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Apple Music to Launch on Amazon's Echo Devices the Week of December 17

alexhardaker said:
So the Alexa app will connect to his library through his phone even though I’m paying for it?
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tromboneaholic said:
The short answer is yes.

I don't even think it will need to use his iPhone, he will just log in to Apple Music with his Apple ID.

With Family Sharing his listening history will be tied to his Apple ID, and your history is tied to yours.

So not only are the libraries separate, but the likes, dislikes, skips, "hey Siri never play this song again," are all separate.

It's exactly the same as if he paid for his account and you paid for your account.
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If it's like Spotify, his Alexa device will need to be set up with his own Amazon account, and then the Apple Music skill will be installed and signed to his Apple ID on his Amazon account through the Alexa app. This will let him use his own Apple Music account.

The echo will use the Apple Music library with the Apple ID that's signed into to the Amazon account the Echo is active on.
 
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posguy99 said:
No, I have Spotify and Pandora. I never use Amazon Music (although I have Prime), and have tried and cancelled Apple Music twice. Apple Music is just a hot mess, and useless to me because you can't download for offline listening. Well, you can't download for offline listening unless you enable iCloud Music Library, and only a fool does that.
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Is that true?? You can’t download music for offline?? Whoa.

I appreciate my Amazon Music Unlimited even more now.
 
gforce216 said:
Overall, great move for Apple Music as a service being on more devices. From a hardware perspective, bad news for HomePod.
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Alas no....the echo speakers don’t touch homepod....this is for the j c penney crowd (aren’t they a bit more affluent than the walmart crew?). They might spring for the apple music subscription but will pay $50 for the speakers. Homepods for the yacht, echos for the trailer. LOL
 
decypher44 said:
Is that true?? You can’t download music for offline?? Whoa.

I appreciate my Amazon Music Unlimited even more now.
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Yes, you can download music for offline playback, but I think you do have to have iCloud Music Library enabled for that. I could be wrong, but you can definitely save music.
 
Khedron said:
HomePod doesn't work with movies, TV, YouTube etc. etc.

Whatever non-crappy speakers you're using to listen to that content will work for music too!

HomePod not needed.
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It actually works for all of that stuff. You can airplay from your Apple TV if you really want, you can airplay from youtube if you want.
 
HacKage said:
Perhaps. When my 2015 13MBP dies I'm not sure I can justify the extra cost of a new MBP compared to a Dell XPS. Having had a 15" XPS a couple of years ago, I am fully aware that they are not as good as a MBP, but the price difference for the extra 10% imo build quality and OS doesn't add up.

For a similar spec 13" XPS vs MBP there is a £550/$700 difference.
For a similar spec 15" XPS vs MBP there is a £950/$1200 difference.

As much as I love my MBP, there is absolutely no way I can justify that.
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OK, but your original premise was running macOS on that. What price tag are you envisioning? Windows 10 Pro is $199, and I don't see macOS being any cheaper than that.
 
posguy99 said:
No, I have Spotify and Pandora. I never use Amazon Music (although I have Prime), and have tried and cancelled Apple Music twice. Apple Music is just a hot mess, and useless to me because you can't download for offline listening. Well, you can't download for offline listening unless you enable iCloud Music Library, and only a fool does that.
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Serious question, why does only a fool do that? Somewhat related, Amazon Music is so weird with songs you download being available for offline listening. That is a major reason I want to dump them.
 
mattopotamus said:
Serious question, why does only a fool do that? Somewhat related, Amazon Music is so weird with songs you download being available for offline listening. That is a major reason I want to dump them.
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Amazon music just isn’t that good. I had prime music through my prime membership and I got a free 3 month trial to the full music service. However even with the full u limited service there are songs it doesn’t have that you can find on Apple Music, Spotify and google play music.
 
Aston441 said:
Apple replacing Siri with Alexa would be the greatest thing to happen to iOS in years.
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What, so I can have yet ANOTHER text to speech fail because I have, from what others have said, an apparent "Northwest Accent"?
 
