Apple News appears to be opt-out not opt-in

Discussion in 'iOS 9' started by Rogifan, Jun 16, 2015.

  1. Rogifan macrumors P6

    Rogifan

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    Read the blog post below for the terms and agreements to be included in Apple News. It appears this is opt-out not opt-in. Just reading through some of the bullet points...how anyone at Apple could ever have approved it is beyond me.

    https://www.mikeash.com/pyblog/i-do-not-agree-to-your-terms.html

     
  2. gsmornot macrumors 68030

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    I had to read this a second time.

    Apple is saying they will use your RSS feed unless you say no. Is that typical?
     
  3. LordQ macrumors 68040

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    Still, three countries at launch mega sucks, I'll stick with Flipboard.
     
  4. soy macrumors member

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    It's an RSS reader, if you provide an RSS feed you don't usually even get to choose to opt out of getting published in an individual reader.

    A number of these apps are ad supported, so yes, it's normal for ads to appear next to the content.

    At least they have the option to opt out here.
     
  5. Rogifan thread starter macrumors P6

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    Yes this was sent to content creators. But the way it's worded sounds sleazy. And I don't get the part about placing ads next to someone's content. I definitely won't be using this app if there are ads plastered all over the place.
     
  6. Rogifan thread starter macrumors P6

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    Hmm...when Apple was demoing this on stage I don't remember seeing a bunch of ads next to the content. And I don't remember the presenter saying the News app was ad supported.
     
  7. soy macrumors member

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    I remember reading somewhere that content creators can either keep including their own ads and keep all revenue, or get iAds and get the usual 70/30 revenue split.

    They didn't include ads in the demo to make it look better. I feel like usually when they demo Safari they run an ad blocker as well so everything looks cleaner.

    Edit: see apple.com/safari:

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    same website when loaded in actual safari:

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  8. VSMacOne macrumors 601

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    I'm sure it will have some sort of iAds built in to the articles. The real difference will be HOW they make it look.
     
  9. kmj2318 macrumors 68000

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    I agree that this feels odd, but really, do people want the alternative? Do they want their content used without even being notified and not even given the option to opt-out? Apple's being transparent here.

    It sounds like that's exactly what he wants. This "stunt" Apple is pulling is telling people exactly how they will use their feeds and giving people a way to opt out. Do the other aggregators do that?
     
  10. Rogifan thread starter macrumors P6

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    From the blog post it seems like he's upset that Apple is dictating terms but the default is assuming you agree unless you say otherwise when really shouldn't it be the other way around? Otherwise don't send an email with specific terms, just use the RSS feed however the law allows.

     
  11. lchlch macrumors 6502a

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    1. If a website has a RSS feed, than its safe to assume that they want to distribute that content.
    2. Isn't Google doing the same thing with search results. Eg you can op-out from being indexed; Permission is not needed for your website to be added into their search results.
     
  12. MinEderPlayz macrumors 6502a

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    Also, services like feedly access each and every RSS agreed they want just like Apple does..
     
  13. Menel macrumors 603

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    I find it /mildlyinteresting when corporations use other brands, within their brands.
    Someone high up at Apple likes the Outside publication or feels it aligns with their audience. They probably had a contract with Outside to use their brand, and to setup tweak the apperance. E.g. instead of their normal 3rd party ads (zippo) they had an internal subscribe ad.

    So it did get me to clickind around. Outside probably counted on this... Noted that, Outside's Best Town of the year, http://www.outsideonline.com/1972941/best-towns-2015, Chattanooga has no Apple store.
     
  14. Shirasaki macrumors 603

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    Apple is good at hiding something behind the scene, rendering it looks better than we may know on real product.
    Same on their continuity demo, and now this time, proactive notification demo. Maybe, news, Apple music.
     
  15. marvz macrumors 6502a

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    That's hilarious.
    If you put a public RSS feed on your website everyone and every RSS reader can access it. It's just the way it works. They can be happy that Apple is informing them and that they are in Apple's News app.
     

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