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No way. I used to use Spotify a lot for free but now I just mp3juices.com download to MusiCloud and bang no ads and it’s free

There'll always be a way for cheapskates to get something they value without paying anything for it. This may come as a shock but people in general want to pay for things so that the people that create things they value, can continue creating those things.
 
I read the entire first page of comments on this article and only one post out of 25 was positive about Apple News+. While it’s a small sample size, for sure, if the reception of the general population to Apple News+ is anything remotely like the first page of comments, Apple News+ is going to have a large uphill battle ahead of it.
 
I read the entire first page of comments on this article and only one post out of 25 was positive about Apple News+. While it’s a small sample size, for sure, if the reception of the general population to Apple News+ is anything remotely like the first page of comments, Apple News+ is going to have a large uphill battle ahead of it.

This is MacRumors. Are you new here?* :p


*That's rhetorical. I can see your join date. You should know by now that MacRumors forums is an infested cesspool of whiners, complainers, and negative Nancys with an unbroken record for being proven wrong about their negative, often catastrophic predictions... every time.
 
There'll always be a way for cheapskates to get something they value without paying anything for it. This may come as a shock but people in general want to pay for things so that the people that create things they value, can continue creating those things.
Shhhhhhh. Shhhhhh. Mate, I think I see an Apple Music subscriber out in the wild. Shhhhhhhh. You might spook it with knowledge. Ah shoot. There it goes. Anyway I thought this post was about Apple Music not Apple news. If you thought this was bad now apples trying to get money for news. The only time I read those magazines that cost $20 for 60 prices of paper is when I’m in the line at the grocery store. Nothings in there we don’t already know.
 
No!
Firstly, reading a magazine on an iPhone is not really a nice experience - nice with the iPad Pro BUT
1. I prefer real print for magazines that I love
2. Here in the UK there is always amazing deals on subscribing for 1 year for your favourite magazine PLUS you get free expensive gifts with them - some examples for me: GQ Magazine was £12 for 1 year and it came with American Crew Hair Wax that I buy which is £14. Again Harpers Bizarre - £30 for the year with a free ESPA face serum which I buy at £50 for free etc. Plus these come with free iOS access to them.

Apple News+ is worth £1.99 a month but for me, not really much more.
 
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I read the entire first page of comments on this article and only one post out of 25 was positive about Apple News+. While it’s a small sample size, for sure, if the reception of the general population to Apple News+ is anything remotely like the first page of comments, Apple News+ is going to have a large uphill battle ahead of it.
Be assured the general reaction will be nothing at all like you’ll read here at MR forums.

But I do think it’s an uphill battle, especially in the US. Too many here are not interested in education or learning, and are even proud of their ignorance. There is a pretty strong undercurrent of anti-intellectual, anti-science and anti-expertise rhetoric in the toxic blogosphere here.

Maybe it’s just a reaction to the increasingly complex technology we’re encountering in daily life, and I suppose the backlash is not unexpected, or surprising.
 
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I would not pay to read the news and there would have to be at least 4 magazines that would read on a monthly basis to be worthwhile for me to subscribe. Based on what have been said, I am hesitant to subscribe for the free trial.
 
I'm going to cancel mine at the end of the trial. Design isn't intuitive to me. Why can't I make "playlist" of the magazines I like and always have them updated. I have to manually search each magazine and download it?
This is a very good point. Pick and choose what you want and add any other new magazine that is added in the future.
 
Are you talking about the ads in magazines? That's a part of the content. Magazine ads are typically far higher quality than what you find online on websites. With excellent photography and graphic design, creative copy and overall a focus on the type of reader for that magazine, they're an artwork in of themselves.

There aren't any ads that I've seen in articles, even from newspapers like The Star whose website is littered with them but have zero ads in the News app. As far as I can tell, Apple News is entirely free of advertising, other than in magazines where you'd expect (and my case, want) them. The absence of banner ads and "sponsored stories" is alone worth the subscription.

Video ads in the middle of articles. I'd post a screenshot but I just canceled the service.
 
