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I'm at a complete loss to why Apple would provide this app for their iOS platform, much like Health, Podcasts, iTunes U. Who uses these apps? They should provide apps only everyone would use. A news aggregator like Google News/Drudge Report but with an Apple UI design isn't what a computer needs. It isn't something that helps to define the iOS platform experience and expectations. News app? Seriously? As if people would say this: "Hmm, let me check the weather. Oh, it's sunny all day. Okay, now let me check the news on the News app."

I love Apple News. I've pretty much completely replaced visiting CNN's website with using it.

I'd love to be able to pay ~2 cents for articles I already get in exchange for no ads... maybe even ~10 cents to be able to access articles that are normally behind paywalls.
 
What do you propose?

How about this, from within the above story: "The report, citing multiple unnamed publishers, claims Apple also plans to enable micropayment options so people can access articles "for cents at a time," but no specific details were provided."

Content providers need to be paid one way or another.

I don't disagree and the "micro-payments" might be one approach. I honestly don't know what would work, I just know I don't like ads. One idea I saw above was for a subscription model. I'd be down with that if the price is right. My preference would really be for something that is "free at the point of use."
 
You do understand that the point of advertising is to "grab your attention." Advertisers despise the low key, hidden, advertising because, in their minds, no one sees it and they don't get as much money out of it. They want the over the top, in your face, auto-playing, cannot avoid advertising because that gets them the most money. They really don't care about what you want.
Yup. I understand completely. What advertisers want has nothing to do with my dislike of certain types of ads. Those are two tangential topics. I was only discussing the latter. Fortunately, I can have a certain amount of control over that. I whitelist some of the sites that I frequent. The sites that serve unobtrusive ads get whitelisted. The sites that serve invasive ads either remain under my adblocker or just don't get visited.
 
I'm at a complete loss to why Apple would provide this app for their iOS platform, much like Health, Podcasts, iTunes U. Who uses these apps? They should provide apps only everyone would use. A news aggregator like Google News/Drudge Report but with an Apple UI design isn't what a computer needs. It isn't something that helps to define the iOS platform experience and expectations. News app? Seriously? As if people would say this: "Hmm, let me check the weather. Oh, it's sunny all day. Okay, now let me check the news on the News app."

Are you serious with this? Specifically... Health? An incredible application/ecosystem and fully private + I own all of my own data in that repository. You'd be surprised how many use Health and the Healthkit ecosystem.
 
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Lately I have been getting Zeus ads that encourage me to call a number to get rid of the spit. I have not experienced any since I stopped reading Yahoo News articles. Hmmm........

Another problem is the ad banners can take up half of the window, necessitating scrolling excessively to see content.
 
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Forgive my ignorance, but isn't Apple News just an RSS feed aggregator? How do publications monetise RSS in any other platform? Also I'd suggest they fix the lock screen widget before they try to make money out of it. When I see "The Sun" rear it's ugly head in the uneditable 'top stories' I feel sick. Ended up disabling it.
 
I don't disagree and the "micro-payments" might be one approach. I honestly don't know what would work, I just know I don't like ads. One idea I saw above was for a subscription model. I'd be down with that if the price is right. My preference would really be for something that is "free at the point of use."
I would be happy with a system where one gives Apple a small block of money (say $5-$10, that you refill as the need arises), and then they dole out micropayments to sites that have their content in Apple's News app, as you read articles. Maybe with a "the following article will cost 1 cent" dialog in front of the articles, and a facility for whitelisting sites you've pre-approved so they automatically deduct without the prompt.

(Google seems to have something similar already - more like a pay-for-content wallet that websites can make use of - but I'm not keen on further increasing the amount of Google tracking of me. Apple I trust more for this kind of thing - they've made clear by their actions that their model is, "we charge a lot up front for things rather than selling you".)

And if your site's content (inside the News app) wants the micro-payment and then delivers the kind of content frequently seen under click-baity headlines (little or no new info, poorly written, mostly quotes from / links to the content of other sites), then I'll probably drop that site. Hmm, maybe a way to blacklist such sites, so they no longer show up in your feed - maybe if a site gets blacklisted by a high enough percentage of people who have read its articles, Apple could look at the site to see if it really is super click-baity, and if so, stop showing it to people who haven't specifically requested that site - done as, or at least including, a manual step in order to keep people from running DoS campaigns against sources they simply don't like - and no refund for the micro-transaction (after all, it was a penny or thereabouts, maybe a nickel or dime), to avoid people just reading every article they want and then getting refunds.

But this could be a frictionless way to read good quality ad-free content, with the authors/sites getting reimbursed - and it would tend towards rewarding authors/sites for producing good quality content*. I'd pay for that.

*: (rather than going the poor-article-divided-onto-seven-pages-with-clickbait-headline-and-lots-of-ads route)
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Not an Apple news fans... but I think there's a little too much advertising since iAd1 - some sites are ruined by videos, full screen ads, fake close boxes that open up new windows, etc, etc... Web browsing on an iPad was once a joy, now it really stinks. can't wait for iAd2 to force me back to a laptop.
Apple's iAd service shut down over a year ago. The ads you're complaining about on your iPad aren't from iAd. And, Apple added a Content Blocker feature into Safari on iOS quite some time ago. You can install and run a variety of third-party content blockers through this mechanism, some of which will block all those ads. You have the power to make web browsing on your iPad a joy again.
 
