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Amusing... Now that is you who is getting really paranoid.... :D

Sonos " just works" as apple products did either - once upon a time....

It is not astonishing at all that there are many millions of happy sonos customers reporting there flawless use of the reliable soft- and hardware made by Sonos....

As for misinformation: mostly by uninformed people who never used Sonos products.

Do a search for unhappy Sonos customers. Will be frustrating for you....

Way to totally miss the point...

I have been a very happy Sonos customer since 2005...

And the first ZP100 units I bought are working as well today as they did 10 years ago.
 
How about Sonos try supporting services that users were already using regularly - like Audible.

Oh wait, they removed audible support last year without any kind of replacement and there's no ETA on getting it back again. Glad I dropped £2k on your equipment Sonos, to use a feature that you decided to remove in a firmware update :rolleyes:

My HEOS speakers also don't have Audible which is annoying, but they have a USB port on the back where I can plug in a $5 bluetooth adapter and stream to them that way.
 
My HEOS speakers also don't have Audible which is annoying, but they have a USB port on the back where I can plug in a $5 bluetooth adapter and stream to them that way.

You can do that on the play:5 as well. You can plug a cheap bluetooth adapter with a 3.5mm jack and will stream also to other speakers on the same network.
 
You can do that on the play:5 as well. You can plug a cheap bluetooth adapter with a 3.5mm jack and will stream also to other speakers on the same network.

Didn't know that. Cool. Each of the Heos 1,3,5,7 speakers have the 3.5mm and USB. A friend of mine had the Sonos speakers, sound great, look great.
 
Been on the beta and had very few issues. The only issue I had at the start of the beta was the radio stations would stop playing and you'd have to close the sonos app and restart to get them working again.

How do we get off the beta to the public release?

Check your email from Sonos:

The Beta of Apple Music on Sonos is Complete

When it comes to enjoying music in the home, you are the experts and we’ve learned so much from you. Apple Music on Sonos has been released to the world and now everyone can listen - outloud and at home. Your participation as a Sonos Beta member has helped us create an experience we’re all very proud of. Thank you.

So What’s Next?

This Private Beta program has officially ended and the software you were testing is now available in the app stores. For Android, Mac and PC users, simply click the “Update Now” prompt on your devices to return your system to the publicly available version. Please uninstall the beta or “rc” versions of the app on your mobile devices and visit the app stores to download the latest version.

Our job of improving the Sonos experience never ends, so you may hear from us again to participate in future Private Beta programs. If you’d like to leave the Sonos Beta program, follow these instructions.

Thank you again for your help in making Apple Music on Sonos a reality,

This. Don't get me wrong, I'm intrigued, but I wonder if it'd be really useful in a home where everyone has their own taste in music...

...Now if the Amazon Echo could get Apple Music support...

Your concern has probably already been addressed, but every room can play different music to the liking of its occupants. Also, if different tastes are in the same room each person can add songs/tracks to the queue. So everyone's tastes are represented.

Since I also have a Playbar I like to pipe a football game on television throughout the house. So I can watch the game in the den and still follow it when I'm grabbing something from the kitchen.
 
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My HEOS speakers also don't have Audible which is annoying, but they have a USB port on the back where I can plug in a $5 bluetooth adapter and stream to them that way.

That's quite neat. Wouldn't have thought of that.

Unfortunately neither the Playbar nor the Play 1's have any kind of USB or 3.5mm audio jack so I can't use a bluetooth adapter or even a line in. Madness for such expensive kit.
 
Sonos is the Apple of home audio. Combining the two is awesome. Sonos recently added a tuning app which optimizes EQ for the acoustics in each room, and now the sound quality is even better...and uniform throughout the house. Considering I have music playing pretty much all day long throughout the house I really don't flinch at the price anymore...if you love music, this is the system for you.
 
Sonos is the Apple of home audio. .

