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Bah, the real bummer is that I am going to be purchasing a netbook before Defcon this year (which is in September). However, I doubt Apple will release it before hand.

Apple is going to charge out the ass for it, so I doubt I will be able to puchase it anytime after release.
 
my prediction:::::

Apple will introduce iMedia


A new 10 inch diagonal screen aka oversized iPod Touch


iTunes 9 will introduce eBooks, comics, daily newspapers. Buy a yearly subscription for your local hometown newspaper...then download it automatically over night while your device sits on your nightstand and then take it with you to work, school, train, airport. Newspapers will then have new features where if you are interested in a particular story, click on it and videos about the subject pop up such as from CNN, fox news, etc.

Apple will take on the media industry head-on.

just an edit: I know you can just go to CNN.com, Foxnews.com..etc...i am talking about LOCAL NEWS...you know..the kind that have your HS honor roll...HS sports scores...who got robbed down the street...etc

I've posted on other discussions, but I'm glad others are catching onto such a device. Itune App store and portables are Apples bread and butter, so a device that takes advantage of the app store that isn't a pocket pc is great. It will sell if its sleek like an iphone and is price between 500 and 1,000. Not only will it boost sales of ebooks, but it will help in selling of movies and tv shows.
 
The only problem with this theory is the obvious. Apple would not need to scan the books to get the text.

I can think of two reasons:

1) Apple doesn't yet want to talk to the publishers. If Apple started asking publishers for electronic copies of books it would be leaked within hours. Publishers can't keep secrets.

2) Publishers only have copies of recent books in electronic formats. Many old/ancient titles aren't available electronically. Yet.
 
Apple likes removing useful buttons (see 3rd gen shuffle), so I'm now convinced the upcoming 10" rumored device will be pure touch based with no keyboard.

I don't think it's that Apple doesn't like having buttons, I think they just wanted the Shuffle to be as small as it can be, so they had to remove the buttons.

Though I do think the Mac Tablet (if it actually exists) will not have a physical keyboard, it will almost definitely have an on/off button, a sleep mode switch, and buttons on it to control brightness, expose, dashboard, media playback, and volume (like on an Apple keyboard)
 
How do you hold a 10" screen and type on it at the same time with 2 hands?
You can't. This is a problem that arises with any n{et,ote}book, though.
However, holding it with one arm/hand and using the other for input probably works best with a touchscreen.
 
Prediction 2

This device will run probably on OS X but not on full OSX. It will be limited in functions. It won't have the Iphone OS but will be have some similiar limitations. It will be OS X with some limitations. Also it will be used mainly for Internet, movies and reading (books etc.).
 
I am feeling a lot of enthusiasm about this supposed Apple Netbook / Tablet, but...

I don't see this tablet/netbook launching with any convenient pricepoint. Consider the options:

$400 or $500ish - Risk competition with the iPod touch or iPhone, then people will get confused about features. Furthermore, I don't believe that touch screens (capacitive AND multi touch) are that cheap to produce, much less the custom electronics. Who knows if they'll put ARMs, P.A. Semi chips or x86 CPUs in there?

$800 or $900ish - Risk competition with the MacBook. If this is an underpowered tablet, or an "OS-X-lite" tablet, but people conclude they can do what they want, they'd choose this over the MacBook. Apple loses money on hardware sales, and they would not risk butchering their lowest end notebook.

The only pricepoint that exists then is between the MacBook and MacBook Pro. So around $1500-$1600ish. There's no way that a multitouch "netbook" or underpowered ultraportable is worth it at that price. The Vaio P isn't even really worth it at $900!

Furthermore, companies like ASUS are poised to release single-touch resistive (I know, crumbier than multitouch, but still nice enough) convertible netbooks for $500. I would MUCH rather have that than overpay for an underpowered unit.
 
I don't see this tablet/netbook launching with any convenient pricepoint. Consider the options:
How about $500~$700 with iPhone OS and a clear feature set differentiation from the iPod touch?

I would say the MacBook - MacBook Pro gap is far smaller than the iPod touch - MacBook gap. And the $1500~$1600 pricepoint is occupied by the high-end MacBook.
 
i'm not sure i see the point of a 10" device
if it's going to replace my macbook, then the minimym screen size is 13" (the 12" powerbooks felt cramped) and i've prefer it was 15" really.
if it is not going to replace my macbook, then i can't see what it has to offer that i don't already use my iphone for?

not that i'm not excited by the idea of an iTablet - i'd love to carry around something the weight of a macbook air but only half as thin because the screen is where the keyboard is

is it possible that these orders for 10" touchscreen are so that apple can replace the keyboard and trackpad on the laptops and do that thing with the textured touchpad that was in the patent article the other week?
 
Really.
I don't see this tablet/netbook launching with any convenient pricepoint.

Some people already suggested $699 price point, I agree with that but $749 and $799 might be other options. Also, possibly, there might be 2 models one being $100 more with more ram and memory.
 
How about $500~$700 with iPhone OS and a clear feature set differentiation from the iPod touch?

I would say the MacBook - MacBook Pro gap is far smaller than the iPod touch - MacBook gap. And the $1500~$1600 pricepoint is occupied by the high-end MacBook.

I guess I'm just having a hard time grasping the difference. If it's iPhone OS (no multitasking, no copy and paste, small resolution,) what's the point? A huge overhaul would have to happen with every developer and app to make the device utilize iPhone OS effectively.

That, and what feature set differentiation? Besides a camera, GPS and louder speakers (the iPhone features,) what else?

Sorry if it seems like I'm trolling, this just doesn't seem like a very Steve Jobsian move.
 

