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Re: Re: Re: Re: Why would you download to iPod
yeah, that'd work. it's the ipod part that's the issue.
yeah, that'd work. it's the ipod part that's the issue.
then why give me the option of AAC, AIFF, MP3, or WAV at encoding, and then the different bitrates of each. If they didn't want you to be able to choose, then they'd give you one option at one bitrate.
Re: Why would you download to iPod
Welll converting an AAC file to AIFF for burning a CD and then back to AAC or MP3 would yield a really crappy quality file.
Yeah, I think they will need to put something into the file to allow you to copy it off the iPod.
Welll converting an AAC file to AIFF for burning a CD and then back to AAC or MP3 would yield a really crappy quality file.
Yeah, I think they will need to put something into the file to allow you to copy it off the iPod.
Re: Re: Why would you download to iPod
Well, my understanding is that AAC->CD->MP3 gives a really poor quality audio file, but AAC->CD->AAC maintains most or all of the original quality. But, then, that's just my understanding. I haven't experimented with it...yet.
Well, my understanding is that AAC->CD->MP3 gives a really poor quality audio file, but AAC->CD->AAC maintains most or all of the original quality. But, then, that's just my understanding. I haven't experimented with it...yet.
Re: Re: Re: Why would you download to iPod
I hope you're right. But even if you are, I still would hope Apple would allow those files to be taken off the iPod for a lot of reasons listed, and also since if you already HAVE the iPod, burning to a CD just to take possiblly even one song home is a waste of money and materials.
I hope you're right. But even if you are, I still would hope Apple would allow those files to be taken off the iPod for a lot of reasons listed, and also since if you already HAVE the iPod, burning to a CD just to take possiblly even one song home is a waste of money and materials.
Maybe what they're thinking is that if you own an iPod, then you probably own a mac (run with me on this one...) and if you own a mac and an iPod, then you probably have iTunes. And if you have an iPod and iTunes along with a mac, then you probably have internet access at home. So why go to a kiosk if you have an iPod? Make the music available to everyone (once again, lowest common denominator) that has a CD player - pretty ubiquitous at this point.
I understand that the windows element of the iPod clouds this a bit, but they can't use the service right now anyway... so i don't need to include them in my arguement for the moment - see the thread on iTunes for Windows
I understand that the windows element of the iPod clouds this a bit, but they can't use the service right now anyway... so i don't need to include them in my arguement for the moment - see the thread on iTunes for Windows
Re: Re: Apple Music Stations
Hello? Montreal Expos. Toronto Blue Jays.
But seriously, America is the largest single market in the world. It's just as much work to license music for sale in America as it is to do so for sale in Sri Lanka, so it makes perfect business sense that Apple should concentrate on the domestic market first. Sure, if you live overseas I can understand how you might be disappointed that the Music Service isn't available to you. But the fact that you're disappointed with it doesn't naturally translate into it's being a bad idea on Apple's part.
Hello? Montreal Expos. Toronto Blue Jays.
But seriously, America is the largest single market in the world. It's just as much work to license music for sale in America as it is to do so for sale in Sri Lanka, so it makes perfect business sense that Apple should concentrate on the domestic market first. Sure, if you live overseas I can understand how you might be disappointed that the Music Service isn't available to you. But the fact that you're disappointed with it doesn't naturally translate into it's being a bad idea on Apple's part.
Re: Re: Why would you download to iPod
Actually, it sounds just fine. I just did it with both, just to see. AAC-AIFF-MP3 192 kbps sounds fine, and AAC-AIFF-AAC sounds fine. In fact, I can't distingush between the first-generation AAC and the second-generation AAC in my highly unscientific listening tests. That is, I can hear subtle differences, but unless I look at the file names I can't tell you which one was encoded from which.
Actually, it sounds just fine. I just did it with both, just to see. AAC-AIFF-MP3 192 kbps sounds fine, and AAC-AIFF-AAC sounds fine. In fact, I can't distingush between the first-generation AAC and the second-generation AAC in my highly unscientific listening tests. That is, I can hear subtle differences, but unless I look at the file names I can't tell you which one was encoded from which.
How's this for an idea? Apple sets up AirPort Extreme base stations in airport terminals. You open up your laptop and sign on to the network. But rather than providing you with Internet access, the wireless network connects your laptop to a server that lets you download FairPlay-encoded MPEG-4 movies. Say, for $10, you can download the widescreen MPEG-4 version of "The Matrix" and watch it on your laptop. At 11 Mbps, the download would take many minutes, but at 54 Mbps it wouldn't be bad at all. You launch a little application ("iFlicks") that lets you browse the library of available movies and choose which one or ones to buy. Click "BUY MOVIE," type in your password, and poof. When you get on the plane, you've got a new movie to watch. When you get home, you can burn the movie to DVD Video for personal use.
