Apple new file system

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  1. white7561 macrumors newbie

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    Can we use the new apple file system on latest beta?? And btw. I see its optimized for ssd or flash drive. But. If we format. ex:eek:ur hdd partition
    Lets say for time machine. to the new format. Is the performance gonna be improved? Thx

    And btw. Can anyone tell me how its gonna work. I see people saying if u copy it just gonna be like shortcut using metadata?
     
  2. leman macrumors 604

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    As you are a 'normal user', the new apple file system does not affect you in the slightest at this point. Its just an early developer preview and it will take a year until it actually becomes usable. Right now, its just for evaluation, you can't use it on your main system, you can't use it as a TM drive and you certainly should use it to store any data you don't want to lose. Also, optimised for SSD does not mean that its going to be horrible on HDDs. It simply means that APFS takes particular properties of SSDs into account which potentially allow higher performance and longer SSD life. It will still run very well on a HDD.

    As to performance etc., nobody can say anything, because nobody knows. Ask again in 12 months.
     
  3. white7561 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    But. Later it might be useful ? And can u tell me about metadata thing when copy ?
     
  4. gsmornot macrumors 68030

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    Later, starting in 2017, all systems will ship with APFS as the standard. This includes not only MAC but all devices. Its coming and when it does it will be an in place update of your current system. Apple posted the talk from the WWDC on Youtube. I don't have the link handy but a quick search should find it. Pretty good talk.
     
  5. t0mat0 macrumors 603

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    If you have a file, and you ask to copy it, currently, it'll make a duplicate copy. So if you made 99 copies, you'd have 100 files of the same thing.
    In most instances, APFS will when asked to make a copy of a file, create a copy, but it's effectively like a shortcut to the original file.
    If the original file changes, then it'd make a true copy, and you'd have a copy of the original, and a modified original file. Listen to the ATP podcasts last two weeks if you want more, or the free WWDC session - heck there's more on macrumors etc

    https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2016/701/
    http://appleinsider.com/articles/16...ystem-detailed-at-wwdc-to-replace-hfs-in-2017

    We're a year off the general public using APFS - heck it's not bootable yet for developers.
     
  6. Richdmoore macrumors 65816

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    The reading I have done sounds interesting, but like you said unless someone is a hardcore user, it is better off to wait until it is officially released for general use. Compatibility might be an issue as well, as nothing other than sierra will be able to read the drive yet, making it a poor choice for moving data between computers.

    Hopefully support for Windows 7/8/10 (at least read only) and time capsule/airport extreme support will come with one the beta/point releases of Sierra.
     
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  8. maflynn Moderator

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    I'd not be to quick to install a beta filesystem. Its one of those things that you really want to rely on a rock solid implementation. I look forward to what Apple will do with the new file system, but I'm also content to wait. I'm in no rush to see it on my computer.
     
  9. Ebenezum macrumors 6502a

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    I agree with maflynn, using beta filesystem isn't a smart idea. Personally I'm going to wait 2-3 years after APFS is released before I start using it just to be on the safe side...
     

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