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Yet Apple Music doesn't support it's own product. We should be able to save music in our iPods like the Shuffle. Tired of bringing my extra large iphone to the gym.
 
Never going to happen. Apple Music will only work with online devices that can connect and check for a valid active subscription - and I'm guessing this would have been a requirement from the record labels as part of the licencing - or what is to stop somebody signing up for the trial, dumping 160Gb of Apple Music tracks on to their iPod Classic and then cancelling the subscription and just keeping the music forever...

It sucks as I'd love to be able to sync stuff to my classic too, but I can see why it's not allowed.

What stops me from buying an older 128gb iPhone, loading it with offline music and then dumping the subscription...?
From my understanding, the offline playback mode puts a timer on the tracks that expires after you're offline for a designated period of time (Spotify is 30 days). If you don't connect to the apple server before the timer is up the music becomes unplayable (or in the case of an iPod you would have to sync it with an Internet enable computer).
 
I'm just annoyed by the fact that the app doesn't work with iTunes Match. Therefore, my wife, who has an Android phone, can't take advantage of the subscription we're already paying for.
 
As The Verge points out, with the ability to save downloaded content, Android users can potentially have access to more music than iOS users who are limited to a maximum of 128GB of storage on iPhones and iPads.
Um...what? AppleMusic is a streaming service. You have the same access to music regardless of your storage capacity.

Unless by "potentially" they mean in the absence of a cell signal or WiFi. And if that's what they mean, raise you hand if you use AppleMusic to fill up your device's storage with purchased & downloaded songs. Anyone? Bueller?
 
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Still better than no support at all. Poor iPhone users forced to buy higher capacity to store music and pay premiums for storage upgrade where we the Android users can enjoy SD card and not pay premiums to Apple.

Or you can get with 2016 and stream your music instead of downloading it all.

I'd also rather have the better phone than a crappy mini-PC with malware masquerading as a phone.
 
Definately a drawback. I prefer to not have to use and logon to Google services to use my phone. No thanks


You don't have to logon to Google services to use your phone.
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Lag, malware, crappy apps, bad hardware no matter what OEM you chose. And SD cards are painfully slow.


LOL... I still remember malware found on App Store, iPhone 6 lags like crap according to forum users anf I still remember photos for those poor Hollywood stars... Wait are you describing iPhones?

Welcome to Android then...
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Or you can get with 2016 and stream your music instead of downloading it all.

I'd also rather have the better phone than a crappy mini-PC with malware masquerading as a phone.

Oh... There were apps with malware found on App Store... So many uninformed iOS users think iOS is malware proof...

The fact is that 250 OnePlus X is just as good as iPhone... And when is last time you touched Android? Becuase my Marshmallow phone never lags and I never had malware... Unlike iPad Air or iPhone 6 lags like crap
 
LOL... I still remember malware found on App Store, iPhone 6 lags like crap according to forum users anf I still remember photos for those poor Hollywood stars... Wait are you describing iPhones?

Well, according to forum users who despite being proven wrong time over time, don't accept the truth.

There was no real threat found in the AppStore, at least for the last year.

Meanwhile, real malware has been found on the PlayStore already this year, and lag is still an issue with Android, even on the latest and most expensive phones.
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Oh... There were apps with malware found on App Store... So many uninformed iOS users think iOS is malware proof...

https://blog.lookout.com/blog/2016/01/06/brain-test-re-emerges/

More malware would be found if Google weren't paying for the silence of independent security researchers.

Also, there are lots of fake Apps on the Play Store, that do nothing they promise, yet have glowing 5 star reviews!
 
Excellent. Will enable this on my Z5 now.

Hmm.... Moving from internal storage to SD results in -

applemusic-droid.jpg


Mean-Girls-Meme-She-Doesnt-Even-Go-Here-12.jpg
 
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Well, according to forum users who despite being proven wrong time over time, don't accept the truth.

There was no real threat found in the AppStore, at least for the last year.

Meanwhile, real malware has been found on the PlayStore already this year, and lag is still an issue with Android, even on the latest and most expensive phones.
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https://blog.lookout.com/blog/2016/01/06/brain-test-re-emerges/

More malware would be found if Google weren't paying for the silence of independent security researchers.

Also, there are lots of fake Apps on the Play Store, that do nothing they promise, yet have glowing 5 star reviews!

So, even if there is one malware found in App Store, it is all take to prove iOS is not as scure as you thought to be.