And it's not just movies. Miss last week's Simpsons? Download it for $2.50. Or get an entire season of Simpsons's for $30.
Such a service wouldn't compete with DVD's for the same reason iTunes Music Store doesn't really compete with CD's: people will pay more for high-quality media with extras. But it would be a great alternative.
And, of course, from there it's a short hop to video-on-demand to the home. We'd need to increase broadband speeds by a factor of 10 or so, but that shouldn't be too hard given enough time and incentive.
Jeff - I think that's a great idea, and one that probably isn't too far down the line. With wireless connection speeds increasing almost 4 fold just in the last year, movies on demand would be the obvious direction for the iTunes/iAMS service. Although since iMovie is already taken as a name, I guess we'd have to move to iFlix (or something to that effect). I for one would like to be able to do just that before boarding a flight. I mean, what else can you do while waiting for your plane or standing in line at the ticket counter?
We can get Homeland Security on board, too, because people who carry their entertainment with them on their laptops or who download it while in the airport have marginally less carry-on luggage, which means less to search or scan, which means shorter waits at the airport, which might even eventually translate into fewer TSA employees in the long run.
"Um, I'm sorry, sir. We need you to go ahead and download this copy of "The Matrix" to your laptop... It's a matter of National Security, you see."
hehe
Cool!
I think this idea is great. They should also put these machines in malls that don't have Apple Stores this way there is a little bit of Apple in all of the malls. They should also have FireWire ports in the wall around the mall so you can charge your iPod while someone else is at the machine...This is goign to be so cool!
I think this idea is great. They should also put these machines in malls that don't have Apple Stores this way there is a little bit of Apple in all of the malls.
They should also have FireWire ports in the wall around the mall so you can charge your iPod while someone else is at the machine...This is goign to be so cool!
Originally posted by Mudbug
"Um, I'm sorry, sir. We need you to go ahead and download this copy of "The Matrix" to your laptop... It's a matter of National Security, you see."
hehe
Hahahahaha, thats great haha!
Good one Mudbug,
Re: Cool!
Okay, so now you're just being silly.
No, really. The movie/tv show download idea sounds kinda interesting. Since they were so successful with the big 5 music co's, what about brokering a deal with the television networks for downloadable MPeg4 television shows - commercial free, encoded for copy protection (I hate that term) available for download for a few bucks a show. I for one would be willing to pay the same price as I would a DVD to get the entire first season or two of the simpsons downloaded to my machine. Then the iVideo/iWalk thing that those crazy spymac photoshop goobers keep mocking up might be a good idea. Take the second season of "The Sopranos" with you on that "interminably long car ride with the entire family to visit distant unknown relatives and see the Grand Canyon while you're at it this summer" trip.
There might be something to this, you know...
Originally posted by LimeiBook86
I think this idea is great. They should also put these machines in malls that don't have Apple Stores this way there is a little bit of Apple in all of the malls.
Okay, so now you're just being silly.
No, really. The movie/tv show download idea sounds kinda interesting. Since they were so successful with the big 5 music co's, what about brokering a deal with the television networks for downloadable MPeg4 television shows - commercial free, encoded for copy protection (I hate that term) available for download for a few bucks a show. I for one would be willing to pay the same price as I would a DVD to get the entire first season or two of the simpsons downloaded to my machine. Then the iVideo/iWalk thing that those crazy spymac photoshop goobers keep mocking up might be a good idea. Take the second season of "The Sopranos" with you on that "interminably long car ride with the entire family to visit distant unknown relatives and see the Grand Canyon while you're at it this summer" trip.
There might be something to this, you know...
iTunes4
Hello,
Why would there need to be another software package to do your movies?
Here is my theory.
Apple developed Safari, just so they could build iTunes4.
Why did Apple really need a Browser? Sure it helps to make an Apple browser, but now that the Apple Music Store is out and it is obvious that iTunes is doing webbrowsing (even if it is only one site)...
And, remember, you can watch music video's with iTunes and Apple Music Store also.
I would buy some of the music videos out there, and I am sure there are others.
And, if you would buy a music video or a concert (video), then you would probably buy a movie.
I really see the Apple Music store as just the start to Apple Media store.
And, iTunes already handles it all (music, webpages, and video).
No need for new client software, just new backend software.
Well, hope this makes sense.
Hello,
Why would there need to be another software package to do your movies?
Here is my theory.
Apple developed Safari, just so they could build iTunes4.
Why did Apple really need a Browser? Sure it helps to make an Apple browser, but now that the Apple Music Store is out and it is obvious that iTunes is doing webbrowsing (even if it is only one site)...
