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I'm coming at you right now 😛
iOS 9 is not laggy. My iPhone 6 and iPad Air 2 work better than when they were new. 😎
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Apple No Longer Signing iOS 8.4.1 and iOS 9
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iOS 9 is not laggy. My iPhone 6 and iPad Air 2 work better than when they were new. 😎
Yep. I just barely got in under the wire in terms of downgrading a few days ago.
I usually upgrade all my Apple software the day it comes out. iOS 9 was the first time since the first iPhone that I completely regretted staying current.
iOS 9 made my iPhone 6 annoying: infuriating lag in every app, complete lockup at times, and the GPS location went AWOL. The Maps app, which I actually used quite a bit, became useless. Since I didn't have a backup on iOS 8, I had to set up my iPhone as new and enter an assload of passwords, among other setup tasks I hadn't had to worry about in years. Even with all that effort - downgrading was totally worth it. Sorry to see Apple has cut that off.
Frosties
macrumors 65816
All iOS software have in app store requirements and if it is not supported then you can't install. So no it's not a problem at all just smoke whining and Apple and developers not thinking at all.
The user's best interests should come first. They pay for the whole thing: the phones (in turn, the platform) and the apps.
You can decide as a dev what you want to support, but it isn't right for someone to be stuck with an expensive device that is not working right.
oldmacs
macrumors 603
Same with my iPad 2 and iPhone 5. I updated the majority of devices in my household to 8.4.1 while I could. Fairly hilarious as I remember doing the same last year with 7.1.2 (with devices in my household) because of how bad iOS 8 was at the beginning.
oldmacs
macrumors 603
Exactly. Apple supports OS X 3 versions back (The current version, the one before and the one before that), in that they push out safari, iTunes and security updates. They could do the same for iOS - Just make it an option. At the very least let people choose from a relatively hidden menu, so nobody accidentally downgrades.
User should be able to downgrade to the OS version that was current when his device was released. iPad 3 on iOS 9 is a joke. I would buy Android, if iPad 3 worked like it's now. It was insanely fast on iOS 6 and I was foolish enough to update it. Now I can't downgrade and I have worst experience with this tablet.
sracer
macrumors G4
This hypothetical often arises when an older version of iOS is no longer signed.
There are numerous examples of people stating a desire to downgrade. I have yet to see an example where people are given an option and complain about having the option.
AFEPPL
macrumors 68030
What support? - Apple doesn't support anything..
Tell me the last time someone called Apple to sort anything?
If they do it would be the same answer regardless of what iOS they are sat on, Have you applied all the updates? have you restarted your device? thats the full extent of Apples support.
If another company - lets say MS had this approach all hell would break loose about how this is not acceptable.
It's BS frankly. Apple should take responsibility then if this is the "model", then if that software alters the performance or creates lag on a customers device - they should replace it with one that performs the equal to where it was before. As a user i can't downgrade or return back to a previous version and i can't tell what the new version will run like unless i put it on the device to start with. If i was an iPhone 4 user for example and i upgrade to iOS 9 can i then get a bunch of lawyers together and sue apple for messing up my device. it's now 3 times slower than before?
I'm pretty sure if VW cheated the emissions test for example, then had to apply a fix to said cars, if that fix impacts the performance or MPG (battery) in a negative way, they would have to pay compensation!!!!!
Consumers, SHOULD have a choice, Apple could refuse support if the latest OS and patch is not applied, but as a consumer if i want iOS 7 back because it runs better on my device then i should be allowed. Or Apple can replace the device with a new one at their cost.
Interestingly enough, the day I wanted to rollback to 8.4.1 (two days ago when Apple was still signing it), the lag on my iPhone 5 (non S) went completely away.
Unfortunately the battery life is still pretty ****** and the battery display is somewhat broken. Phone shuts down when it's at 21%? And when I plug it in, it claims it still has 54%? Wut?
I should probably clean install 9.0.2 but I just don't find the time right now...
Unfortunately the battery life is still pretty ****** and the battery display is somewhat broken. Phone shuts down when it's at 21%? And when I plug it in, it claims it still has 54%? Wut?
I should probably clean install 9.0.2 but I just don't find the time right now...
It's information, just like many other articles about something happening or that have happened. Should only things that might happen be of interest, why wouldn't someone want to know that something actually has happened when it happens?
vertsix
macrumors 68020
Yeah, but I have never, ever, used such a poorly-performing version of iOS on any device. I'm not exaggerating, I really think that.
iOS 8.0 kept relatively the same performance as iOS 7.1.2 on my iPod touch 5th gen and my iPhone 5s. I thought it was a solid .x release.