And for all crap apps, there are lots in App Store as well. All you need to do is take look at them.

It really makes me laugh when you guys play malware card againest Android, becuase iOS's record is not all that perfect. Yet, you guys just pretending iOS is inconceivable.

By the way, all you need to do is go grab an Nexus 6P or even OnePlus X, Android isn't laggy feast anymore. It runs just as well as iOS and you get more than iOS could ever offer.
 
And for all crap apps, there are lots in App Store as well. All you need to do is take look at them.

I'm not saying about "crap" Apps (What's a "crap App"?).

I'm talking about Apps that say that they do one thing in the description, and they don't really do what they claim.

It really makes me laugh when you guys play malware card againest Android, becuase iOS's record is not all that perfect. Yet, you guys just pretending iOS is inconceivable.

It's impossible to be perfect, but by far, iOS's model is the one with the best results.

do is go grab an Nexus 6P or even OnePlus X, Android isn't laggy feast anymore

Sorry, it's still laggy. After you use it for a while, it starts to lag all over again!

Even Android enthusiasts agree with this.
 
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Sorry, it's still laggy. After you use it for a while, it starts to lag all over again!

Even Android enthusiasts agree with this.
I have an Xperia Z3 Compact, which is hardly the fastest phone on the market and I do not recall it lagging, um, ever? Possibly I need to start playing games on it. Or install Apple Music.

Out of curiosity, what was the last time you used Android longer than 15 minutes? (My guess is "never".)
 
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Lag, malware, crappy apps, bad hardware no matter what OEM you chose. And SD cards are painfully slow.

When iOS fans always exaggerate the lag and malware found on Android devices, it is hard to take their opinions seriously.

Try doing a search on these forums for "iPhone lag". Funny 2GB ram is just a pointless "spec war" when Android devices had them but is the bees knees once the iPhone got it.

Crappy apps? Is that why so many iOS users are complaining Safari can't do the split screen feature?

SD cards are slow? That is funny because they are fast enough to be used in 4k Cameras and have faster access speeds vs streaming online.
 
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I have an Xperia Z3 Compact, which is hardly the fastest phone on the market and I do not recall it lagging, um, ever? Possibly I need to start playing games on it. Or install Apple Music.

Out of curiosity, what was the last time you used Android longer than 15 minutes? (My guess is "never".)

You decide everything for yourself.

Be happy that way, then.
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When iOS fans always exaggerate the lag and malware found on Android devices, it is hard to take their opinions seriously.

It's 2016, it still lags when going back/forward on an App, it still lags on scrolling trough long lists… Google promised it was all solved back in Jelly Bean…

Try doing a search on these forums for "iPhone lag". Funny 2GB ram is just a pointless "spec war" when Android devices had them but is the bees knees once the iPhone got it.

Mostly done by few 2 to 3 people.

IRL, nobody complains.

About the RAM, more is better, but most people are completely happy with their 1GB phones. On the other side, nobody can honestly be happy with a 2GB Android!
 
You decide everything for yourself.
How is this related to you saying "Sorry, it's still laggy. After you use it for a while, it starts to lag all over again! Even Android enthusiasts agree with this." or my question "Out of curiosity, what was the last time you used Android longer than 15 minutes? (My guess is "never".)"

Be happy that way, then.
Now you're speaking with yourself but it's okay, until certain age fanboyism is kinda cute. :)

*end of OT posts from me*
 
I guess people use Apple Music on an Apple device (even though it is restricted to which devices). I am surprised that people are using it on an Android. But here is my biggest surprise -- people care about storing it to an SD card.

1. If you are paying for streaming then why save? Really... I purchase my music so I can listen to it whenever I want without having to stream. But if you pay for the streaming service, downloading seems redundant. Yes, you could argue that it is needed for when you hit a dead spot, but that is pretty small these days so not that big a deal (okay at least in my world, maybe you live somewhere where there are no towers).

2. On Android you have so many other options from Google, Spotify, Pandora, etc. Why would anyone care about the Apple Product?

3. Why does anyone use slow SD cards anyway? Since Android phones are cheap, buy a phone with 64 gig or more of SSD.

Okay, I know I will get flamed by the android community that seems to love to visit MR, but I am interested in knowing.
 
I guess people use Apple Music on an Apple device (even though it is restricted to which devices). I am surprised that people are using it on an Android. But here is my biggest surprise -- people care about storing it to an SD card.
SD cards provide a cheap and easy way to increase storage. Also the info is not locked to the phone. It's transferrable.

