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How does service and support handle complaints of flabby, bloated bass; non-existent mids and shrill highs?

Chances are if someone has bought a set of Beats headphones they are the ones that complain that all headphones have no bass - so Beats addresses that for them.

Audio is a very personal thing, me I don't like emphasised bass so Beats are most likely not for me. At least if Apple are pushing Beats then the 14 day return policy might enable people to judge for themselves how good/bad they are.
 
Like PalindromeB0B noted, can you really call this a "merger"? Apple and Beats aren't merging into one company, Apple bought Beats.
 
I'm all for free speech and all that, but I still feel like we should be banning people who say positive things about Beats.
 
In B4 all of the Beats Haters!

This is good news only because Apple's support is uncanny.

On a more personal note, I'm deciding whether or not to wait for a new Apple inspired Beats update or to just go ahead and take the plunge and grab a model now.

The Bose in-ears I have now are great, but I wouldn't mind more bass, and to judge the headphone for myself instead of listening to the pure trash that people spout about headphones that that actually sound rather nice on display.

No offense intended, but it doesn't matter what you get or when you get it. You're obviously one of those people where "good enough is good enough"; you think your BOSE are great, so you're used to mediocre sound already & as such, Beats is perfect for you as well.
 
LOL@ old people claiming they know about sound when they can barely hear....always complaining of too much bass....
 
[...]they sounded like a pair of $10 bargain bin headphones. [...]
With statements like that you just lose all your credibility. Everyone who actually listened to those headphones knows that they most definitely do NOT sound like $10 cans. I don't like the sound of them either, but they just sound very pronounced on the low end. It's too much bass for my taste, but the bass that is there sounds pretty tight imo. It's not that muddy kind of sound that loses all clarity in the lower mids that cheap cans usually have. They still sound fairly transparent for the most part. I wouldn't buy them, especially not for the price, but I can perfectly imagine that there is music out there that sounds nice with these headphones.
 
I'm all for free speech and all that, but I still feel like we should be banning people who say positive things about Beats.

But the whole Beats conversation proves that the sheep are alive and well. If you mute the positive comments, the extremely intelligent self-thinking fanboys will cry.

Prior to Apple buying them, when it was just a rumor, read the comments. They were horrible and 'headphones for thugs.' Now that Apple owns them, NOTHING HAS CHANGED, but Beats are all of the sudden the greatest headphones to bless this earth.... They are getting swindled and pimped by a giant corporation and they still eat that $%#$% up
 
With statements like that you just lose all your credibility. Everyone who actually listened to those headphones knows that they most definitely do NOT sound like $10 cans. I don't like the sound of them either, but they just sound very pronounced on the low end. It's too much bass for my taste, but the bass that is there sounds pretty tight imo. It's not that muddy kind of sound that loses all clarity in the lower mids that cheap cans usually have. They still sound fairly transparent for the most part. I wouldn't buy them, especially not for the price, but I can perfectly imagine that there is music out there that sounds nice with these headphones.

Right.
 
All I ever read in these threads are comments from 'audiophiles' about how crap brands like Beats and Bose are, but I never see any suggestions for alternatives! So as a genuine question from a music-lover, what is it I should be buying?
 
Queue the "I'll take my Sennheiser headphones over crappy bass Beats anyway" comments. Hashtag, we don't care...Apple buying Beats doesn't mean you are now forced to buy Beats.
 
many people are not capable of identifying good frequency separation - this is true. in a similar way, not everyone can visually separate reds from greens. listening to these people talk about how strawberries are hard to find in a strawberry patch while discrediting those who can actually see the difference by saying 'to each their own' is somewhat frustrating.

so no - not everyone is an audiophile, but those who are speak up and get shot down. there's a huge difference between seeing how various smartphones fit into one's lifestyle - it takes usage, consideration, and a duration to form an opinion. with audio quality, it's different. you try a pair of headphones on at the store, and you immediately know its quality, as long as you can determine the audio's source isn't faulty. this is achieved by trying on the next pair of headphones from the same source. bam. you either CAN tell it sounds like ****, or you can't. those who can't, tend to buy fashionable headphones in lieu of ones that are UNANIMOUSLY determined to be of better quality, merely because it sounds better than what they're used to.

that's pretty much it. audiophiles aren't really speaking to preference. we know some people like a lot of bass, or lower highs, etc. the argument usually goose-chases around a fixed point - that being: sound quality is different from preference. and lots of uninformed (or 'colorblind') like to mash up the two.

Coming from someone who is colorblind this is an excellent and interesting point which I had not considered. I don't think there's much that can refute this.
 
Because Kilpsch doesn't make highly over priced garbage like Beats by Dre and audio is more important than image to Kilpsch.

Good for Kilpsch. They can just look at their garbage revenue for hiring incompetent marketing professionals and throw a parade for their subjectively superior audio.;)
 
Just teach them how to handle returns.
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What an incredibly stupid post. You haven't heard how awful Beats headphones are, but you call valid criticism from people who have "pure trash". Take off the fanboy goggles, fanboy. People with a brain despised the overpriced crap Beats was selling long before they got bought out by Apple. For a reason. That reason being they're overpriced crap.

May be crap to you but the millions of consumers that purchased them seem to think otherwise. Stop with the snotty opinions
 
All I ever read in these threads are comments from 'audiophiles' about how crap brands like Beats and Bose are, but I never see any suggestions for alternatives! So as a genuine question from a music-lover, what is it I should be buying?