And, remember, you can watch music video's with iTunes and Apple Music Store also.
I would buy some of the music videos out there, and I am sure there are others.
And, if you would buy a music video or a concert (video), then you would probably buy a movie.
I really see the Apple Music store as just the start to Apple Media store.
And, iTunes already handles it all (music, webpages, and video).
No need for new client software, just new backend software.
Well, hope this makes sense.
Re: iTunes4
Because there were NO good free web browsers for the Mac. IE was just awful. Mozilla and their ilk are trash. OmniWeb looked great but had serious problems with CSS and JavaScript.
Apple NEEDED a browser. Besides, there's a heck of a lot more to Safari than just an HTML rendering component. If that was all they needed, why did they go through all the trouble of making the JavaScript component?
The iTunes Music Store is not, contrary to increasingly popular opinion, a web application.
Well, yes and no. If you imagine an iTunes for video media, it would actually be quite different from the iTunes we have today. I would rather see an iTunes for audio and an iFlicks for video than to see both functions crammed into the same program.
After all, it would be possible to cram music playback, calendaring, email, movie editing, and DVD burning into one big program, too, but Apple doesn't do things that way. Instead we have iTunes, iCal, Mail, iMovie, and iDVD. Adding an iFlicks (or whatever) would follow the model nicely.
Because there were NO good free web browsers for the Mac. IE was just awful. Mozilla and their ilk are trash. OmniWeb looked great but had serious problems with CSS and JavaScript.
Apple NEEDED a browser. Besides, there's a heck of a lot more to Safari than just an HTML rendering component. If that was all they needed, why did they go through all the trouble of making the JavaScript component?
The iTunes Music Store is not, contrary to increasingly popular opinion, a web application.
Well, yes and no. If you imagine an iTunes for video media, it would actually be quite different from the iTunes we have today. I would rather see an iTunes for audio and an iFlicks for video than to see both functions crammed into the same program.
After all, it would be possible to cram music playback, calendaring, email, movie editing, and DVD burning into one big program, too, but Apple doesn't do things that way. Instead we have iTunes, iCal, Mail, iMovie, and iDVD. Adding an iFlicks (or whatever) would follow the model nicely.
Re: Re: iTunes4
I don't think Apple did create a javascript engine, that all was bundled along with KHTML. I'm sure they improved the Javascript functionality in KHTML however.
But yes, i am very sure they made Safari for other reasons - like having their own web browser, than just for AppleMusic. It makes OS/X more complete (than having to rely on dodgy microsoft products).
I don't think Apple did create a javascript engine, that all was bundled along with KHTML. I'm sure they improved the Javascript functionality in KHTML however.
But yes, i am very sure they made Safari for other reasons - like having their own web browser, than just for AppleMusic. It makes OS/X more complete (than having to rely on dodgy microsoft products).
iFlicks sounds great
I realize this is a few years off, if at all, but I can't wait for something like this! Just a few questions though:
How big is a mpeg4 movie (say compared to an mpeg 2 movie)?
Can DVD players read mpeg4 and ACC?
Can consumer DVD burners fit the whole movie on a single disk?
Can anyone else start to see the demise of blockbuster (YES!!)?
Can Apple instead choose to make a connector (wireless??) that uses your computer as the DVD player and send audio and video to your TV the same exact way a stand alone DVD player does (rather then using TV-OUT and having no sound)?
One more thing I was thinking of........It would be way cool if you could share your home movies, or even publish your own movies similar to the way you use iCal, and can get people's calendars. Just another one of the many possibilities with this great idea.
--Waluigi
I realize this is a few years off, if at all, but I can't wait for something like this! Just a few questions though:
How big is a mpeg4 movie (say compared to an mpeg 2 movie)?
Can DVD players read mpeg4 and ACC?
Can consumer DVD burners fit the whole movie on a single disk?
Can anyone else start to see the demise of blockbuster (YES!!)?
Can Apple instead choose to make a connector (wireless??) that uses your computer as the DVD player and send audio and video to your TV the same exact way a stand alone DVD player does (rather then using TV-OUT and having no sound)?
One more thing I was thinking of........It would be way cool if you could share your home movies, or even publish your own movies similar to the way you use iCal, and can get people's calendars. Just another one of the many possibilities with this great idea.
--Waluigi
Reality check
Before you all faint with excitment...
How long would any access port, firewire or whatever, be functional before someone plugs it up with gum or spray paint???
Minutes... in most locations.
Before you all faint with excitment...
How long would any access port, firewire or whatever, be functional before someone plugs it up with gum or spray paint???
Minutes... in most locations.