Both Apple Music and Spotify have their advantages why not be like me and subscribe to both services .
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Apple Music Now Has 36 Million Subscribers, Could Eclipse Spotify in United States This Year
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Are you sure you have an Apple Music account? Because in addition to the many preset Radio channels that Spotify doesn't have, you can create stations based on every artist with Apple Music. Indeed, on every song, when you click on the "More" button is to create "New Station from Artist." No need to thank me; this is why the forum was created, to share ideas and information among Apple enthusiasts.
Actually didn't know about that, thanks. - I take back what I said, you're absolutely right.
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The answer to that question is pretty obvious.
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I think you’re getting too deep into the weeds and missing the forest here. Sure, AM copied some of Spotify’s features, but why does that matter? If it weren’t for Apple’s focus on discoverability, Spotify might not have some of those features today. In fact I’d argue there’s nothing all that novel about what any of these music subs are doing... certainly not algorithmic music recommendations which has been around well before Spotify.
The point is, there are a ton of ways to “discover" music on AM... and Spotify... more than anyone could consume in one day. But with 15 million more songs to discover on AM than Spotify, that alone gives AM a decided advantage.
I’ve nothing against Spotify; just debunking some very bold claims here by a Spotify enthusiast (or Apple hater) that Spotify is decidedly superior in every way.
It was your argument that Spotify copied Apple Music in making discover weekly - it did not.
You keep using this 15 million figure. Spotify hasn't officially released figures on how many songs they have in a very long time - the last figure I've seen is "over 40 million", posted by one of their forum moderators in November.
Funnily enough there's an old article from 2013 saying 4 million (20%) of their then 20 million song library had literally never been played. Getting wrapped up in this figure is totally meaningless.
The moral of the story here is use what you prefer and stop bashing people for using something else.
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There is, just don't turn on Purchase sharing or iCloud storage
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You don't have to have all Apple IDs set up as family. Only the organizer and that is the one that adds the family members. If all you want to do is share music simply do not turn on Purchase sharing or iCloud storage.
They should also fix and improve the Windows iTunes app. The only reason I keep iTunes around despite it being an abomination is because it's the easiest way to load things onto my iPhone.
I think the problem here is you jumped into the discussion without reading the entire thread and with little understanding of the origin of the discussion.
There's only so many ways I can say this so I'll say it one last time and if you disagree, that's fine. Apple made helping users discover new songs/artists a priority since AM's launch, and as part of that, they introduced a weekly playlist. Spotify pivoted to do the same. They were different approaches but the goal was the same and both subs have evolved considerably since then. Again, forest, not trees.
When did I bash anyone for using Spotify? The moral of the story was already stated by me... Don't make absurd fanboyish arguments (not you, the original poster).
Maybe 20% of Spotify's catalog in 2013 was never played because they didn't focus on discoverability until after AM? I'm not saying quantity is the be all, end all for discoverability, but having a bigger catalog sure helps... and even if we give this moderator the benefit of the doubt... 5 million songs is still a LOT more music.
While Spotify was developing a music platform in 2008, Apple was hard at work developing a ridiculously profitable and popular ecosystem of devices and services. It makes sense that they would leverage that ecosystem against competitors. I doubt they see their ecosystem as a "bonus". Instead, the ecosystem is the central part of their strategy across all product lines.
As for you waiting a year or two for them to open their ecosystem, you have already passed your expire date on Apple Music which was introduced in June 2015.
I think the problem here is that you've been incorrect about nearly everything you've claimed...
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I don’t love subscriptions either, but in this case, I was easily spending more each month on purchasing music and getting less for it. I enjoy giving new artists a chance, and also like to dig into back catalog stuff. That gets expensive when buying music outright, which is a motivation for caution. Buy too many albums you listen to only once or twice, and you eventually start to just listen to the stuff you already know. For some people that’s fine; that’s why oldies radio stations are still profitable. With the subscription model its affordable to get through some duds in order to find brillian music you might never have found otherwise.
Thank-you for pointing this out, that's a really great help.
I think you’re missing something here. You can indeed download songs, playlists, and albums in Apple Music. Mind you, when you click “add” to add something to you library, you have not downloaded it yet. Once you click “add,” however, that button changes into a cloud icon with an arrow pointing down. That means -you guessed it- “download.” Click on that, and the content is copied to your device. The icon then changes to “downloaded.” You’re then free to listen with no further data connectivity or transfers, and it stays on your device until you remove it.
I'll agree that iTunes started taking on too many roles, but as I use it, it's nearly identical to how it was when I started using it back in 2001. Granted, that's not the default view, but it's capable of being nearly the same still.
That is incorrect. Discover Weekly debuted in 2015.
I’ve used Apple Music within the last year. I know what it offers and I’ve tried its music discovery options. They are not in the same league as Spotify.
Gee maybe I have a different AM subscription, but I have at least 10 stations based on artists.
Both do. Spotify has an offline limit of 3333 songs, AM has no such limit.
So you played with it at the Apple Store, huh?
. Look, I’ve had this discussion with another poster... Apple focused on discovery first which Spotify copied... and yes, Apple later copied Spotify’s algorithmic approach. Tit for tat, but Apple was first.https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ma...erior-playlists-with-discover-weekly.amp.html
But getting to the real point of this discussion, discovery, not only does Apple Music offer similar ways to discover music as Spotify, but it has a larger catalog and live radio 24/7... you know, how most people discovered music back in the day.
Except everything is recorded and available on demand so you can listen to your favorite DJ, show and/or artist that suit your taste. AM also offers more radio options that are far superior to what’s spotify offers. So not only is AM in the same league as Spotify for discovering music, some would argue it’s superior. But if you prefer Spotify, hey, that’s fine... just don’t tout it like it’s a fact.I have a much different experience. I look at Spotify as a toy jukebox while AM is run like a real radio station. An example of that is how new releases are handled. Spotify releases single after single as tracks become available, AM adds the entire album, marks it pre-release and makes the advance tracks available. When release date comes all the tracks are available. Much more elegant.