1. If you are paying for streaming then why save? Really... I purchase my music so I can listen to it whenever I want without having to stream. But if you pay for the streaming service, downloading seems redundant. Yes, you could argue that it is needed for when you hit a dead spot, but that is pretty small these days so not that big a deal (okay at least in my world, maybe you live somewhere where there are no towers).
Data caps. Not everyone has unlimited or high data amounts. In the case of my 10 year old, she has no data for streaming away from wifi (Moto G on Republic Wireless - $10 month. Great value) She downloads her music for trips in the car, on the school bus, or out in the mall, etc. I don't allow her access to public wifi.

2. On Android you have so many other options from Google, Spotify, Pandora, etc. Why would anyone care about the Apple Product?
Choice. Some people are ecosystem agnostic. AM music may have a specific feature a person likes.

3. Why does anyone use slow SD cards anyway? Since Android phones are cheap, buy a phone with 64 gig or more of SSD.
Choice again. Why buy a cheap phone when you can get the phone you want and simply add an even cheaper SD card? SD card speeds have increased. Even if they hadn't, the speed of the SD card wouldn't affect music playback.

Okay, I know I will get flamed by the android community that seems to love to visit MR, but I am interested in knowing.
You're better than this and you know it. Don't give in to the idiocy of fanboys who masochistically predict someone is going to hate something they say. It's like passive aggressive trolling.

Apple allowed this for simple feature parity with their competitors on the Android platform. It's a good thing. No sense in offering your service and not making it a more viable alternative.
 
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I'm laughing at those who said Android is laggy. Go to the iOS 9 forum and read the common threads there.

Point is iOS and iPhones experience lag too and the so called "planned obsolescence" Stop trying to make Apple saints here.

I use a Motorola Nexus 6 running stock Android Marshmallow as a backup phone to my 6s. It does have some lag but only when minimising apps. Otherwise it's fine.

But yet again, this is the Apple fanboys forum, if I go an Android forum, they'll say bad things about iOS and why it's 100x worse than Android...
 
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Never going to happen. Apple Music will only work with online devices that can connect and check for a valid active subscription - and I'm guessing this would have been a requirement from the record labels as part of the licencing - or what is to stop somebody signing up for the trial, dumping 160Gb of Apple Music tracks on to their iPod Classic and then cancelling the subscription and just keeping the music forever...

It sucks as I'd love to be able to sync stuff to my classic too, but I can see why it's not allowed.

Maybe they should consult with Microsoft. Zune had no issue with it (Zune pass songs). They'd just expire after 30 days if no re-auth by syncing the player.
 
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I wonder if Apple will now allow iTunes to save songs to SD cards connected to the camera kit which now works on the iPhone for the first time?

I currently transfer movies into my iPad this way, and just yesterday was looking for a way to transfer a photo from my iPad to my iPhone when my internet was out. Having a way to do this, even in a pinch would be fantastic.

Somehow I feel like this puts a great deal of pressure on Apple, and they wouldn't do it if they weren't planning to offer something similar to Apple customers in the future as well. Even so, it's disappointing that Android customers got it first.

Frankly, an "upgrade" like this would be something worth announcing at an event with a new iPhone, flagship or not.
 
SD cards provide a cheap and easy way to increase storage. Also the info is not locked to the phone. It's transferrable.

Data caps. Not everyone has unlimited or high data amounts. In the case of my 10 year old, she has no data for streaming away from wifi (Moto G on Republic Wireless - $10 month. Great value) She downloads her music for trips in the car, on the school bus, or out in the mall, etc. I don't allow her access to public wifi.

On these two point I would like to get a clarification.

Do we know as fact that you will be able to transfer music saved on an SD card across devices?

For your daughter, have you looked at all the binge on plans from TMob. Not sure it could possibly be cheaper than $10 month. But those plans seem interesting for the streamers out there and another reason why saving locally may be a bit redundant.
 
It's 2016, it still lags when going back/forward on an App, it still lags on scrolling trough long lists… Google promised it was all solved back in Jelly Bean…

Seriously! When is the last time you ever touched Android phone?


Sorry, it's still laggy. After you use it for a while, it starts to lag all over again!

Even Android enthusiasts agree with this.

I had my Moto X 2014 for 1 year and half for now, never lag. Even after update to Marshmallow... Something you cannot say about update iOS... Almost all iPhone are progressively slowet with each iOS update.
 
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