Sonos is even better than apple:

1) They give you the chance to use and connect nearly whatever you like to use or connect in their system: NO walled garden. They just add their options of own speakers, but they don´t oblige you to use them in an "closed Eco-system".
2) Unless the last years with apple, The SONOS Software works flawlessly and smooth and they continuously work on perfection and further GOOD and intelligent features, not just on useless gimmicks like apple does more and more.
3) Their customer service is impressive: had once a problem with my System (not due to a problem with Sonos itself, but with my local computer configuration) and the German customer service helped me out the same day by perfect advices via email.
4) In contrast to apple, SONOS hardware is absolutely reliable. NEVER had any problem over all the years.
The only exception was their own remote-controlls, but in the era of smartphones nobody uses them no more. And they discontinued the production of their remote controls which had after 2 years of use a problem with the touch screen. (Both 2 of them failed after 2 years of -intense - use).
5) I use professional Monitors and semipro/pro equipment. And I am impressed - for a consumer product, the Sonos system has good balanced level of reliability and reproduction quality.


Some words about TruePlay and Room acoustics and good speakers:

The new "Trueplay" feature is not bad. BUT for some reasons, especially acoustics and psychoacoustic perception (Tags: Directivity and early reflections) the best way for better listening is still optimizing position of speakers and position of Listener and intelligent work on room acoustics.

With "Trueplay" you don´t change room acoustics at all, you just"equalize" frequency already twisted by bad room acoustics. Proper listening conditions are nothing but about relation between direct and reflected sound. It is about both: frequency response and also on delayed reflected signal.
The more the direct part the better the sound, because there are less layer of the same signal you receive after being reflected in the room. Reflected part of signal comes with delay and is smearing by some over-added delayed layers of the same sound. Dependent on room acoustics reflected sound comes to your ears also with extremely twisted frequency response. This causes colored sound. The delay of reflected signal diminishes localisation of the stereo/ Multichannel informations.

With Trueplay you don't change anything about that. You just work a little bit on the symptoms but not the causes for bad listening conditions. Optimizing sound for more neutrality means

1) using speakers with as much ---> "directivity" as possible (equal over all frequencies to eliminate colored sound). This will prevent too much ---> "early reflections". This means speaker has flat frequencies not only "on axis" but also "off axis" - one of the most if not THE most important difference between good and bad speakers.

2) eliminate early reflections of all frequencies as much as possible. This will result in a much better relation of direct sound and reflected sound. The aim should be to have >50% direct signal and <50% reflected signal.

Trueplay is not at all useless, it makes sound a little bit better, but not more than that.
But this "a little bit better" sound should motivate you to work also on room acoustics which - if well done - will result in much more better sound than only with Trueplay. And a listening experience which is overwhelming.

The good news: Working on room acoustics is not that expensive.
 
The market of sonos is a multi-billion $ market.
Apple is too late. And they will try to destroy or buy sonos ... Apple is a company ruthlessly making money.

Honestly, I don't think Apple has any interest in destroying Sonos but buying it would make lot of sense. However, I would hate it if that would ever happen. Sonos has amazing support for their hardware. When you buy something from Sonos it will be top of its game even after many many years of usage. They just keep updating their hardware with FW upgrades. If Apple bought Sonos then that would be end of the great era. Honestly, Sonos devices are amazingly good investments and investment like that in consumer electronics are very hard to find.
 
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Because the speakers access the music directly from the source (Apple Music, Radio, Amazon, Spotify, NAS etc.) not from the phone. You just use the app to tell it what to play. That makes it far more reliable than something which depends on a clear signal from your phone the whole time. It can stream from your phone if you want it too, but IMO, that's just a nice-to-have compared to what it really does.

I am thinking of buying a Sonos speaker set-up. Does this mean if I have an individual Apple Music account, I can direct the Sonos app to my account, then anyone in my family or visitors (who have different iTunes accounts) can still control my Apple Music service via their phone as long as they have the Sonos app plus the wifi code?

If so then this will be really useful, full access to iTunes Music via the speaker by anyone in the house who I provide the wifi code to.
 
I am thinking of buying a Sonos speaker set-up. Does this mean if I have an individual Apple Music account, I can direct the Sonos app to my account, then anyone in my family or visitors (who have different iTunes accounts) can still control my Apple Music service via their phone as long as they have the Sonos app plus the wifi code?

If so then this will be really useful, full access to iTunes Music via the speaker by anyone in the house who I provide the wifi code to.

Yes. Everyone connected to the Sonos system has access.

But note that you won't be able to stream on Sonos and stream on one of your personal devices at the same time (e.g. you are away from home and a family member is at home). If you want to be able to do multiple streams as the same time, still need an Apple Music family account.
 
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