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Apr 12, 2001

The Apple News, Voice Memos, Home and Stocks apps on the Mac will be getting major updates and new designs to make them more Mac-like, Apple's software chief Craig Federighi told CNET in an interview.

News, Voice Memos, Home, and Stocks were all apps that were ported over to the Mac in 2018's macOS Mojave as part of the precursor to Project Catalyst, Apple's newly announced feature designed to let iOS developers easily adapt their apps for the Mac.


Since their Mac launch, the four apps have mirrored the style of an iOS app, offering little more in terms of design and functionality. Now that Project Catalyst has launched, though, Apple plans to revisit these early Mac app ports.

Federighi says that because the underlying technology has improved over the course of the last year, the apps will be "automatically" upgraded thanks to Project Catalyst's more unified, native Mac framework. Apple also plans to make additional improvements on top of that to create a Mac experience.
"We've looked at the design and features of some of those apps and said we can make this a bit more of a Mac experience through changes that are independent of the use of Catalyst, but are just design team decisions," Federighi said. "When I read some of the initial reviews of those apps, people were saying, 'Obviously this technology is causing them to do things that don't feel Mac-like.' Honestly, 90% of those were just decisions that designers made ... People took that as 'this feels iOS-y' and therefore they thought it was a technology thing. Actually, it was a designer preference. So part of [the upgrade] is we said we've got to co-evolve with our user base around the aesthetics of the Mac experience. And so we made some adjustments to the apps."
Federighi also explained that the iOS-like feel to the apps in macOS Mojave was more of a design decision than a result of porting them over to the Mac, but given complaints, Apple made an effort to "co-evolve" with the Mac user base to design a more Mac-like experience in macOS Catalina.

The new Apple News, Voice Memos, Home, and Stocks apps aren't in the macOS Catalina beta at the current time, but Federighi said we can expect to see them when the public beta launches. "Wait for the public beta," Federighi told CNET. "We're still tuning everything up. That's where it gets really good."

Apple has said that iOS 13, macOS Catalina, and tvOS 13 betas will launch at some point in July, which is just two weeks away.

Article Link: Apple News, Voice Memos, Home and Stocks Mac Apps to Get Major Updates to Make Them More Mac-Like
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macrumors 6502a
Sep 22, 2009
United States
I sure hope they mean it, and that they actually know what the heck they are doing this time around. Starting with a few Apps is better than not doing it at all. It's about time we get consistency and visibility back into the OS and Apps (both Mac and iOS) rather than the current "Everything grey all the time because little Jony likes not being able to see things. He thinks that means it is art!" UI crap we have today:

"Little Jony at age 17, discovering blank-canvas-art for the first time. While the world didn't know it at the time, this pivotal moment would one-day spell the end of Apple device usability."


(Unfortunately, I bet all they do is make the apps look more "Current MacOS" rather than actually trying to fix things.)
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macrumors 68000
Jul 6, 2012
Nice to see this. They do appear to listen on alot of things - some faster (these apps) than others (laptop keyboards), but they seem to eventually get there.
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macrumors 601
Feb 12, 2010
Somehow they understood they should take the Mac audience and it's feedback serious.
I feel like people could really just learn to accept the W. Apple is doing a lot for its users in this update. Seems to be worthy of praise rather than derision.

Photos really needs a major update. But hey, I guess Apple is not in the picture.
It's getting one though...


macrumors 6502a
Oct 4, 2003
I hope Apple continues to discover that their users are not so very stupid or naive. :rolleyes:

The biggest problem I have with the industry-wide trend toward software and hardware lock-in (including the removal of useful software features & the fight against right-to-repair laws) is that it will continue to lead to learned helplessness.

Instead of being able to solve problems on your own, you'll be expected to take it to an "expert" for repairs; instead of providing open-ended tools for creating, you'll be expected to confine your work to the fit within the narrow avenues a few engineers decide are worthy of inclusion.

And you might say, "Whatever, man. It's not that big of a deal. It's only consumer electronics. Get with the program." To which I would reply that if you don't think – on at least some level – our use of technology does not influence our social perspective, to say nothing of how it can literally rewire our brains, than you're probably the one who needs to re-examine your perspectives.

There's a lot more at stake here than pixels on a screen. ;)

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macrumors 68000
Feb 12, 2006
Photos really needs a major update. But hey, I guess Apple is not in the picture.
But photo editing got a major update, as part of Catalina, as did photo organisation and video now has many of the same editing tools—it’s stupendous! To say Photos needs a major update (implying it didn’t get one) is disingenuous.

I don’t know what happened Apple in the last 18 months, but somewhere along the way they figured out how to put a fire under every platform. Frankly, it’s difficult to believe how may things Apple has been addressed at WWDC. They are like a different company, software wise. Could it be, I wonder, the reorganisation and new-to-them adjoining department layout at their new headquarters?
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Feb 23, 2017
Nice to see this. They do appear to listen on alot of things - some faster (these apps) than others (laptop keyboards), but they seem to eventually get there.
If they didn't listen at all, all the laptops would still have the 1st gen butterfly keyboards.
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macrumors 68000
Apr 10, 2019
Nice to see this. They do appear to listen on alot of things - some faster (these apps) than others (laptop keyboards), but they seem to eventually get there.

Oh NO, you mentioned the laptop keyboards!!

We'll now get several posts saying that we're "whining" (the apologists' favorite word) about it.

But seriously, I'm excited about the few things I've seen Apple talk about lately, since WWDC.

We'll see how it all pans out in the end.
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