This is my question as well, I'm going to get a new set of ear buds and want to know what ear buds really sounds good?:cool:

I don't like over ear or on ear headphones unless I'm at home. It just looks funny to me seeing headphones when just out and about.

Who has really good ear buds for the money???:cool:
 
I just tried a pair of 2-3 year old Beats Studios and they were absolutely horrendous! Without exaggeration, they sounded like a pair of $10 bargain bin headphones. I find they had way too much distortion and incredibly way too much bass.

From what I've heard, the newer editions of these headphones are supposedly much better, but I think I'll stay with my B&W P5!

lol. just so you know... the P5 is known for very rolled off high end frequencies, and a massive bump on the midrange, with very little bass extension.

not exactly a great benchmark
 
Let's ignore all the Beats-hate for a moment - i think this article is great news. People who own Beats headphones will now get Apple Support for them, that's fantastic and a nice move.

@ Beats headphones:
Got the Studio 2.0 as a present. They look fantastic, sound great and are quite durable, so i'm happy with them (although i wouldn't have bought them for 300$). But i convert all my music to 256 kbps because of storage reasons, so i might be one of the 0,1 % here who isn't an audiophile, but listens to music for some hours a day anyway.

I think we all should know by now that Apple bought Beats because of Dre and Iovine. As a side effect their high-priced, (imo) well-designed headphones just fit perfectly into the Apple store.
I personally don't see a big difference between the Beats stuff and original Apple accessories like headphones, speakers and cases.


All I ever read in these threads are comments from 'audiophiles' about how crap brands like Beats and Bose are, but I never see any suggestions for alternatives! So as a genuine question from a music-lover, what is it I should be buying?

Yeah, that's the problem here on MR. Here are only Aviciis, Mick Jaggers, Sven Väths, Calvin Harris'es and David Guettas who just need the best headphones possible for producing music.

But no one here seems to be a normal guy, who likes to listen to his music on his way to work and doesn't like to spend 500$ on headphones.
In this case, good audio quality would be just as important as durability, portability and design (design as least for us apple-users). Good luck for finding some nice headphones!
 
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Chances are if someone has bought a set of Beats headphones they are the ones that complain that all headphones have no bass - so Beats addresses that for them.

Audio is a very personal thing, me I don't like emphasised bass so Beats are most likely not for me. At least if Apple are pushing Beats then the 14 day return policy might enable people to judge for themselves how good/bad they are.

If at least Beats headphones produced good quality bass... it's not even the case. They're average at best at what they're supposed to do the best. Mid and High range frequencies? Don't even mention it...
 
With statements like that you just lose all your credibility. Everyone who actually listened to those headphones knows that they most definitely do NOT sound like $10 cans. I don't like the sound of them either, but they just sound very pronounced on the low end. It's too much bass for my taste, but the bass that is there sounds pretty tight imo. It's not that muddy kind of sound that loses all clarity in the lower mids that cheap cans usually have. They still sound fairly transparent for the most part. I wouldn't buy them, especially not for the price, but I can perfectly imagine that there is music out there that sounds nice with these headphones.

Nope.
With statements like that you lose credibility with me! =P
I have many sets of headphones... my audio-technica's are most like Beats, as far as bass. Except, they have a tight bass.. that immediately drops off.. you hear the punch, then it gets out of the way of the next sound. Whereas Beats has that lingering after bass hit rattle, like low end 15" car speakers... where it just muddies & stomps on the other sounds. They don't have "more" bass than my cans, just less accurate.
 
$250 headphones are better than free pack in headphones?

Wow, you should do the advertising campaign for Beats, Einstein. :rolleyes::rolleyes:


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Point is consumers looking to get something better than whats in the box go for stylish brand names that they see people wearing and thats why Beats (and Bose) are successful. They look gd and sound a lot better than what you were given.

They may not be the best but if the products were that terrible they wouldn't be as successful as they are. Apple products aren't the best in terms of raw functionality. But for a lot of people they're more than good enough to warrant their premium.

Try not to hurt yourself from your pretentious eye rolling.
 
All I ever read in these threads are comments from 'audiophiles' about how crap brands like Beats and Bose are, but I never see any suggestions for alternatives! So as a genuine question from a music-lover, what is it I should be buying?

Well I think it's not that Beats are bad for what they are , but in-comparsion to many others they are overpriced and not the greatest. Thing is it depends what you want headphones for, if your a DJ, or a studio engineer or just an average guy. This is pretty good guide..http://www.sonicsense.com/blog/category/headphone-shootouts/headphone-comparisons-by-manufacturer/

For me personally Beats are a consumer headphones that are "enhanced" i.e. they use EQ and phase to tweak the sound, resulting in an inaccurate coloured sound this causes unnatural and at times un-balanced frequency response IE really bright or boomy, muddy etc depending not he music played. But some like that kind of thing, much the same as hifi speakers. Personally they sound awful, so boomy & muddy , the track is obviously not mixed that way, but if people like the bass to swamp the sound and don't mind looking like a poser then..Beats is it.

If you want headphones we use in the studio AKG 701's or 702's, or Sennhieser HD600, depending if you want open back or closed (for studio) . Thats why to most, the consumer tweaked headphones are just way over the top, also I think they can get away with a cheaper circuitry as they aren't design to be natural or transparent.
IMHO..
FWIW I have the AKG 702's, awesome set of phones but not really made for a bus or train journey :)
 
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