This is absolutely shocking. But I would much rather see Spotify support on Apple products than Apple Music support on Amazon products.
 
mattopotamus said:
Serious question, why does only a fool do that? Somewhat related, Amazon Music is so weird with songs you download being available for offline listening. That is a major reason I want to dump them.
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What was “weird” with your experience? I download albums from Amazon Unlimited all the time with no issues. Genuinely curious what you mean.
 
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deannnnn said:
This is absolutely shocking. But I would much rather see Spotify support on Apple products than Apple Music support on Amazon products.
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That won't happen. The Echo/Apple Music move is what Amazon gave up in order for the Prime Video app to be allowed on Apple TV's. Spotify doesn't have anything to offer Apple.
 
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E3BK said:
That won't happen. The Echo/Apple Music move is what Amazon gave up in order for the Prime Video app to be allowed on Apple TV's. Spotify doesn't have anything to offer Apple.
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No insider knowledge at all, but for me Amazon Prime on ATV was a bigger concession on Amazon’s part than Apples. Apple needs content for ATV.
 
BlueCreek said:
I was still deciding between a couple of HomePods or opting for a Sonos system, looks like I’ll go with Sonos with Alexa as it’s much less limited than the HomePod!
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Yes I agree but would be nice to know for certain that Sonos One would work with Apple Music via Alexa because I believe there was issue with not all skills working. I don’t see why it would not work. This would make me invest more in Sonos for sure.

It would also be nice if Airplay 2 was added to Amazon Echo devices. Their Bluetooth cannot rename the device name and confusing what device to play on if have multiple echos in house.
 
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EdT said:
I think you’re right. Hardware improvements on any brands phones/computers/electronics have been just incremental for 4-5 years but the price for those items keep going up. Apple has primarily been a hardware company for years. Branching out their services is probably a good idea at least right now.
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It's not just a good idea it is absolutely necessary for Apple to do so. They are doing quite a few deals lately and I look forward to hearing about many acquisitions in the next year. There are a lot of people in the market wondering if it is too little too late.

If Apple can announce good guidance next report and then begin to show growing profits with out reporting phones things are great. The first report they make that is lower than expectations without reporting iPhones will mean blood in the water.

Wall Street isn't giving AAPL much love on these type of announcements lately.
 
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Glideslope said:
So someone easdropping on your personal life in general is ok with you? There are far more implications with the device than one being concerned with criminal behavior being revealed. :apple:
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Mate, no, it doesn’t, you can chose to turn its recording feature off, and it only uses it to help the AI learn what you want. How else do you think a proper AI will get better if it can’t actually learn what you like and do? If it doesn’t it just sits there like a dumb assistant like Siri is.
Alexa, despite popular myth, also ONLY listens to you or records you when you activate it. Otherwise it just sits there listening for the Alexa activation word or whatever you set it to.
Amazon don’t have underground bikers full of sergers recording what millions of people say 24/7, apparently that’s the NSA who do that...
 
Agreed. I have a lot of Sonos products, I'm an Apple Music subscriber, and I bought two Echo Dots on Black Friday. I'd really like them all to work in harmony.
 
EdT said:
No insider knowledge at all, but for me Amazon Prime on ATV was a bigger concession on Amazon’s part than Apples. Apple needs content for ATV.
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I don't totally disagree but you forget that part of Amazon's strategy is just to be everywhere. They want marketshare and however they get there, even if they lose money getting there, they'll do it. Amazon's Firestick wasn't about selling the device, it was about people signing up for Prime, in which Prime Video is included. Hey! Sign up for Prime Video AND get free 2 day shipping on millions of items that you order from Amazon! That's right, buy everything you need from Amazon.

Because the long term goal is global domination in everything. In the end, these are all billionaire games and we (consumers) all win/lose to a certain extent.
 
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tromboneaholic said:
I wonder where we could find something like that?

Amazon Web Services is a subsidiary of Amazon.com that provides on-demand cloud computing platforms to individuals, companies and governments.​
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Likewise, I was just going to comment on the new partnership between Amazon and the US Government, both military and intelligence services.
 
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