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imo it would be unwise for apple to go with a touch pad/netbook sure it would be cool but in reality would it be all that usefull? think about it how many of you would rather do your work on a giant fast iphone (that is what a touchnetbook would be) instead of a macbook


i'll go with the macbook any day
 
my prediction:::::

Apple will introduce iMedia


A new 10 inch diagonal screen aka oversized iPod Touch


iTunes 9 will introduce eBooks, comics, daily newspapers. Buy a yearly subscription for your local hometown newspaper...then download it automatically over night while your device sits on your nightstand and then take it with you to work, school, train, airport. Newspapers will then have new features where if you are interested in a particular story, click on it and videos about the subject pop up such as from CNN, fox news, etc.

Apple will take on the media industry head-on.

just an edit: I know you can just go to CNN.com, Foxnews.com..etc...i am talking about LOCAL NEWS...you know..the kind that have your HS honor roll...HS sports scores...who got robbed down the street...etc

Best post I've read yet.

Think about magazine subscriptions on this thing. This could possibly save some magazine companies...and a LOT of paper.

Really good thoughts.

:apple:
 
Very IMPORTANT!!!!

Someone please re-read the Reuters article where it says "newly developed" screens. Does this mean its a new type of screen? Perhaps OLED??
:confused::confused:
 
imo it would be unwise for apple to go with a touch pad/netbook sure it would be cool but in reality would it be all that usefull? think about it how many of you would rather do your work on a giant fast iphone (that is what a touchnetbook would be) instead of a macbook


i'll go with the macbook any day

Yep, just like how no one likes to take pictures or get on the internet with their phone. Just like how no one cares about carrying thousands of songs with them in their pocket.

Apple is like the Field of Dreams. "Build it and they will come." Seriously, Apple makes (most) things so good that you find reasons to use it. I can't imagine not having an iPod or iPhone...or Mac or AppleTV.

:apple:
 
If it's iPhone OS (no multitasking, no copy and paste, small resolution,) what's the point?
What if multitasking and copy and paste was added as an "extension" to iPhone OS for the mini-tablet/netbook? Plus the large display means higher resolution.

A huge overhaul would have to happen with every developer and app to make the device utilize iPhone OS effectively.
I'm thinking the device would have regular iPhone OS plus those extensions. So I'm assuming all iPhone OS apps would be able to run fine on the mini-tablet/netbook?

That, and what feature set differentiation? Besides a camera, GPS and louder speakers (the iPhone features,) what else?
Basically my feature set differentiation was software. iLife/iWork, eBook functionality, etc. There would likely be hardware changes besides the larger display like a Mini-DisplayPort.

Sorry if it seems like I'm trolling
You haven't seen real trolling yet. ;)
 
I agree. For most people, a 10" tablet is a toy. With no tactile feedback, no serious typing can be done.

I think that this rumored product's main purpose will be to drive AppStore purchases. Playing some of those games on the larger 10" screen would appeal to some people—not me though.


In my experience (some iPT use, lots of Nokia N800 and N810 use, some netbook use), what I need to do while out and about (on the bus, waiting for food at a restaurant, very light email responses, making notes on my RSS feeds, etc.) is fine with thumb typing, and would probably be fine with the right thumb keyboard (N800 and Apple lose here, because they obscure the app, but N810 worked because it doesn't ... a 10" iPT might work, if you can see the actual application in the "top" half of the screen).

For serious typing, though (which, in my experience, I only needed to do in places like meetings, where I have a table available), you're going to want a physical non-thumb keyboard. Physical because of the tactile feel of the keys (not just the press, but the feel of knowing you're actually ON a key, and not straddling keys), and non-thumb because many fingers is faster than 2 fingers (it really is). A netbook is one way to do that. Another way to do it is with a tablet and a 10"-12" keyboard ... like the Apple Bluetooth keyboard ... or like the brand new Apple USB keyboard that looks just like the Bluetooth keyboard. Prop the tablet up on a table, plug in the new USB keyboard, and type.

(be careful of your keyboard choice though ... the Apple Bluetooth is nice and stable, but I had a stow-away iGo bluetooth keyboard, and it had a tendency to want to rock a little when I hit keys at the extreme ends of the keyboard... that made it difficult to type full speed; it was also a 4 row model, so there was a lot of meta-key action if you wanted to type numbers; make sure whatever keyboard you get is stable and has 5 or 6 rows)
 
It would be cool if they made netbook with swivel touch screens. We used those at Circuit City when I worked there.

Apple could do one of those and it would be awesome...of course it would probably come with a stripped down version of OS X. Instead of the dock it would have widgets, a la iPhone OS. Of course, it would have to retail for less than $700 for it to be a success in more than just the fanboy market.
 
If it is a netbook I like the names MacBook mini or MacBook nano
If it is a tablet I like the names MacTab or MacBook touch

Edit: or Maclet
 
Bah, the real bummer is that I am going to be purchasing a netbook before Defcon this year (which is in September). However, I doubt Apple will release it before hand.

Apple is going to charge out the ass for it, so I doubt I will be able to puchase it anytime after release.

I feel your pain... I gave up on Apple entering this market, and bought an HP Mini Note 1110 (the "mobile internet"/Ubuntu-Linux version). Ubuntu is better than Windows, but it's not OS X.

I hope Apple hits a home run with this in September, but I probably wont be buying one until at least December, maybe not until this time next year. And that's assuming is actually a compelling device (as opposed to the iPhone, iPod Touch, and Mac Book Air, which, for me, all came up short ... and are the reason I haven't bought an Apple Product in 2.5 years).
 
If it is a netbook I like the names MacBook mini or MacBook nano
If it is a tablet I like the names MacTab or MacBook touch

If it's a netbook, "MacBook mini" and "MacBook nano" both work.

If it's a tablet, I like "Newton II".
 
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