Apple Music to Label AI-Generated Songs

[goobot]

I mean I mostly listen to classical music but thanks I guess lol

The first ai music I heard a few months back was modern songs turned into classical songs

 

[Genelec8341]

Art is art if created by a human. Otherwise it’s garbage.

That is your taste; your opinion.
It is not a fact supported by established academy. And that is good, as an individual opinion, yours has merit.

 

[Happy_John]

@turbineseaplane downvotes my post and I am gratified because I was fairly certain I was on their block list from prior ideologic activity.

Allow me to posit this: What is or is not art and what is or is not taste for the same?

I don't care for seafood, lobster and crab is gross, to my taste. Some agree and some disagree. What is the established metric on individual tastes? There isn't one. It's a matter of opinion.

To be clear, I tend to favor rock music from 1977 because I believe that is the high point of artistry in the genre, but I'm not closed to any sound because of how or when it was generated.

Art is art even if it is synthetic

Art has to be synthetic, or artificial. A teee can be beautiful, but it’s not art. I can be a component in a piece of art, as an element in a garden.

What makes art into art is that a human being directly structures the components and directly uses tools to make the thing. And there’s some emotional input and output - AI can’t do emotion. Ask AI to generate a sad sing, it has no conception of sad, it will reference what other humans have carat irises as sad.

Electronic music is art, Completely AI generated “music” is not. Giving a prompt “genre x with theme y” isn’t enough to say “I’m an artist”. Prompting an AI to write a book from prompts doesn’t make the promoter an author.

Is a DJ an artist? I’d say no, they’re a curator and a performer, but not an artist, but if they’re doing more than simply playing one song after another, and are somehow creating something new, they might be.

Taste is simply your preference in what you find enjoyable or interesting.

 

[Genelec8341]

Art has to be synthetic, or artificial. A teee can be beautiful, but it’s not art. I can be a component in a piece of art, as an element in a garden.

What makes art into art is that a human being directly structures the components and directly uses tools to make the thing.

Electronic music is art, Completely AI generated “music” is not. Giving a prompt “genre x with theme y” isn’t enough to say “I’m an artist”. Prompting an AI to write a book from prompts doesn’t make the promoter an author.


Taste is simply your preference in what you find enjoyable or interesting.

We'll said, but I suggest the products value is how it is perceived- accepted or rejected by the listener/viewer.
All of the opinions of AI music from the participants in this thread are valid.

I'm old and remember a piece on SNL where Dan Ackroyd had a bit called "Bad Art"
It's an oxymoron and at that time it wasn't such a polarizing concept. Groovy man.

 

[neuropsychguy]

The time will come when AI content becomes undetectable.
As far as I'm concerned, great music fell ill in the 1990s and died with the new century. Pretty much everything since then has been insipid and mind-numbing.

Sounds like what people have been saying for at least hundreds of years. If you can’t find good music written after the 1990s you aren’t looking.

 

[Tr55]

There's a world of difference between a human using a computer and its tooling to help create their music and straight up AI generated songs.

Yes but that music could need a human written prompt, that prompt could be quite sophisticated. It may go through a number of iterations before it’s done.

why should that be essentially banned?

AI is cutting a swathe through certain professions but apparently musicians want to be exempt

 

[Genelec8341]

Sounds like what people have been saying for at least hundreds of years. If you can’t find good music written after the 1990s you aren’t looking.

Hundreds? Time travelers have been saying that since cassette tape certainly.
Looks at watch.. j/k

 

[con2apple]

I mean I mostly listen to classical music but thanks I guess lol

Let me guess, at least 20% artificial classic.

Believe me, the slop is everywhere. Because there is money to make.

 

[MichaelAdam]

I bet sooner than later, someone will launch an AI music streaming service and that possibly will be Suno. Some new generation of artists and producers will understand this technology and will propose something new.
. Apple Music at first banned ai music when it has no choice to add AI in his own music production Logic Pro … is Ai music real music ? I am still wondering …

 

[seanrt]

How about just not allowing AI-generated songs period?

Exactly this!

 

[Astuces iOS]

Let me guess, at least 20% artificial classic.

Believe me, the slop is everywhere. Because there is money to make.

Beethoven is AI for you? Don't worry I know what I listen to !

 

[Genelec8341]

In this case, the “artist” is an AI.

No thank you

If the AI was prompted by a human, then what?

At what point does chicken and egg become one and the same?

At what what point does the distinction between A and B become irrelevant?

 

[TJ Human]

I expected Apple to lead with this and have been disappointed they hadn't done anything. Hurts the brand to have AI music mixed in and not identified. I would love for them to tag human-created music as ProudlyHuman™.

 

[ikramerica]

That is an extremist anti-technology position that will hurt people and do nothing. It’s always the usual suspects who take extreme positions and if you look at their posting history it is full of hatred, conspiracy theories and even pro piracy which has hurt artists more than anything.

Synthetic samples and computer generated sounds have existed in music for 60 years. You are basically advocating for a ban on electronic genres just because some anti-AI mania on the internet told you that it is cool to hate.

AI music isn’t just “Hi bot generate me a song”. It can be a thousand things from generating a beat or an effect or a voice filter. All of these have been used for decades using more primitive forms of AI and computer generation.

A music teacher at my son’s music school experimented with AI music generation and said the result he got was amazingly good, much better than he thought he would get.