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Shhhhhhh. Shhhhhh. Mate, I think I see an Apple Music subscriber out in the wild. Shhhhhhhh. You might spook it with knowledge. Ah shoot. There it goes. Anyway I thought this post was about Apple Music not Apple news. If you thought this was bad now apples trying to get money for news. The only time I read those magazines that cost $20 for 60 prices of paper is when I’m in the line at the grocery store. Nothings in there we don’t already know.
The thread is about Apple News+, which may or may not be successful. But Apple Music is a definitely a success.

You don’t pay for music, even though you value it, so you’re not contributing to the artists who create it. Congrats on figuring out a way to steal it.

You don’t pay for magazines because you already know everything in them... ok sure. At least reading them while you’re in line at the grocery store isn’t stealing.
 
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My wife and I initially liked it but we find we don't spend enough time reading it as much as we should to make use of what I consider to be worth $9.99/mo.

Video ads in the middle of articles. I'd post a screenshot but I just canceled the service.

This was disappointing. Massive screen sized video ads... Sure advertisement is greatly reduced but damn, lol.


For a $9.99 service, it really needs to be better. Let me select what I want, remember where I was reading and sync it to all my devices. I shouldn't have to scroll to find what I want. How hard is that?! Also, I'm getting way too many white loading symbol pages. I realize it is in its infancy, but the concept isn't new.
 
For a lot of people (myself included) the News + app isn't worth it. But for SOME people it's a GREAT deal.

A subscription to the LA times regular newspaper that's delivered to your door every day (and printed on paper) costs $108/month. So getting it along with all the other stuff in AN+ for $9.99 is a bargain and a half.
 
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I subscribed to Texture for over a year on my 12.9 ipad, but was simply overwhelmed with the information coming in and the amount of room it ate up on my iPad. So I finally cancelled and never missed it.

It's one of those things you think you'll use when on a long plane ride, on a commute or laying in bed. The reality for me was there was always something more interesting to do than shuffle through 1/3 of a magazine full of advertisements for things that didn't vaguely interest me.

The reason I kept it so long is because I had favorited / saved some articles about travel I thought I would eventually use. Of course I lost all those when I cancelled my subscription. Meh.

When Apple absconded with Texture (shame on them) I happily re-subscribed. I wrongly assumed they would produce something even more professional and user friendly - remember Apple is 'magical'... Instead I got a fart in a bag.

The UI is so clumsy I can't use it on my Mac at all.

  • No way that I can see to pick a list of 30 fave magazines and have them appear on my list (they keep disappearing).
  • If I view a magazine once now all of a sudden it's in my list forever
  • No back magazines
  • No transparency if a mag has been downloaded, is downloaded etc
  • No way to delete a magazine I read!!!!! Holy hell!!
  • So small (pages) on my Mac I can't read anything - and no clear way to enlarge the page (I guess this is the PDF view)
  • No easy way to subscribe / unsubscribe from my magazines
  • Wasn't able to find a way to save articles like Texture
  • Entire News app sucks ass - I don't want to see 'evening digest' or other stuff but I can't kill it
  • 'Feed unavailable' notices when i want to view a magazine
  • WTF - making my magazines appear in a horizontal scroll at the top while filling up the homepage of News+ with crap I don't subscribe to or don't care to see.. If they filled it up with articles from MY SUBSCRIPTIONS that might make kind of sense... But from other magazines they're touting? Really Apple? FU.
  • I want to hit 'Apple+' and see all my frigging mags just like Texture.. How hard is this to do? Leave it to Apple to create another app as bad (or worse) than iTunes.. I love Apple (Jobs era), love their hardware - but their software guys are seriously dumb.
I'll give it another 2 months then cancel if they can't get their **** together.
 
When my New Yorker subscription runs out, it might be worth a try. But I just signed up for two years of that, so wake me in 2021.

I read that The New Yorker is not cover to cover like the electronic subscription. Did you check if News+ has it? (I haven't trialed it yet).
 
NO, it's NOT !

I expect the price to go down by 50% to $4.99/month by the end of the year.

At that point, it could take off, but NOT before.

That will never happen. $10 is not a lot of money to most people, and whether it's $5, $10, or even $50, it won't even move the needle relative to Apple's total revenues
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Just google the title to every story, and POOF, all of the stories for free.

No, they're not.
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I read the entire first page of comments on this article and only one post out of 25 was positive about Apple News+. While it’s a small sample size, for sure, if the reception of the general population to Apple News+ is anything remotely like the first page of comments, Apple News+ is going to have a large uphill battle ahead of it.

