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Apple needs to release a iPadBook

sracer said:
1. You are correct.
2. Incorrect. No one wanted Microsoft's vision of what a full OS on a tablet looked like.
3. Incorrect.
4. Partially correct.
5. Partially correct.
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2. I said past tense. No one wanted (past tense) a full OS (Windows, the only full one) on a tablet.
3. Apple can't beat Msoft to market because not only did Msoft try it (full OS on a tablet) first, but W8 will ship before anything Apple does after Lion. So again, Apple will not be first, so they won't beat anyone to market.

Pointing to the previous failed attempts by Apple's competitors is a poor argument for claiming that Apple cannot succeed.
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I said "Its possible that Apple will succeed where others failed." I never claimed Apple can't do it.
 
Didn't Steve Jobs say when they unveiled the MacBook Pro that they tried to do a touch screen mac but failed? because of the Ergonomic failed.
 
Neat idea, impossible execution

It's actually an idea that makes a lot of sense on the surface, and variations on the dualbooting idea have been at work for a while (Lenovo's Hybrid, Fujitu's dualbooting smartphone)

This idea always seems to intrigue people who think it's the best of both, but the final result cannot help but be disappointing because inevitably you get the worst of both worlds.

Let's consider why. This is basically a rehash of Windows Tablet PC idea, but with the dual boot option thrown in. (and yes, I am a forced Windows Tablet PC user, thank you for asking)

- Exterior design: There'll have to be some extra hinge or other swivel mechanism, or at least some sort of docking thing. This means the tablet will be thicker, heavier, more complicated, less visually pleasing, more fragile and more expensive to produce.

- Innards: Basically it'll have to be a Macbook Air with the iPad circuit thrown in with extra sophistication. The final result will have to be larger and heavier than Macbook Air, significantly, and will be much more expensive.

So we now have a Macbook Air,except it's more expensive, not anymore powerful, and heavier. Also we have a tablet that's heavier and larger, more expensive and not anymore powerful than iPad. It's absolutely the worst of both worlds.

Apple will try to combine iOS and OSX at some point, but for now, the OSX tablet is a terrible idea. iPad has taken off precisely because Apple realized they had to ditch the desktop legacy, whereas Microsoft had been trying hard to bring the legacy into the tablet for the 10 years and failed.
 
fertilized-egg said:
So we now have a Macbook Air,except it's more expensive, not anymore powerful, and heavier. Also we have a tablet that's heavier and larger, more expensive and not anymore powerful than iPad. It's absolutely the worst of both worlds.
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Dont forget that you still have to carry around two devices because you're not going to leave it docked all the time. Then people will be upset that they can't just use OSX while in tablet mode because they're tired of having to carry around the keyboard part just in case they need it.
 
darngooddesign said:
Dont forget that you still have to carry around two devices because you're not going to leave it docked all the time.
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To be fair, although I did mention docking the OP's idea was pretty much a carbon copy of the Windows Tablet PC where you flip the hinged screen. So the keyboard will always be there except it'll be a terrible tablet to hold and use.
 
fertilized-egg said:
To be fair, although I did mention docking the OP's idea was pretty much a carbon copy of the Windows Tablet PC where you flip the hinged screen. So the keyboard will always be there except it'll be a terrible tablet to hold and use.
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Yep, it will be too heavy to comfortable hold in one hand; people are complaining that the iPad 2 is still a bit too heavy.
 
Once apple dumbs down Lion enough and forces developers to follow the light we will see it. Lion will become IOS and they will sell millions of them as next unicorn invention
 
They can't envision it it OP, but at some point there will be a combo laptop iPad. You guys think they will forever be separate even as technology becomes smaller and smaller? I mean hell, make the MBA touch screen and make the screen reverse/pivot from the center and fold down over the keyboard. People would buy that.

Have some vision geez.
 
Surprised no one's mentioned the Axiotron Modbook:

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Tarzanman said:
Gentlemen, this has already been done

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXFexk6k39M

http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/20/lenovo-thinkpad-tablet-and-keyboard-folio-case-hands-on-video/
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No. That's not at all what OP has suggested. He wants Windows or OSX on a tablet. That Lenovo is just another ASUS Transformer with a pen added and still stuck in the nether region of Android Honeycomb which means it's not anymore useful for business than the Transformer or the HTC Flyer. If I were a business I will go with a real laptop, not some half-baked product that doesn't provide the top-notch tablet experience and doesn't have any of Windows software.

For real life "productivity" business stuff, what you need has little to do with pen or keyboard, but business applications and Microsoft Office compatibility. Right now, the only way to get MS Office is to have Windows or OSX. I use PlayBook and it's utterly useless for business despite its file system and RIM's claim of it being a "professional tablet." It doesn't matter how they claim it's for business. They need to provide software, and that means Office.


miamialley said:
They can't envision it it OP, but at some point there will be a combo laptop iPad. ...
Have some vision geez.
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I already have a tablet laptop and it's terrible, and in my posting above I laid out exactly the reasons why it'll suck. No matter what you do, you get an iPad that's much heavier and much thicker, but not any more powerful when it's being used as a tablet.
 
I don't really understand why the OP is being blasted so much and why folks say this is the worst thread ever. If I could get basically an MBA in an iPad form factor with on-screen keyboard, I'd buy it in a heartbeat (and pay $999 for it). Seems to me this is where Apple is headed with Lion. A lot of Lion seems to be directed towards gesture control and with the other IOS like features (Launchpad, full screen apps, app store, etc) the keyboard seems to be the big differentiating feature. Why is this such a bad idea?
 
wolfpackfan said:
I don't really understand why the OP is being blasted so much and why folks say this is the worst thread ever. If I could get basically an MBA in an iPad form factor with on-screen keyboard, ... Why is this such a bad idea?
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Because that's not how it works.

The OP wants something as powerful as MacBook Air with a Intel CPU. Which means it'll have to contain all the usual notebook components AND the iPad stuff and the hinge mechanism in addition.

Thus you cannot get the iPad form factor. It'll be more like the MBA except that it'll be larger, uglier and more expensive because of the extra components.

The worse part is that when you're using this heavy tablet, it'll perform exactly like an iPad even though it's thicker and heavier because the MacBook Air part will be idle when it's in the tablet mode. It sounds promising until you actually begin to think what such device will actually demand.
 
You guys are probably the same people who said, "a phone that accesses the internet? Ha! Who would want to do that...hello it's a phone! Do you know how little and slow that'd be, it's not a laptop, lolz!"
 
miamialley said:
You guys are probably the same people who said, "a phone that accesses the internet? Ha! Who would want to do that...hello it's a phone! Do you know how little and slow that'd be, it's not a laptop, lolz!"
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No, we are the same people who said "Microsoft, you're crazy for keep trying to sell Windows Tablet PC idea for decade"
 
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