Apple Music is really pissing me off (playlist rant)

Discussion in 'Apple Music, Apple Pay, iCloud, Apple Services' started by Sonmi451, Jul 16, 2015.

  1. Sonmi451 Suspended

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    I have a playlist on my computer. It has a crossed out cloud icon next to it. When I click on it, it says: "iCloud Music Library playlists can only include music from your iCloud Music Library."

    I am unable to copy this playlist to my iPhone. No error or anything, it just won't select. Yes, I have some downloaded Apple Music stuff, and regular library music combined.

    This is so dumb. I don't give a **** what kind of playlist it is, just copy the damn thing to my phone.
     
  2. McDaddio macrumors 6502a

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    If this is really pissing you off, it is time to go outside, or interact with a human being in person, or play with your pet or children, or read a good book.
    If it continues, then you should get professional help.
    Good luck!
     
  3. lagwagon Suspended

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    Like above posted pointed out. No reason to get so upset over it. Relax and troubleshoot the problem.

    Just like the error message says. The playlist cannot contain anything not added to your iCloud Music Library.

    Three things it could be that I can think of. Check all the tracks in your library that you want in that playlist and make sure there is

    1: no cloud icon next to a song with a line through it. (This means the song file is ineligible for IML. You have to remove this from the playlist, no way around that except to find the song later in Apple Music and add it through that.)

    2: no cloud icon next to a song with an "X" in it. (This means it was removed from IML and needs to be re added. Right click and select "add to iCloud music library.)

    3: no cloud icon next to a song that is the cloud but the outline is dotted (this means it needs to be processed. Right click and select "add to iCloud music library.)

    If it's not any of those then I have no clue. But because of the message you got, SOMETHING in the playlist hasn't been added to your iCloud music library yet. (Not the same as just adding it to your local library.)
     
  4. manu chao macrumors 603

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    Had the same problem and troubleshooted it by disabling all Apple Music and iCloud Music Library permanently. Much better than staying pissed off.


    Just like the error message says. The playlist cannot contain anything not added to your iCloud Music Library.

    Three things it could be that I can think of. Check all the tracks in your library that you want in that playlist and make sure there is
    We already knew this, this is what the 'error' message said: not-part-off/ineligible for iCML. The real question is why it isn't eligible, a song is either in Apple's music library or a copy of the song is uploaded to Apple's servers. This error message should never be generated.

    All stuff in your local library is automatically added to your iCML. I have never heard of somebody having to add all their songs inside their iTunes library to iCML.

    See above.

    No, what is happening here is that something that should be part of your iCML isn't added because of a bug in iTunes/iCML. While there might be ways to workaround bugs, you always have to ask yourself whether it's worth the effort and whether waiting for the bugs to be fixed isn't the better solution.

    More than half of my playlists had this problem, I am not going to go through all my playlists and find out which songs need to be removed for the playlist to sync.
     
  5. whsbuss macrumors 68040

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    I'd like to see in either iTunes or the Music app a way to show what tracks are associated with playlists. When you create many, many playlists you forget what tracks have been added. I always have to open each playlist to see if I've already added a song when I create a new one.
     
  6. Sonmi451, Jul 17, 2015
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    you must be the most boring vanilla person if you never get upset. Instead of acting like a self righteous ** you could skip this thread and move on or provide some meaningful feedback like the others did.
     
  7. Sonmi451 thread starter Suspended

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    As others have stated, I have no way of telling which songs I own, and which are from Apple Music.

    Even then, some AM songs work fine, some don't.

    I'm probably just going to wait for Apple to fix the bugs as I don't have time to deal with this.

    I realize this is new tech being rolled out and I'm willing to forgive some hiccups but it's still been frustrating when things don't work.
     
  8. McDaddio macrumors 6502a

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    My feedback was very meaningful.
    If you get pissed off by something as trivial as this and then you have to personally attack me, you should consider my advice or go ride around in your Tesla Model S for a while and get some balance back in your life.
    Good luck!
     
  9. Sonmi451 thread starter Suspended

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    If being called boring and vanilla is your idea of a personal attack get off the internet now please. Especially if you're going to be all passive aggressive. Maybe I'm feeding the troll here but you should know how to act.
     
  10. lagwagon, Jul 17, 2015
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    Songs can be ineligible if they are too low quality (96kbps and below is not allowed in IML.) or if the individual track is 200mb or more in size.

    You can still see and play these tracks on your Mac regardless of if they are in IML BECAUSE you have them in your local library on the Mac.

    So

    #1 (cloud with an line through it) could be he has songs that were ineligible for IML from his library that he is trying to add to a playlist.

