Apple Not Fighting Royalty Increase for Songwriters That Spotify, Pandora, Google and Amazon Have Appealed

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    Spotify, Google, Pandora, and Amazon have all teamed up to appeal a ruling by the U.S. Copyright Royalty Board that will increase royalties paid to songwriters by 44 percent, reports Variety.

    In a joint statement, the companies, which all operate major streaming music services, said that the decision harms both music licensees and copyright owners.

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    Apple is not joining the other streaming music services and will not appeal the decision. According to Variety, songwriter organizations have been heavily praising Apple while condemning the other streaming services.

    David Israelite, CEO of the National Music Publishers' association, called the appeals from Spotify, Pandora, Google and Amazon "tech bullies who do not respect or value the songwriters who make their businesses possible."

    He also thanked Apple Music for not participating in the appeal and for "continuing to be a friend to songwriters."

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    I mean, it makes sense that Apple isn't going to do it. Them and Tidal (... I think? Correct me if I'm wrong) pays out the most for royalties.

    Anyway, I'm happy to see that Apple is on the better side of this situation.
     
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    You're wrong. Streaming services generally do not negotiate royalties directly with individual artists.
     
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    I’m sure this will get twisted up. For example, Apple knows the other services can’t grow as fast if they are paying more to artists so in the long run Apple will come out on top
     
  5. nzcatfood macrumors member

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    “the decision harms both music licensees and copyright owners.”

    What about the struggling artists who actually created the content?
     
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    Apple is smart in this.

    1. Let the others fight and if they win Apple benefits as well.

    2. By not going against the raise legally, they keep the relationship with artists and labels in good standing which could more than likely prove beneficial in the long run.

    Smart move...
     
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    One of the (many) reasons I left the glorious UI and social media connections of Spotify for Apple Music last year.
     
  9. CLS727 macrumors regular

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    Why throw more lawyers and money into the ring when their competitors will take care of it for them.
     
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    Yeah, they're a marketing company.
     
  11. Junior117 macrumors 6502

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    I didn't say they directly negotiate royalties with artists; I only said they pay out the most royalties (I didn't mention to who, though, but I assume it's to the music labels (Sony BMG, Universal Music, etc.)), though, if I'm wrong about that, then please correct me.

    Could you highlight where I was wrong so I have a better understanding of what you were talking about?
     
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    Napster pays the most, then Tidal, then Apple.
     
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    Yep!!!
     
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    Those are used to generate more money. The music industry is corrupted.
     
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    Smart move on Apple's part. Spotify makes their money only from music. Apple can afford a cut to keep up good relations with the industry.
     
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    Smart move by Apple. I’m sure they don’t mind if these companies win. But now they look like they support the artists over profits.

    Apple has always had a reputation of being on the side of the artist. Though many people here were against it.... this was one of the reasons they brought Jimmy Iovine onboard...... to facilitate better relationships with artists.
     
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    I didn't realize Napster still existed (let alone knew of the info you just mentioned).

    Well, thanks for letting me know. Much appreciated.
     
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    ...because Apple makes a tiny portion of its revenue from streaming music.
     
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    well sure. they have more money in the bank so they can afford to be generous. It's like Fox TV network keeping a show with borderline ratings (but very vocal fans on social media) because they have stacks of profit from American Idol to cover the losses.

    and it makes them look good in the eyes of the public
     
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    Fox is notorious for cancelling shows with small but dedicated followings. (Firefly the most notable, Brooklyn 9-9 the most recent.)
     
  21. McG2k1 macrumors regular

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    Good strategery. Let everyone else fight the battle, make it look like you are concerned about artists.
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    Honestly I can’t think of a single example from FOX that suppprts this. They’re notorious for the opposite in fact. If you want to have your show finish it’s run don’t sell it to FOX, History, or Travel!
     
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    Apple however did negotiate a rate that actually was higher. They did it to get the songs for free during the trial period. Ironically artists didn’t like that and now Apple pays artists even during the trial period.
     
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    What about LimeWire and Kazaa?


    Edit: Wow thought you were kidding. Didn’t know Napster’s streaming service existed!
     
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    Those are known to pay the most of them all. :cool:
     
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    Tidal commits fraud by falsifying streaming numbers and royalty payouts to Beyoncé, Jay-Z and Kanye West, though.
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    Last Man Standing, The Simpsons, Family Guy and American Idol were examples of this. ABC is the one notorious for canceling even promising shows with good-to-great ratings (see Reaper).
     

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