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Tech198

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Now that i have *both*services, iTunes Match & Apple music, i'm wonder where the 'matching' will come from..

Apple music plays and 'matches' by Apple catalog (I assume matches by this as well as streamig)
iTunes Match matches via iTunes Store.

So, what happens when u have Both together ? since these come from different areas. will i find my songs match up with Apple music regardless or via vesa ?
 

Tech198

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Thanks, but it didn't explain exactly..

It only referrers to "our catalog" in both sections which means what exactly ?

Apple music refers i'm guess to Apple music catalog,, so what does "our catalog" term refers to in iTunes Match in the artcle?

it can't refer to the same thing, because iTunes match matches to the iTunes store by itself...
 

GIZBUG

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From what I read in maclife, iTunes Match isn't needed if you have Apple Music, as Apple Music matches your collection also
 

ApfelKuchen

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From what I read in maclife, iTunes Match isn't needed if you have Apple Music, as Apple Music matches your collection also
There's one key difference. When you use Apple Music, the copies of "your" matched music that you download from iTunes have Digital Rights Management (DRM). The copies of your matched music that you download from iTunes Match are DRM-free.

So long as you keep subscribing, that difference is not meaningful. However, if you ever end your Apple Music subscription, the downloaded "matched" files are removed from your devices. If you end an iTunes Match subscription, they remain on your devices.

I have little doubt that iTunes Match will be retired at some point, while Apple Music will likely outlast it.
 

Tech198

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ok,,, apparently Apple told me if u have both services any music in the iTunes store only, but not in Apple music catalog would still have up with the store. That may be background info, but there is no proof of this in the GUI, since 'matched' can refer to either.

Should have just read popup as well "...is being matched to the *iTunes Store*

It does make a difference..

If the music is not in Apple music, but *is* in the iTunes Store, u would still want a match right ?

Because if u use iTunes Match as a standalone service, this is where if matches from..


So with *both* AM and Match, why should it be different ?
 

Partron22

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if you ever end your Apple Music subscription, the downloaded "matched" files are removed from your devices.
True?
This sounds like a plot to lock your CD collection into a $10 a month tribute fee to Apple.
Can you get your stuff back in toto after missing a payment?
 

Tech198

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True?
This sounds like a plot to lock your CD collection into a $10 a month tribute fee to Apple.
Can you get your stuff back in toto after missing a payment?

Well... 'matched' means it's matched up to Apple's own catalog.... This is never yours to begin with, and the fact it tags your own music with DRM, extends that notion.

you have to pay for both services to get your music DRM-free (aka... remove your music from Apple music... (if u kept backup's this wouldn't have been a problem), purchase iTunes match, then re-match your music..

That's the only way i know to keep music on your device... as well as iTunes match subscription only solution too.

I'm pretty sure Apple keeps music for a few days after subscription expires.
 
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ApfelKuchen

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True?
This sounds like a plot to lock your CD collection into a $10 a month tribute fee to Apple.
Can you get your stuff back in toto after missing a payment?

It's only a "plot" if you don't understand what it is when you subscribe. If you understand the features, it's simply a service that you know you must continue to pay for, if you wish to continue obtaining the benefits of the service. (One of the chief conveniences is that your CD collection is available, streaming, to all of your iOS devices and computers - no need to do a hardwire sync to get your music onto your devices, and you can have the entire collection available on all devices, rather than the portion that fits into 16GB of Flash (or whatever you happen to have). That's the real service that's being provided.

Apple does maintain your music lists, playlists, etc. on their servers after a payment lapse. You can still fully restore your existing music within a month of the subscription lapse (or maybe two months?).

$10/month is the fee for Apple Music. That includes music matching as one of the features, but since iTunes Match (the matching-only service), costs $25/year (compared to $120/year for Apple Music), we can peg the cost of the matching portion of Apple Music at $2/month.
 

Partron22

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It's only a "plot" if you don't understand what it is when you subscribe.
Agreed.
I wonder what that percentage is?
Not tiny, I expect.
Having never subscribed to either service, I think I'll just continue to avoid them; seems easier.
 
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