    #2 (cloud with an "X" in it) could be that in his frustration he unknowingly removed some songs from IML from his phone or even the Mac. The Mac will still see them in the library because it's local on the Mac. (Thus no longer in IML) Once removed you need to re add it.

    #3 (dotted cloud) could be he added some songs AFTER IML did its initial scan and/or uploading of his library when first turned on. (Thus not in IML yet and needs to be added)

    So you would rather just complain and give up than actually try to solve it? Seems lazy. It's pretty cut and dry really. You had songs NOT in IML. Find which ones, add them back (or in the case of ineligible songs, remove them from the playlist) I had two albums that had one ineligible song each that were preventing a playlist to be added. Just by excluding those two songs allowed to playlist to be added just fine with no issue.
     
  11. Sonmi451 thread starter Suspended

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    can we please quit the insults and criticisms? I get it.... there's probably a lot of posters in here frustrated with stuff and you guys are sick of hearing about it. Some of us spend more time dealing with issues than others, and some of us may have other things going on that are fueling these frustrations. For the record I have a pretty awesome ***** life and not much to complain about other than my damn IML in a tizzy.

    Anyway to go back into time... I've been using iTunes for years, and I know the in and outs of how it works, and how it interacts with my phone. I like Apple Music, but the integration has totally thrown me off. It just came out and I'm sure it will get better, but I spent too much time trying to transfer over a playlist so I could go work out and it wouldn't work. I briefly looked up some solutions but couldn't get it to work. As others have said, I need to go 1 by 1 to see what songs don't work. I don't have time for that. I'm just going to hope Apple fixes it. I'll figure out another solution in the mean time. Yes, it sucks, but it's just music I will live. Keep calm everyone!
     
  12. manu chao macrumors 603

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    I can guarantee you that the songs that caused problems for me were nowhere near those extreme cases, they were just plain, standard music files, some even some fairly recent purchases from the iTunes Store. And extrapolating from that, I would say that the vast majority of songs other people have problems with also aren't those extreme edge cases.

    I think that should never happen in the first place, when I delete or 'remove' a song, it should be deleted, possibly with a warning if it is song that is 'owned' compared to one that is 'rented'. Already now one can differentiate between deleting just the locally stored download of a song and removing it from 'My Music'. Only if you wanted to have an option to unclutter the view on an iOS device by not only removing the download but also the listing, would it make sense to have a 'remove from My Music' not causing the song to be also removed from the iTunes library. But you can unclutter the view already now by limiting it to only locally stored songs. An integrated cloud-based, synced to all devices music library shouldn't mean that deleting a song in one place has to be followed up with deleting the song in other places.

    Before iCML, iOS devices generally contained what iTunes put on them. Yes, you could buy songs or movies and they would transfer back to iTunes (I think) but those were exceptions from the rule (and rented movies already weren't part of that). But I always thought iTunes wasn't totally clear whether deleting something on a device (be it a song, an app or a movie) would stay 'deleted' after syncing with iTunes (it didn't always, sometime iTunes put things back on, keeping the general notion alive that an iOS device contained a subsection of an iTunes library, controlled by iTunes.

    Again, I think that should never happen. Why would for example purchasing a song in iTunes (or ripping a CD) not add that song to 'My Music'/iCML? Isn't spending money on a song a very clear affirmative that I want that song to by part of my music?


    Believe me, I spend about 20 hours in total trying to solve things (not only this problem but many others with AM/iCML). At some point you have to call it quits and accept that the sensible decision is to wait a while for a good deal of the bugs being fixed.


    Seems lazy. It's pretty cut and dry really. You had songs NOT in IML. Find which ones, add them back. [/QUOTE]
    After you have added the same song three or four times, this feels like a futile enterprise. See above, I am not giving up on iCML, I am passing the baton to other fellow beta-testers and let them help Apple to fix most of the bugs and once that is done I'am coming back. I don't think there is anything lazy in (sometimes) skipping 1.0 releases.
     
  13. lagwagon Suspended

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    What you quoted was said to someone else.

    I'm trying to help you and get this solved. He jumped in to argue against the three things I know for a fact can cause the error. (Just 2 hours ago I made a playlist of 2786 songs, a mix of owned and stuff added through Apple Music from my MacBook and popped right up on my phone without a single hitch. (Because I made sure non of those three things to check were present.)

    But if you want to ignore the help, go ahead. I could careless really if you get it solved at this point.
     
  14. Sonmi451 thread starter Suspended

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    I know, I was defending my fellow human beings. And while I quoted your post, it was also kinda directed at the dude above who kept prodding. I wasn't trying to single you out directly or anything.

    I appreciate the help for sure but I haven't had the chance to really dig into some of the solutions provided here. I plan to later. I'll give you bonus points for saying "could care less".
     

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