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I've run my life through Apple's other (fairly open) platform, MacOS, for years now and nothing bad has come of it. Maybe your problems are your own and most people don't need coddling.
You are lucky your family members, parents, grandparents, etc are so tech savvy that they all know how to avoid malware and scammers taking over their machines. Not everyone is so lucky. As a former IT manager, I can tell you even tech savvy colleagues would end up with infected machines, again and again. Mac OS is not lucrative enough to write malware for, but iOS certainly is. Get ready for App Store clones titled Appp Store and APP ST0RE with the same icon as the official store, haha. Even if they only fool 0.01%, this is a huge number of people.
 
Name one store that requires you to buy the building that it operates out of before you can shop there.
Not quite the same extent as buying the building, but I have to pay a membership to shop at Costco. I have to pay Costco...so I can have the ability spend my money at Costco. While not as steep as having to buy an iPhone to use the App Store...that's still a barrier to entry. I wonder if the EU has a problem with that not being "fair" since they have stores over there 🤔
 
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You are lucky your family members, parents, grandparents, etc are so tech savvy that they all know how to avoid malware and scammers taking over their machines. Not everyone is so lucky. As a former IT manager, I can tell you even tech savvy colleagues would end up with infected machines, again and again. Mac OS is not lucrative enough to write malware for, but iOS certainly is. Get ready for App Store clones titled Appp Store and APP ST0RE with the same icon as the official store, haha. Even if they only fool 0.01%, this is a huge number of people.
They're not that tech savvy, but they've still been fine. Even in your proposed hellish future, you'd still have to install those app stores first, at which point you get the big scary warning. And it's not like scam apps haven't made their way into the App Store before. At some point people need to take even the slightest modicum of responsibility — just like people know not to enter their credit card details into every text box they see on the internet, they can learn to not install every app or app store they come across (something that's been true even before this change).
 
They're not that tech savvy, but they've still been fine. Even in your proposed hellish future, you'd still have to install those app stores first, at which point you get the big scary warning. And it's not like scam apps haven't made their way into the App Store before. At some point people need to take even the slightest modicum of responsibility — just like people know not to enter their credit card details into every text box they see on the internet, they can learn to not install every app or app store they come across (something that's been true even before this change).
I agree, people do need to take responsibility. But my parents are still idiots with their tech, no matter how many times I try to teach them to ignore the spam, and whatever trouble they get into is my mess to clean up, lol. Watch some ScammerPayback videos of the old people getting scammed, the scammer walks them through everything over the phone, including installing remote control software and clicking through every big scary warning that may pop up.
 
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This is going to come across a little stern, but, my point is not to chide you: Your unwillingness to take responsibility for your own security and instead putting it in the hands of Apple is not anyone else's problem but your own. I'm glad it worked for you, genuinely, but it was built on an unsustainable foundation that was bound to be challenged and changed at some point, either by outside legislative actions, or Apple deciding its priorities were different. Your stress and consternation is the result of ceding the control you should never have given up.

I outsource security in my daily life too, leaving it up to the government and the police to create a safe place to live. I don't see why computers should be different.

Convencience is the main reason I became an Apple customer and continue to be so. Saving money or having choice wasn't one of them. One of the things I love about the Apple world is you can very often throw money at the problem to solve it.

But it's not privacy and security I'm concerned about.

It will be the slow death of Safari on Mac since so many web sites will stop supporting Safari since the main reason they supported it was because of Safari on the iPhone.

I will also see more and more banks here in Norway stop supporting Apple Pay. Why? Because Apple Pay's biggest competitor is owned by all the banks and they now get access to the NFC and can extend their own payment solution to the iPhone for use in stores. This was one way to get banks to loose. Now they'll win again.

We will get several app stores and I can't rely one place to get all the software for iOS with the same account, the same rules and a store owner who treats developers as second class citizens.
 
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Most people could care less about side loading and by most I mean as close to 100% as one can get without being at 100%. The zealots will do something with their side loads and rest of us will carry on.
 
I've run my life through Apple's other (fairly open) platform, MacOS, for years now and nothing bad has come of it. Maybe your problems are your own and most people don't need coddling.

