ellie Goulding. I know, cheesy but I like it for jogging... about 4 or 5 up comes "High and Dry". I feel like I spend half of my run tapping my AirPods for next track...

Rant over.
 
I'd like to separate my personal collection to my Apple music collection. Excuse my lack of knowledge of Apple Music but is there an easy way to do this? Can you just click a button and see all your cloud music and then click a button to see all the music you have ripped and transferred to your phone?
 
I'd like to separate my personal collection to my Apple music collection. Excuse my lack of knowledge of Apple Music but is there an easy way to do this? Can you just click a button and see all your cloud music and then click a button to see all the music you have ripped and transferred to your phone?

Yes, on iOS: Settings>Music. Both Apple Music and iCloud music library have toggles. On Mac in iTunes: Preferences>General.
 
  • Like
Reactions: TwoBytes
I'd be very surprised if an Apple Music app doesn't come to the Mac this year. It's now by far the most dominant form of listening to music for Apple customers.

iTunes is already being phased out with further steps expected:

  • App Store is already gone from iTunes.
  • TV shows and Movies in AppleTV app for Mac. Apple needs to get customers on its TV app, ready for its own TV productions, coming soon.
  • AudioBooks are already in iOS' iBooks. New Books app has been sighted in betas. There are also rumors of the Podcasts app being redesigned. If iOS/Mac universal apps rumour is true, new Podcasts and Books apps could be some of the first to work cross platform since they're being entirely rebuilt.
  • Sync via iTunes is now unnecessary since Apple retired all non-iCloud iPods. iPod Touch and all iPhones sync via iCloud.
  • The iTunes Store is just a web container inside of iTunes. A separate iTunes Store app is very easy to build as it itself would just be a web container.

My prediction for WWDC with regards to Mac vis-a-vis iTunes: macOS Mojave will ship with AppleMusic, AppleTV app, Podcasts app, new Books app with AudioBooks, and a Devices Sync page in macOS Settings for old non-iCloud devices and to manually reinstall iOS on unresponsive devices via tether. iTunes Store either remains inside of Apple Music for Mac or becomes its own app.

Whether Apple discontinues iTunes itself is up for debate. They could keep iTunes around alongside AppleMusic but gradually let it fade as more and more customers move to music streaming. What's clear is that all those other features can be moved out of the app and likely will in macOS Mojave.
 
Last edited:
It's [AM] now by far the most dominant form of listening to music for Apple customers.

Where'd you get that from? Last I heard AM has only 50M subscribers, and there's now over 1 Billion unique Apple IDs. If even half of those are listening to music regularly that's still only 10% of Apple users listening to music via AM. I'd says that's a helluva long way from dominant, lol.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Mr Todhunter
Very cool. Anyone know if you can do this with Podcasts? I'd love to be able to embed a podcast episode directly to Apple Podcasts.
 
Where'd you get that from? Last I heard AM has only 50M subscribers, and there's now over 1 Billion unique Apple IDs. If even half of those are listening to music regularly that's still only 10% of Apple users listening to music via AM. I'd says that's a helluva long way from dominant, lol.

I’m talking about music sales. iTunes sales have been dropping for years and they’ve plummeted since Apple Music was launched.

Apple Music allows customers to listen to their purchased music which handles iTunes purchases.

And finally, the vast majority of Apple users are on iOS devices which means they use Apple Music to listen to their music, not iTunes, making Apple Music the dominant form of listening to music.
 
iTunes is already being phased out with further steps expected:

  • App Store is already gone from iTunes.
  • TV shows and Movies in AppleTV app for Mac. Apple needs to get customers on its TV app, ready for its own TV productions, coming soon.
That would be a weak replacement, since the TV app cannot handle local content and doesn't have any of iTunes' library management functionality. Also, how would Homesharing over the local network work in this scenario?
  • AudioBooks are already in iOS' iBooks. New Books app has been sighted in betas. There are also rumors of the Podcasts app being redesigned. If iOS/Mac universal apps rumour is true, new Podcasts and Books apps could be some of the first to work cross platform since they're being entirely rebuilt.
  • Sync via iTunes is now unnecessary since Apple retired all non-iCloud iPods. iPod Touch and all iPhones sync via iCloud.
Not quite. For example, there is currently no way to get audiobooks that weren't purchased from Apple onto an iOS device without iTunes since such audiobooks cannot be synced over the cloud. There are also numerous apps that use iTunes filesharing.
  • The iTunes Store is just a web container inside of iTunes. A separate iTunes Store app is very easy to build as it itself would just be a web container.
Perhaps. But things like downloading content would be cumbersome.
 
It's broken right after WWDC ended and not one mention of it. You can search but when you click on a album it is just blank. Nothing.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.