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"But fortunately that could change soon"

Not fortunately to any of us who use the service.
Presumably, Apple News users get a choice of whether they want to see an article with ads, without ads (by agreeing to the micropayment) or not at all. Seems like a win-win for everybody.
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I dislike ads as much as anyone but understand that content creators need to get paid. Advertising seems to be the only viable revenue stream since the general public seems to have an aversion to paying for anything internet related...
Is it really clear that the general public has an aversion to paying anything internet related - or is it that they haven't been offered the right terms yet?

I, for one, would gladly make a micro payment for the ability to read a worthwhile article - the problem I've had so far is that nobody's offered that! Mostly, publishers have been offering subscriptions and I'm not going to pay the NYT, Wall Street Journal, or Times magazine a monthly fee just to read the one or two articles of theirs I'm interested in.

Apple News is really a natural to try out micro payments - the company already has my credit card, so they could make this as simple as adding a "buy" button next to a summary/preview of the article.
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I use the iOS News app every day. Outside of Safari and Mail, it's my most used app on my iPhone and iPad. It's flexible and works extremely well. But then, I'm into news. As are many other people.

Have you tried something like Feedly? I wanted to like Apple News, but - like you - I'm into news - and found Apple News to graphics-heavy. With Feedly, I can easily scan 6-7 headlines w. article summary at once (double that if I forego the summary). Makes for very rapid discovery/consumption of constant news (I easily scan a couple thousand headlines in a day on my iPhone 6).
 
Paying for news? I would if I could! Sadly News and Apple Pay is years away here in Norway.
 
I was scrolling through the news app last night and saw the “adopt a dog” ad council slot in all the various dimensions available about 20 times. I personally don’t use the News app daily, but it’s always felt like a polished, premium experience. I suspect these ads will change that experience fast.
 
I'm at a complete loss to why Apple would provide this app for their iOS platform, much like Health, Podcasts, iTunes U. Who uses these apps? They should provide apps only everyone would use. A news aggregator like Google News/Drudge Report but with an Apple UI design isn't what a computer needs. It isn't something that helps to define the iOS platform experience and expectations. News app? Seriously? As if people would say this: "Hmm, let me check the weather. Oh, it's sunny all day. Okay, now let me check the news on the News app."

The default iOS apps are overwhelmingly the most used apps of their kind.
 
Question for those of you who use the News app: do you find it to be biased in any way, either politically, or geopolitically (with regard to showing only mainstream Westernized content)?

There are a few news sources, from all over the planet, that I read each day to try capturing a more wholistic picture of world events. Is this possible with Apple's News app? Thoughts?
 
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Didn't really care much about Apple News until I tried it on my 10.5 iPad. Ended up loving it and using it as my main news source. Main reason being it's the smoothest app they have and is the best use of their current design. Too bad they ruined it with iOS 11 though. Seriously, why use all that space for a list in the Explore section? Was better with the spread out tiles.

Yeah same with google news new format. i have some 4k+ display 27" across and all i get to see is the first 4 words of each article??!! Fashion seems to win the content format wars over actual content. At some point it is better just picking up an old-school newspaper. In any case Apple news is still way better then Google News and I really hope they bring it to a website or at the very least an app in macOs.
 
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Paying for news? I would if I could! Sadly News and Apple Pay is years away here in Norway.
Can't do anything about news not being available in Norway, but the actual act of making these micro-payments would not need to involve Apple Pay at all. I can imagine whereby Apple will just charge whatever credit card you have on file with them - once a month? - with the total charges you've racked up reading news. They already do something similar with iCloud storage and Apple Music.
 
I tried out Apple News, I just couldn't find anything I liked... all the articles written have a Marxist bias.

I don't disagree, but that's not [entirely] Apple's or the News app's fault.

There's hardly any objective/unbiased news sources available anymore. Most "news" is now written to either enrage/incite or entertain. And most "news" is controlled by an extremely liberal/socialist media.

Pure news (information that doesn't insinuate, assume, or outright pontificate) doesn't exist anymore ([edit] maybe it never did, but it's definitely gotten worse), and it makes me sad.

[edit] In the News app I used to subscribe to both Daring Fireball and ARS Technica. Two sources that used to be primarily technology-focused. But ever since the election most of the articles from both of those sites have been either laced with vitriolic liberal political rhetoric or just completely off-topic from technology. Had to stop reading any article from either.
 
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I don't disagree, but that's not [entirely] Apple's or the News app's fault.

There's hardly any objective/unbiased news sources available anymore. Most "news" is now written to either enrage/incite or entertain. And most "news" is controlled by an extremely liberal/socialist media.

Pure news (information that doesn't insinuate, assume, or outright pontificate) doesn't exist anymore, and it makes me sad.
Arguably, it never existed in the first place - at least not in the US, where it has always been influenced by money (owners, advertisers, etc.)
 
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Arguably, it never existed in the first place - at least not in the US, where it has always been influenced by money (owners, advertisers, etc.)

True, and I edited my original post to reflect that sentiment, presumably after you'd quoted it.

I do think it's gotten worse though.
 
This is excellent news. There simply aren't enough ways to embed obnoxious advertising in every facet of our lives.
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What do you propose?

How about this, from within the above story: "The report, citing multiple unnamed publishers, claims Apple also plans to enable micropayment options so people can access articles "for cents at a time," but no specific details were provided."

Content providers need to be paid one way or another.

A subscription model. Pay for the content that you want. I don't see micropayments flying because of the costs of processing unless the can arrange some batch mechanism.
 
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