Of course there as been bad things with Macs.

One thing is that the Mac App Store doesn't have a monopoly on applications for the Mac. You have to actually search the Internet and often go to web sites to create accounts so you can download stuff, enter credit card info yet again, etc.

It's just so more convenient to just have one store for everything.
 
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Of course there as been bad things with Macs.
That's not what I said, but okay. I said I've had nothing bad come of it. There have also been bad things on iOS, locked down as it is, but apparently that's fine?

One thing is that the Mac App Store doesn't have a monopoly on applications for the Mac. You have to actually search the Internet and often go to web sites to create accounts so you can download stuff, enter credit card info yet again, etc.
You're framing this as a negative, but it's not. I use a bunch of apps on my Mac that Apple would never allow in the App Store, and buying things on the internet in 2024 is hardly the nightmare you make it out to be. But if you're really so desperately afraid of the internet, that's also okay, no one is forcing you to use this feature.

It's just so more convenient to just have one store for everything.
Sure, and if all I cared about was convenience then that might be a valid argument. But sometimes I'm willing to sacrifice some convenience to, say, get functionality that Apple doesn't want me to have. I have plenty of Mac apps that Apple would never let in the Mac App Store, and yet I get good use out of them every day. Or maybe software is on sale direct from the dev but not in the App Store. Saving a few bucks might be worth that tradeoff. You might value convenience over everything else, but we don't all have the same priorities and preferences.
 
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Incredible to think that, without a nudge from the EU, none of what we are witnessing today would have happened and Apple would continue to frame it all in a negative light, about how dangerous it all was.

Regardless of what side of the fence you’re on, it shows how much showmanship there is in their arguments and integrity.
It doesn’t mean that criminals will just sit back and not try to take a stab at phishing or scamming someone , now that it has become infinitely easier.
 
My FoodSaver vacuum sealer came with all sorts of handouts inside the box directing me to their website to order replacement bags.
That's actually a really good point. Now that I think of it, a bunch of my kitchen appliances came with all sorts of marketing materials etc directing me to their website to get attachments, refills, accessories, etc.
 
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I've run my life through Apple's other (fairly open) platform, MacOS, for years now and nothing bad has come of it. Maybe your problems are your own and most people don't need coddling.
Same here, at work and at home … through MacOS and was on it already before the Mac became hackable once connected to the internet. So far, so good … despite years of „sideloading“ apps onto my Macs.
 
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Apart from sideloading (which most users won't do) nothing else weakens security or privacy. And even for that you should blame Apple first for being so audacious in their position that they, gatekeepers and direct competitors of Spotify & Netflix, did not even allow them to hint that users can subscribe outside of App Store!!
Eh, alternate web browser engines are always a huge attack vector. I won’t give it a year before someone is found doing nefarious things to Chrome when they update it to use the Blink engine.

But I agree that the security implications were blown way out of proportion by Apple to retain as much control as possible (and I don’t really blame them).
 
Language on these articles needs to be specific. For example, NFC write access was possible since the iPhone 6S to third parties... not for NFC payments, but capability to write to tags. See Libre sensors, and amiibos.
 
This is going to come across a little stern, but, my point is not to chide you: Your unwillingness to take responsibility for your own security and instead putting it in the hands of Apple is not anyone else's problem but your own. I'm glad it worked for you, genuinely, but it was built on an unsustainable foundation that was bound to be challenged and changed at some point, either by outside legislative actions, or Apple deciding its priorities were different. Your stress and consternation is the result of ceding the control you should never have given up.
So if someone bought a house in a gated community, and then one day the city took down the gates, you would give that person this same lecture?
 
Of course there as been bad things with Macs.

One thing is that the Mac App Store doesn't have a monopoly on applications for the Mac. You have to actually search the Internet and often go to web sites to create accounts so you can download stuff, enter credit card info yet again, etc.

It's just so more convenient to just have one store for everything.
One ring to rule them all and in the darkness bind them.
 
So as long as the app is available in the EU, can the requested feature be used worldwide?
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Good question. Why are they offering API requests for EU only on this?

Surely devs outside the EU have many (likely uncontroversial) things they'd like access to for these...?
 
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