But 9.0 is waaaay different compared to 8.4.1. Lag everywhere, unstable, and a release that's just not ready in my opinion. This is evident on all devices that I have and most of those I've tested at the Apple Store (4s, 6, 6 Plus, iPad Mini 3, 4, iPad Air, iPod touch 6th gen; however, the 5 and Air 2 weren't laggy from what I saw).
Until Apple fixes this, I won't upgrade to it. The new features aren't worth it if the phone performs terribly. 8.4.1 is fantastic in stability and performance.
garylapointe
macrumors 68000
I dunno, it's seems like the "6s is faster than the 6" type posts, which of course it's faster it's the new model (and Apple said it was faster), if it's slower it'd be news. Then we had the fingerprint scanner post saying that was faster, which also wasn't unexpected (it was news several weeks before and was already covered), the fact that these things were reported and turned out to be true doesn't seem like it's news...
An article on "Fingerprint scanner is SO fast it's problematic to read your lock screen alerts" makes sense, it's a somewhat unexpected side effect (although this occasionally happened on my 5s to me, so not super surprising).
Even an article two days before that said, "Remember, Apple usually stops signing in the next few days so rollback now" would have been helpful to some people (who were planning on rolling back but were waiting).
Just my two cents...
Gary
Many people have had those type of experiences if not worse with iOS 7.0 and/or iOS 8.0. Certainly people are having issues with iOS 9.0 as well, but overall there seems to be less, both in the sense of people having issues, the number of issues, and the severity of those issues.
dXTC
macrumors 68020
Whew! I managed to downgrade my phone to 8.4.1 in the final hours before this went down. Good thing too, because the iMac that holds my synced apps and backups is still on Snow Leopard (in order to allow XP via Boot Camp), and the last iTunes version Snow Leopard supports doesn't recognize 9.
The Quandry: I have a 5C (on ios 9) that my wife wants to upgrade to.... she's coming from an iPhone 4 (on ios 8.4.1)
So we can't do a restore from backup as they now can't be on the same version.... surely this is a common thing to want to do...? Poor show.
So we can't do a restore from backup as they now can't be on the same version.... surely this is a common thing to want to do...? Poor show.
Hi
Has anyone get a workaround for this yet?
I was literally 24 hours too late to downgrade from iOS 9 to iOS8. Now I'm stuck with my iPhone 5 that is incredibly laggy with iOS9 that worked brilliantly with iOS8.
Can I change the date on my Mac? Or anything?
I'm really annoyed at Apple as I feel they do this JUST to make me invest in the latest iPhone model to get my speeds back again.
Has anyone get a workaround for this yet?
I was literally 24 hours too late to downgrade from iOS 9 to iOS8. Now I'm stuck with my iPhone 5 that is incredibly laggy with iOS9 that worked brilliantly with iOS8.
Can I change the date on my Mac? Or anything?
I'm really annoyed at Apple as I feel they do this JUST to make me invest in the latest iPhone model to get my speeds back again.
There's no known way to downgrade. You can hope, that hackers will be able to find a way to downgrade, but it's very unlikely, because Apple hardened their security systems and there was no way to downgrade for a long time. You can downgrade, if you have iPhone 4S or iPad 2, to iOS 6. And only when hackers will jailbreak iOS 9. Any newer devices have to live with their current OS.
On a bright side, there are reports that iOS 9.1 has better performance, so may be you just have to wait for a few months.
It just feels wrong to have such a short time in which to determine whether a major system upgrade works well on an ios device. Do Android device owners face the same ultimatum? Fortunately I discovered in time that one of my important apps
broke under 9.0.1 (no sound) and was able to get back to 8.4.1 just under the wire. How about all those folks with iphones still on 7 who would like to upgrade to 8 now that it has reached its max development? They are out of luck. This behavior by Apple is enough to make me take a serious look at an Android for my next phone and tablet after being a lifelong Apple devotee!
broke under 9.0.1 (no sound) and was able to get back to 8.4.1 just under the wire. How about all those folks with iphones still on 7 who would like to upgrade to 8 now that it has reached its max development? They are out of luck. This behavior by Apple is enough to make me take a serious look at an Android for my next phone and tablet after being a lifelong Apple devotee!