Apple News+ is likely to end up like iBooks, Ping, and MobileMe.
 
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I find this a difficult question to answer. I've always loved magazines but these days (unless I'm flying somewhere) I find so little time to read more than a couple per month. It wouldn't be worth subscribing to a bunch of them individually. So I like the value proposition of being able to pay one monthly fee to peruse a selection of magazines I enjoy.

On the other hand, I want magazines to do well. Journalism is necessary for our democracy. I respect the amount of work that goes into publishing them and recognize their value. I'm actually disheartened by so many commenters here who seem militant in their determination to consume something of value for free. I wonder how magazines can make it with this model.

With that said, being absolved of the burden of having to print and ship a pile of paper to subscribers each month has to be a net positive for magazines, at the same time that I don't think most magazines have really taken advantage of how the technology of, say, the iPad can enhance the experience for their readers. They probably don't have or want to invest the money. As a News+ subscriber I might return to magazines I've not thought about in a while, or I might discover new ones. And I'll be looking at advertising in those magazines, which enhances revenue for those publishers (especially if the ads are coded as such that I can tap an ad and be taken to the advertiser's website).

But what do I do now about magazines like Dwell and New York that I've subscribed to for more than a decade? If I have access to them on News+ it doesn't make much sense for me to be paying for a separate subscription. So that subscription revenue will be downgraded to a smaller stream for them.

I also wonder if the subscription model itself is outdated. I've always hoped that someone could figure out a micro-payment system that would charge readers for what they consume, as opposed to paying for a subscription to publications that I might not even look at certain months. I think newspapers like the NY Times need to exist and I want to support them. But if I only have time to read a couple articles a day I don't feel as though I'm getting my money's worth for a full subscription. You know?

Imagine if gas stations charged us a monthly fee instead by usage by the gallon. A great deal if you drive a lot. But if you only fill up occasionally then you're paying for a lot of value you're not receiving.


I've been hearing about micro-payments for a while now but there doesn't seem to be a lot of interest. Much of the internet would be better if we paid instead of being the product.
 
Apple should have bought Netflix five years ago if they wanted to go down this path. They missed the opportunity, and as everyone is saying they’re subscription-ed out! As someone else said Apple fails with services except music. Sad that it took them so long to come up with Apple Music. They have had plenty of cash and all they really have ever spent money on is Beats. Think what they could have been if they had bought Netflix, Spotify, and a few other app development companies along the way. AppleTV+ looks better, but still is so far behind; Apple better finally unveil Jobs’s TV idea that was going to revolutionize our viewing habits. The TV app does nicely bring together most of the stuff I watch.

They need some Millennials in their executive teams and upper management for the future. Sad to see this team progress without Forstall to save their asses! And someone will undoubtedly respond with “so we could have more skeuomorphic interfaces.” But no he really was groomed to be the next Jobs innovator type.

I also think it would be smart to take manufacturing to the free world. As it is with WalMart, and all of the other Chinese built crap, the free world has financed the greatest military and most massive an unmovable force in China’s government, military and economy. I would spend $1500 on iPhones built in the Free World and an extra $500 on Macs built in the free world. And by that I just mean capitalism, free enterprise and tariff the crap out of any country that tariffs other countries goods. Most of China’s and especially Taiwan, Hong Kong etc people think China’s an unstoppable force and fear it. Why the heck doesn’t anyone else get what we have done and just stop the madness?

I would truly like to see Apple’s board send Cook sailing with a golden parachute and bring back Scotty!
 
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$10 a month is nothing. That's a single day of lunch. I live in LA and it's nice to get the LA Times as part of it and WSJ has some good articles too.

I read off of it every day. Worth it for sure.

I have four people in my family, so it is easily worth it. I read enough stories to make it worth it by myself. I expect that as more magazines convert to Apple News Format, it will get even better.
 
Compared to Texture this beyond aggravating. I can’t search for the title of a magazine. I see only options to browse different categories.

I’m appalled. A multi-billion dollar company can’t be bothered to invest a pittance in UX research for a major service offering?

“Thou shalt know them by their fruits.” Apple’s fruit tastes like “Why should we care anymore?”
 
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